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Old Jul 5, 2019 | 04:08 PM
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The mbraceŽ Secure package

In a month, I will have used up my mbrace Secure Package. I received a letter that it will be $200.00 to continue for a year. I have not used it in the six months it was free and not sure it is worth it. Has anyone here used it and/or renewed the subscription? Thanks
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Old Jul 5, 2019 | 07:26 PM
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I have never used it, but I keep it - seems like a pretty small price to pay for another communication channel in case of emergency. I still think it's funny to hear the scratchy voice coming out of some tiny speaker in the dash when you press the button, but I keep it nonetheless.
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Old Jul 6, 2019 | 07:05 AM
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It is like insurance. It is good to have and never use.
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Old Jul 6, 2019 | 07:22 AM
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Good point, thanks for pointing it out.
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Old Jul 6, 2019 | 07:44 AM
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I've occasionally wondered about the "optics" of this.

Let's say you don't subscribe and have an accident and need help. You push the button anyway, and mBrace will answer (cause it's still connected).

I have a difficult time believing they will not help you, because you are not a paid customer. Heaven forbid a seriously injured person dies resulting from refused service. Let's say you sell the car on and the next owner doesn't know how the system works, has an accident and pushes the button..........

I'm not suggesting that you be a piker and not pay for the service and expect it anyways. But eventually someone is bound to report failure to provide aid to a local TV station, which bounces the resulting story to one of the networks, the ambulance chasers form a line on the right, etc. I wouldn't want to be the spokesperson for an auto company so dedicated to auto safety, yet not there when you need it the most....

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Old Jul 6, 2019 | 08:08 AM
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DFW, I think OnStar set precedents in this situation several years ago - they would dispatch and consider the call a reconection for service and send an invoice after the fact. Seems like a reasonable approach to me - not sure if they still handle it this way.
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Old Jul 6, 2019 | 10:15 AM
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I pay for the service on both my wife's SLK and my E Class. I whole heartedly agree with the comment above, have it, hope not to use it. In the event an accident occurs and the driver loses consciousness, the car will call out automatically for help.
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Old Jul 6, 2019 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Lanzz
DFW, I think OnStar set precedents in this situation several years ago - they would dispatch and consider the call a reconection for service and send an invoice after the fact. Seems like a reasonable approach to me - not sure if they still handle it this way.
That makes sense to me. Meanwhile, you've gone 4, maybe 5 years without the service, so you have well saved up for the usage.
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Old Jul 7, 2019 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Cambridgehank
In a month, I will have used up my mbrace Secure Package. I received a letter that it will be $200.00 to continue for a year. I have not used it in the six months it was free and not sure it is worth it. Has anyone here used it and/or renewed the subscription? Thanks
How WONDERFUL to have never needed to use it. But if it was needed, how sad it would be to not have it available. Spend the $200 and may you never ever have to use it.
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Old Jul 8, 2019 | 11:51 AM
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Yes, it's insurance. I pay about $600 per year to insure my vehicle against a total loss, and lots of other things that will probably never happen. Charging $200 per year for the ability to automatically (almost certainly never) make a phone call is egregious. BMW provides this free for 4 years or more. If you pay it, you are voting for them to continue charging this ridiculous fee.
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Old Jul 8, 2019 | 11:55 AM
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Yes, it's insurance. I pay about $600 per year to insure my vehicle against a total loss, and lots of other things that will probably never happen. Charging $200 per year for the ability to automatically (almost certainly never) make a phone call is egregious. BMW provides this free for 4 years or more. If you pay it, you are voting for them to continue charging this ridiculous fee.
Call it what you want, but I wouldn't be without it. A good friend of mine was in a bad accident in his Benz. He was knocked out in the woods on a rural road in a remote area. If it weren't for this service, emergency services would not have been dispatched to his precise location, saving his life. Whether BMW provides this for free is not the point. My life and the lives of my loved ones are well worth $200/year.
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Old Jul 8, 2019 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by rbrylaw
Call it what you want, but I wouldn't be without it. A good friend of mine was in a bad accident in his Benz. He was knocked out in the woods on a rural road in a remote area. If it weren't for this service, emergency services would not have been dispatched to his precise location, saving his life. Whether BMW provides this for free is not the point. My life and the lives of my loved ones are well worth $200/year.
And that's not my point. If it was a million dollars a year would you pay it? Are the lives of you and your loved ones worth that much?
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Old Jul 8, 2019 | 12:09 PM
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And that's not my point. If it was a million dollars a year would you pay it? Are the lives of you and your loved ones worth that much?
That's not an even rational analogy. IT DOESN'T COST A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. Cambrideghank asked if anyone's used or renewed it.

I provided a response that I do pay for the service and "personally" think it's worth the expense. I honestly don't care if you feel it's a reasonable expense or not. At least use rational analogies if you don't feel it's a worthy cost.
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Old Jul 8, 2019 | 02:19 PM
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I promise this will be my last response to this thread. Unless rbrylaw says something else that annoys me.

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That's not an even rational analogy. IT DOESN'T COST A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.
It is a rational analogy. You stated your reason for paying for it was "My life and the lives of my loved ones are well worth $200/year", which kinda implies that the service is worth as much as your life, which it clearly is not.


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Cambrideghank asked if anyone's used or renewed it. I provided a response that I do pay for the service and "personally" think it's worth the expense.
Right. And I provided my rationale for not buying it, which you attempted to invalidate, provoking a response from me.

Also, is it not a bit immoral for a car that is fully capable of calling for help to not do it because I refuse to submit to Mercedes penny pinching? If the car comes with the ability, it should do so, period. What about the less fortunate guy that buys my car 15 years from now that can't afford to pay the $200? Should he bleed to death because Mercedes and Verizon didn't get their 200 bucks?

Any cell phone can be used to call 911, regardless of payment status. Because it's the right thing to do. Mercedes prices the service at this level because they have coldly calculated that an adequate percentage of buyers will not want to regret bleeding to death for not paying it.
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Old Jul 8, 2019 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by fvc
I promise this will be my last response to this thread. Unless rbrylaw says something else that annoys me.


It is a rational analogy. You stated your reason for paying for it was "My life and the lives of my loved ones are well worth $200/year", which kinda implies that the service is worth as much as your life, which it clearly is not.



Right. And I provided my rationale for not buying it, which you attempted to invalidate, provoking a response from me.

Also, is it not a bit immoral for a car that is fully capable of calling for help to not do it because I refuse to submit to Mercedes penny pinching? If the car comes with the ability, it should do so, period. What about the less fortunate guy that buys my car 15 years from now that can't afford to pay the $200? Should he bleed to death because Mercedes and Verizon didn't get their 200 bucks?

Any cell phone can be used to call 911, regardless of payment status. Because it's the right thing to do. Mercedes prices the service at this level because they have coldly calculated that an adequate percentage of buyers will not want to regret bleeding to death for not paying it.
Good for you. You got the last word. I'm not going to debate this with you.
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Old Jul 8, 2019 | 04:02 PM
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My 2001 Mercedes is now 18 years old. I did not renew the Teleaid (as called at that time) "insurance." That's $3400 I saved, which more than covered the Tax, Title and License I paid for the new E350.

Should I have an injury accident and can't get to my cellphone, I will push the call button and gladly pay the $200 renewal. If they refuse to help, I'll ask my attorney to discover why not.

If MB-USA had any marketing sense, they would price this at $50 a year, and have 800% more takers, doubling their revenue. But fast nickels vs slow dimes is not the Mercedes way.

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Old Jul 9, 2019 | 12:56 PM
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Just called to not renew after my 1 year free service. They offered to up the renewal to 18 months for same $200 cost. I take one long trip a year to snow bird country and will renew for $20 a month for the 2 months that I feel will be my need for this service.
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Old Jul 9, 2019 | 11:36 PM
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My 2001 Mercedes is now 18 years old. I did not renew the Teleaid (as called at that time) "insurance." That's $3400 I saved, which more than covered the Tax, Title and License I paid for the new E350.

Should I have an injury accident and can't get to my cellphone, I will push the call button and gladly pay the $200 renewal. If they refuse to help, I'll ask my attorney to discover why not.

If MB-USA had any marketing sense, they would price this at $50 a year, and have 800% more takers, doubling their revenue. But fast nickels vs slow dimes is not the Mercedes way.
Unless you updated the unit, it was dead when the switch from analog to digital happened anyhow.

It's 10 years for emergency calls now
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Old Jul 10, 2019 | 06:42 AM
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I pay for the service on both my wife's SLK and my E Class. I whole heartedly agree with the comment above, have it, hope not to use it. In the event an accident occurs and the driver loses consciousness, the car will call out automatically for help.
Same here...paid for service on both cars for years and have never used it.
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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 10:56 AM
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Just called to not renew after my 1 year free service. They offered to up the renewal to 18 months for same $200 cost. I take one long trip a year to snow bird country and will renew for $20 a month for the 2 months that I feel will be my need for this service.
Wait. Did you say you called to not renew? Does this imply an automatic renewal? Do they have your cc on file?
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Old Jul 12, 2019 | 12:03 PM
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The letter I received says "the payment method we have on file will be used". I do not remember if I gave my CC to them it was the free trial period of 6 months. I think I refused to give CC as I was not paying at that time and the letter I received looks like a stock letter.
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I look at it as any insurance -hope you never need it - but good to have if you do. Never signed up before but we are getting older and my husband was hit by a dump truck with a trailer a few years back in his GLK at an off hour time and in retrospect would have appreciated having this. I got a discount for a multi-year plan and if I decide we don’t want or need will cancel and it’s prorated refund.
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I got a discount for a multi-year plan and if I decide we don’t want or need will cancel and it’s prorated refund.
my subscription going to expired next month Feb. i dont really care about this accident craps, i just want it to lock/unlock the car which i use it sometime.
what is the multi-year plan costs?
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I have a 2015 S Class and I forget what I pay or what it is called (I think it is called Embrace) but I can press a button and ask MB to send directions to may car. I know I can do it using my phone but I like the convenience of calling MB. This is the same button I call in a emergency. Also I think this service also helps in the event my car is stolen and I can call for Roadside. I agree with Lanzz it is worth the money.
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Old Feb 24, 2021 | 08:36 AM
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my subscription going to expired next month Feb. i dont really care about this accident craps, i just want it to lock/unlock the car which i use it sometime.
what is the multi-year plan costs?
Did you figure out the renewal price yet? I am in the same boat and am not able to find how much it would cost to renew for the basic package.
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