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Old Nov 16, 2021 | 08:23 PM
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Strange I notice a lot of dealers are not including the Brake flush with service B?

Instead they are charging extra for the Brake Flush? Like $220.00 extra. I thought the Brake Flush was suppose to be included with Service B. As it stands Service B is nearly $540.00 at my dealer and the main things are changing the oil and the oil filter and the cabin filter and checking and topping off fluids. Seems like a lot, then you tack on another $220 for the brake flush and you have a 800 bill after tax just for a Service B. Getting really tempting to try and find a good Indy place for service. Probably about half that price.
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Old Nov 17, 2021 | 05:51 AM
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What do they charge for A service? which is a B service less brake fluid change
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Old Nov 17, 2021 | 08:01 AM
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At my dealer the "A" service is $229

The "B" service is the "A" plus cabin filter, brake flush and engine filter.

Here is a way around: Tell them to do the "A" service and then change cabin and air filter and do a brake flush.

Or better yet: tell them to do an oil change, cabin and air filter change and brake flush!

Has anyone priced out an oil change alone, instead of the "A" service at the dealer?




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Old Nov 17, 2021 | 08:34 AM
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A and B services are done on time or mileage and, therefore, because brake fluid is an every 24 months job, this is a separate maintenance task from your A and B and might be done out of sync. This happened to me as my B was done at 20 months due to mileage and i then had the brake fluid changed at 24 months. Hope this makes sense?
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Old Nov 17, 2021 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Bfgslkman
A and B services are done on time or mileage and, therefore, because brake fluid is an every 24 months job, this is a separate maintenance task from your A and B and might be done out of sync. This happened to me as my B was done at 20 months due to mileage and i then had the brake fluid changed at 24 months. Hope this makes sense?
No I am sorry, this doesn't make sense at all.

The "B" service specifically includes the brake service.

see: https://www.mbusa.com/en/owners/service-maintenance?




Again has anyone tried to price out separately:
  • Oil and filter change
  • Air and cabin filter change
  • Brake fluid change

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Old Nov 17, 2021 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by JTK44
No I am sorry, this doesn't make sense at all.

The "B" service specifically includes the brake service.

see: https://www.mbusa.com/en/owners/service-maintenance?




Again has anyone tried to price out separately:
  • Oil and filter change
  • Air and cabin filter change
  • Brake fluid change
Maybe it’s done differently in Germany?
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Old Nov 17, 2021 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Elvisfan0108
Maybe it’s done differently in Germany?
Good point!

I did not see that the writer is in Germany.

Here in the US the "B" service does include brake service
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Old Nov 17, 2021 | 12:23 PM
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It's crazy though that they are now charging more money to do the brake flush after service B which service B should include the brake flush. There is probably people who opt not to get the brake flush and then if they have they have a warranty issue with the abs or something and have not serviced the brake system properly are probably outta luck. Again, 539 for service B plus $209 for the brake flush seems like a lot of money. Gonna be up to $800 just for a service B. Seems kinda steep, then again I guess everything is steep these days.
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JTK, what does your dealer charge for a service B including the brake flush?
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Old Nov 17, 2021 | 12:27 PM
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JTK, what does your dealer charge for a service B including the brake flush?
Funny that you should ask!

Just emailed my SA and waiting for his response to the cost of the "B" service. As soon as he replies I will post.

The "A" service is $225.

see; https://www.rallyemotors.com/service-specials/

Update: SA just replied: with the $50 coupon it is $715.

That makes the first "A" + "B" service $940 which is cheaper than the two year service maintenance agreement. The only reason I have the prepaid maintenance is that it was put into my lease and residualized.

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Originally Posted by 2012 merc amg
Instead they are charging extra for the Brake Flush? Like $220.00 extra. I thought the Brake Flush was suppose to be included with Service B. As it stands Service B is nearly $540.00 at my dealer and the main things are changing the oil and the oil filter and the cabin filter and checking and topping off fluids. Seems like a lot, then you tack on another $220 for the brake flush and you have a 800 bill after tax just for a Service B. Getting really tempting to try and find a good Indy place for service. Probably about half that price.
Correction:

I have been thinking about this:

The "A" service is $225:

The "B" service is the "A" service plus brake fluid change $220, total $445. That means the difference $270 ($715 - $225 - $220) is to change the air and cabin filter.


In the future when it is time for the "B" service I will have them do the oil and filter and brake fluid and may decide to do the filters myself.

Many, many years ago in the 1980's when I had a 300 Turbo diesel it required servicing every 5,000 miles. My first service was over $100. The next service at 10,000 miles I said instead of routine service just change the oil and filter. The SA asked about everything else, which were basically inspections. Knowing that if anything was wrong they would do it and get paid under warranty, I said "No thank you. Just change the oil and filter". My bill was under $30.

My point is: If you do the visual inspections yourself then in the future I am going to have just the oil and filter changed instead of the "A" service. I think that will save a lot of money!

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The engine air filter is $23

see: https://mbparts.mbusa.com/oem-parts/...nt-2761800009?

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The air filter is $47

see: https://mbparts.mbusa.com/oem-parts/...er-2760940504?

The cabin filter is $65

see: https://mbparts.mbusa.com/oem-parts/...xoCg8IQAvD_BwE

This are list prices so I assume if you search the internet you can find them cheaper.

UPDATE:

Simple internet search:

Cabin filter: $46

see: https://www.autohauspartsdelivered.c...-205835014764?

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Or better yet: tell them to do an oil change, cabin and air filter change and brake flush!
That^
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Thanks for the video. This is by far the best and the easiest way to change the engine air filters in W166/X166 3.0L V6-TT GLE400/43 GLS450 I've seen. (Of course in W213 E400/450 non of the prep work is needed, but for GLE/GLS the video is priceless. Thanks again for posting it and to the person who made it.)
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They seem like decent air filters and for 15 bucks for a pair can't go wrong. Thats good advice I think asking for service A with a brake flush and change the cabin filter. I'd think 225 is around what service A is and then probably around 150 to change the cabin filter and then 220 for the brake flush. $600 or less is better than $800 or so. I replace my own air filters every couple of years, it's very easy on these cars. I think from what I've heard the Cabin filter is not the most easy thing to deal with.
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Originally Posted by 2012 merc amg
Instead they are charging extra for the Brake Flush? Like $220.00 extra. I thought the Brake Flush was suppose to be included with Service B. As it stands Service B is nearly $540.00 at my dealer and the main things are changing the oil and the oil filter and the cabin filter and checking and topping off fluids. Seems like a lot, then you tack on another $220 for the brake flush and you have a 800 bill after tax just for a Service B. Getting really tempting to try and find a good Indy place for service. Probably about half that price.
Just curious -- what year and at how many miles are you looking to have the Service B done? Thanks!
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I'm at 3 years old, the car is a 2019, bought it new. 27K miles on the car now. The car sat for 6 months and the overdue for service reminder is coming up now because of the time the car was sitting.
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I'm at 3 years old, the car is a 2019, bought it new. 27K miles on the car now. The car sat for 6 months and the overdue for service reminder is coming up now because of the time the car was sitting.
Thanks. Considering all I can do is add gas to the car -- I have to have everything done by the dealer or an independent shop.

I was due for the A service -- I have a 2018 E300 4Matic with 44,000 miles. I wanted to get the car in before the original manufacturers warranty expired (even though I bought the extended warranty AND my car is CPO'ed). So I called three local dealers, and one independent shop. Two of the dealers were priced astronomically. The independent shop, when I called, said they "are not a big quoting shop, without having the car there, onsite" -- but they did give me an "estimate" of about $250 to $300. The third dealer was $249 with a $50 off special, so I went with that.

So -- for me, the service B would be at what -- 75,000 miles? Thanks in advance!
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Originally Posted by BoMB
Thanks. Considering all I can do is add gas to the car -- I have to have everything done by the dealer or an independent shop.

I was due for the A service -- I have a 2018 E300 4Matic with 44,000 miles. I wanted to get the car in before the original manufacturers warranty expired (even though I bought the extended warranty AND my car is CPO'ed). So I called three local dealers, and one independent shop. Two of the dealers were priced astronomically. The independent shop, when I called, said they "are not a big quoting shop, without having the car there, onsite" -- but they did give me an "estimate" of about $250 to $300. The third dealer was $249 with a $50 off special, so I went with that.

So -- for me, the service B would be at what -- 75,000 miles? Thanks in advance!
The "A" and "B" service are every 10,000 miles or each year whichever comes first.

Having said that, I personally, especially because of covid during 9 months I put less than 1,500 miles on the car, I have elected to go every 10,000 miles.

Now I know there has been much discussion as to whether MB will honor the warranty if for example during the year you put on only 2,000 miles you still need to change the oil: I DO NOT WNT THIS THREAD TO DISSOLVE INTO THAT!

I am just posting what Mercedes says to be done: In any event if you had the "A" service done at 44,000 miles then the next service the "B" service, MB says should be done at 54,000 miles or within a year whichever comes first, not 75,000 miles.

Finally keep in mind the 50,000 mile service is the "B" service plus changing of plugs. On the 4 cylinder it is quite easy - I posted a video, but if all you can do is put gas in your car then that too will have to be done by either the dealer or an independent shop. No idea as to the cost.
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