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Old Feb 13, 2021 | 07:43 PM
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I disagree with you: there is more power drain when the doors are not locked. When locked many functions go into "sleep mode".

As to problems: Very few of us post that we "have no problems": what you get on a forum are people seeking help with their cars.

The one exception: poor ride: but almost 100% of those with a complaint do not have standard wheels. I have standard wheels with RF and I have no problems with the ride.
Can you name one function that only goes into sleep mode when the car is locked?
I have been on a bmw forum for 5 years. In 2 days I saw more instances of cars being towed, or sitting for lack of parts. Or cars having to be jumped after 3 or 4 days and the dealer can’t figure out what’s wrong. I’m also on an Acura MDX forum. Nothing like what I’ve seen on here. And yet, I still want one.
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Old Feb 13, 2021 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Elvisfan0108
Can you name one function that only goes into sleep mode when the car is locked?
I have been on a bmw forum for 5 years. In 2 days I saw more instances of cars being towed, or sitting for lack of parts. Or cars having to be jumped after 3 or 4 days and the dealer can’t figure out what’s wrong. I’m also on an Acura MDX forum. Nothing like what I’ve seen on here. And yet, I still want one.
There are threads on this subject. To satisfy yourself I suggest you check them out.

Hope this helps
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Old Feb 13, 2021 | 09:49 PM
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There are threads on this subject. To satisfy yourself I suggest you check them out.

Hope this helps
I looked up some things I found some test that talks about locking the car before testing the current draw. Nothing that specifically states that a car draws more power when unlocked than locked. Besides, I think the people with problems may be keeping their FOBs too close to the car.
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Old Feb 13, 2021 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Elvisfan0108
I looked up some things I found some test that talks about locking the car before testing the current draw. Nothing that specifically states that a car draws more power when unlocked than locked. Besides, I think the people with problems may be keeping their FOBs too close to the car.
Lowering the battery drain by locking the car is a myth. So is keeping the fob away from the car. 213 fobs timeout in a couple of minutes for security and there is no drain until you wake them with a slight movement, or the car wakes them when you press the start button. After 2 years, the key that spends every night in the car and the key that's in a drawer and is never used have essentially the same battery condition.
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Old Feb 13, 2021 | 11:50 PM
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CTEK chargers are far more advanced, especially when it comes to charging AGM batteries. That charger doesn't even seem to have an AGM mode. The voltage and current profiles that the CTEK applies to an AGM battery are different than it uses for a flooded battery. Failure to do so will affect battery life. The CTEK is temperature compensated, since an AGM battery is sensitive to the voltage applied to it when it's cold. Again, failure to take this into account can shorten life. The CTEK has a sophisticated, 8-phase charge cycle that gets the battery to maximum charge quickly and safely. Going with a cheap charger for an AGM battery is false economy.
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Old Feb 14, 2021 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Elvisfan0108
Can you name one function that only goes into sleep mode when the car is locked?
I have been on a bmw forum for 5 years. In 2 days I saw more instances of cars being towed, or sitting for lack of parts. Or cars having to be jumped after 3 or 4 days and the dealer can’t figure out what’s wrong. I’m also on an Acura MDX forum. Nothing like what I’ve seen on here. And yet, I still want one.
When locking the car I always do a double tap. That deactivates keyless-go and its battery drain.

I lock the car whenever I'm not in it - even in my garage. If you've ever sustained a burglary or home invasion, you'll understand.
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Old Feb 14, 2021 | 10:43 AM
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When locking the car I always do a double tap. That deactivates keyless-go and its battery drain.

I lock the car whenever I'm not in it - even in my garage. If you've ever sustained a burglary or home invasion, you'll understand.
Doing the double tap all the time defeats the purpose of keyless go. But that’s up to you.
As far as locking the car in the garage. I don’t keep anything valuable in the car.
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Old Feb 14, 2021 | 12:22 PM
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Correction - the double tap deactivates the keyless-go fob and its battery drain. Pressing any button on the fob reactivates it. The main advantage of deactivating the keyless-go fob is that the vehicle cannot be unlocked/opened by touching the door handle even when the fob is within range. Everywhere within my house is within fob range when the car is parked in my garage. I'd hate to wake up one morning to find that the car was stolen from my garage because the fob granted access. BTW I much preferred the early 2000 keyless-go that used a credit card type fob that was much easier to leave in one's pocket than the bulky fob of today..
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Old Feb 14, 2021 | 12:24 PM
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I have been having problems with my E class.
for the past month there has been a parasitic drain it has been in and out of the dealership but it still keeps draining and its unable to start.
Its temperamental and happens at random times. I have tried checking how much power fuses are drawing and all of them seem okay.
has anyone got any suggestions?
Where is the car parked in comparison to where the key is kept. Try double clicking the lock button on the key to disable the keyless go feature. If the key is too close to the car, the car will constantly try to connect to the key which will eventually drain the battery
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Old Feb 14, 2021 | 12:34 PM
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Correction - the double tap deactivates the keyless-go fob and its battery drain. Pressing any button on the fob reactivates it. The main advantage of deactivating the keyless-go fob is that the vehicle cannot be unlocked/opened by touching the door handle even when the fob is within range. Everywhere within my house is within fob range when the car is parked in my garage. I'd hate to wake up one morning to find that the car was stolen from my garage because the fob granted access. BTW I much preferred the early 2000 keyless-go that used a credit card type fob that was much easier to leave in one's pocket than the bulky fob of today..
1. After a couple of minutes, a key times out and will not allow the car to be opened or started until you pick up the key again and move it.
2. For this reason, not only is it secure but it also doesn't drain the fob battery.

Try it. Leave the key in your house after just locking the door and not deactivating it. 20 minutes later, see if the door will open. Then go back, lift the fob, set it back down and verify the door now opens.

Your ritual doesn't hurt anything, but is unnecessary with the latest fob design.
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Old Feb 14, 2021 | 12:37 PM
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Where is the car parked in comparison to where the key is kept. Try double clicking the lock button on the key to disable the keyless go feature. If the key is too close to the car, the car will constantly try to connect to the key which will eventually drain the battery
Wrong for the 213. It used to work that way, but our keys go to sleep if they are sitting still.
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Old Feb 14, 2021 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by whoover
1. After a couple of minutes, a key times out and will not allow the car to be opened or started until you pick up the key again and move it.
2. For this reason, not only is it secure but it also doesn't drain the fob battery.

Try it. Leave the key in your house after just locking the door and not deactivating it. 20 minutes later, see if the door will open. Then go back, lift the fob, set it back down and verify the door now opens.

Your ritual doesn't hurt anything, but is unnecessary with the latest fob design.
My fob is in motion 19 hours a day and within range of the car. Your solution works for those who are more sedentary or do not keep the fob on their person.
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Old Feb 14, 2021 | 02:01 PM
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My fob is in motion 19 hours a day and within range of the car. Your solution works for those who are more sedentary or do not keep the fob on their person.
Yep, if you're carrying it around with you in the house, it won't sleep.
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Old Feb 14, 2021 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ua549
Correction - the double tap deactivates the keyless-go fob and its battery drain. Pressing any button on the fob reactivates it. The main advantage of deactivating the keyless-go fob is that the vehicle cannot be unlocked/opened by touching the door handle even when the fob is within range. Everywhere within my house is within fob range when the car is parked in my garage. I'd hate to wake up one morning to find that the car was stolen from my garage because the fob granted access. BTW I much preferred the early 2000 keyless-go that used a credit card type fob that was much easier to leave in one's pocket than the bulky fob of today..
Besides the key fob going to sleep if not in motion, keyless go only works within a few inches of the door. In other words, if you are inside your house and near the garage door, someone else can not unlock your door. There is a difference between the range of the buttons and the keyless go. With your fob inside your house, someone will not be able to start your car. Unless of course they have one of those devices that increases the range of the fob. But, that’s a different discussion.
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Originally Posted by Elvisfan0108
Besides the key fob going to sleep if not in motion, keyless go only works within a few inches of the door. In other words, if you are inside your house and near the garage door, someone else can not unlock your door. There is a difference between the range of the buttons and the keyless go. With your fob inside your house, someone will not be able to start your car. Unless of course they have one of those devices that increases the range of the fob. But, that’s a different discussion.
Actually my car starts with the fob 8' away from the car. I just tried it and measured the distance. At 9' the ignition comes on but with a message to put the fob in the console slot.
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Old Feb 14, 2021 | 02:58 PM
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Actually my car starts with the fob 8' away from the car. I just tried it and measured the distance. At 9' the ignition comes on but with a message to put the fob in the console slot.
Than Mercedes does everything differently. Both of my cars won’t start if the key is not on me or in the car. You could start the car and drive away and not realize you don’t have the key. I’ve had to go back to get the key several times. If you start the car than drive away, does it warn you?
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I have not tried it, but there should be a no key detected message on the cluster. I know that if the car is started then the key removed, one cannot shift the transmission. From outside with the fob I could lock my BMW with the engine running, but I can't do it in the W213. Now I have to use remote start to pre-cool the car.
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Watch this,could be a lot of people problems.
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Old Feb 15, 2021 | 09:29 AM
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https://youtu.be/K0dXKmddaCw

Watch this,could be a lot of people problems.

MANY, MANY THANKS for posting!

This is a fantastic video.

As in the video, while the battery in my car has not gone dead, I have been replacing the battery in my smart key every couple of months: now I know why.

Great Video!
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So I just double clicked my key to lock - as the video suggested to turn off the "hand shaking" feature.

I then went to my car, with the key in hand, touched the door handle and the car unlocked.

From the video I thought that after double locking the door touching feature to unlock was disabled?

Just went back to the video: clearly after double clicking the key, the smart key feature, touching the handle was disabled. On my car that feature still works.

Am I missing something?

What did I do wrong?

Thanks.

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Follow up:

I have two keys both in range of my E450. If I double click, the smart feature was not disabled.

But if I moved key #2 out of range, and then double clicked the key #1, next to the car, the smart feature for that key #1 was disabled.

However, with the smart feature "disabled" by key #1, when I went to the car with Key #2, the smart feature was not disabled.

My conclusion: to disable the smart key feature and put your car to sleep, both keys must be out of range when you double click.

In the video, with both keys within range, double clicking would not have disable the smart key feature.

But if you are in parking lot, double clicking your key would disable the smart key feature, assuming your second key is not in the car!
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Second Follow up:

As I posted, if you disable smart key with key #1, the smart key function will not work with key #1, but will work with key #2.

If it works with key #2, what will prevent the car attempting to "hand shake" with other smart keys as in a parking lot?

Here is another video on the subject:

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It was always common sense to me to keep the smart key away from the car when not in use. Never an issue with car battery or fob batteries.
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This is a fantastic video.

As in the video, while the battery in my car has not gone dead, I have been replacing the battery in my smart key every couple of months: now I know why.

Great Video!
The car should tell you when the fob battery needs to be replaced.
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The car should tell you when the fob battery needs to be replaced.
It does: a message appears on the screen in front of the steering wheel.
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