PSims

You can definitely order a 2025 MY E-Class. But understand how the process works. Recommend finding a dealership that has "allocations" already. An allocation means MB has agreed to build a car for that specific dealership and it can be "customized" to meet your needs. If the dealer you use does not have an allocation, you'll have to wait until they get one for your order to process. That could take months, as I found out. So, call around and don't just go to the nearest MB dealership.

leadfoot4

Thanks for the information. When taking delivery of our GLE, the dealership's staff explained all of the gizmos and gadgets of the vehicle. However, this vehicle is a somewhat complex, electronic device. A couple of weeks after we took delivery of it, a couple of questions arose, so we took a cruise out to the dealership, to have a couple things re-explained. This visit took place in early May, and it was at that time that I told our sales rep that I was possibility interested in an E Class. He showed me what they had in stock, as well as what could be obtained through a "dealer trade". However, none of the already produced cars appealed to me, based on colors and option packages, so we discussed a special order.

Based on our conversation, it appeared that point in time was right on the cusp of 2024 ordering/production ending, and 2025 ordering soon commencing. I'm playing games with what I can move around within my 401K investment accounts, in order to cover the cost of the car, so I couldn't say, "OK, let's place an order", right at that point. I'm in a better position, I think, in the present, however I'm also weighing an order based on when a delivery would actually occur. I have no plans on driving the E Class, should I buy one, in the winter. Therefore, if I order relatively soon, and can get it by mid-late November, I'd be comfortable with that. If that's not doable, I'd be thinking of ordering later on, maybe in January.

With respect to what dealer to do business with, there's only one M-B dealer in my metropolitan area, and on top of that, it's at the diagonally opposite side of the county in which I live. Because of that, the dealer is located about 24-25 miles from my home. The next closest dealers are about 60-65 miles away, respectively. There's absolutely no way I'd be travelling that far, just to buy a car. So, if my local dealer has an allocation spot available, I'll be tempted to make the move. If not, oh well. I'm not trying to be a "pompous azz", it's just that another car isn't something I really need. It would be very nice to have it, but I don't NEED it..........

leadfoot4

Just an update, on where my quest stands.....

Yes, the information above, is correct, orders taken now, are for 2025 models. While I can realistically afford an E450, I'm not exactly rich, either, so a "fully loaded" E450 is both beyond my budget, as well as having far more "bells and whistles" than I really care to have. Consequently, I've been doing an "inventory search", using the database on the M-B corporate website, to find something that I'd like, as well as be within my budget. Seems that I found a car that I like, at a dealership that's a little over 200 miles from where I live. My local dealer says that's a reasonable distance to work with, if the other dealer agrees to do a trade with them.

If not, I guess I'll be looking at a 2025, but the $2500 price bump will be a tough pill to swallow. I'd also be concerned about a delivery date, as I don't plan on driving this car in the winter, so I'd have to plan my order time, so it arrived either fairly soon, or early spring.

PSims

MBUSA now has the 2025 MY build available and shows pricing, models, and trims for the 2025 E-Class. Of note, base prices increased but the Pinnacle Trim price went down. All other prices remain the same.

btx24

Well I decided to call it off on a e450. As said the order got confused and was ordered as a e350.

I did some looking a found a couple of 24 e 450 that would work but my dealer did not do
dealer trades. I didnt want to mess with driving far off and try to work a trade. Now they
did have a quick allotment that would have just been a month off for e450 that could be
changed to my specs. Thinking with the price increase did i really want to spend 90K
on a sedan that wasnt sure liked the driving position. They had no SUV's in the GLC or
GLE line, So would be ordering. I just went and got me a 24 X5. I've have numerous BMW
and X5 so knew would be satisfied. In 4 when trade at warranty end look at mercedes again.

L1Wolf

I see that. Nice to see as it makes the 2025 MY seem official and hopefully there will be no artificial holds for it not being officially released.

Hicksra

Interesting that it now shows 429 hp instead of 375 that the 24s showed..

L1Wolf

That is interesting! I wonder if they did something to tweak the engine and get the additional HP out of it. That's an increase of 54HP or a 14% increase in power. The torque went from 369 to 413 which is a 44 ft-lb gain or 12% increase. I'll ping my sales rep on this tomorrow to see if these numbers are accurate.If so, that's a welcome change!

ua549

The 375 HP is for the gas engine alone and does not include the electric HP.
Per MBUSA.com "With a twin-scroll turbo, CAMTRONIC variable valve lift, and friction-reducing NANOSLIDE cylinder walls, the gas engine outputs 375 hp and 369 lb-ft of torque on its own".

Hicksra

BUT if you add 23 hp for the electrics to 375, you get 398 - not 429. I’m wondering if they erroneously entered the specs for an S Class instead of an E Class.
I’m hoping the 429 is correct, but doubtful.

L1Wolf

I was thinking the same thing. The numbers don't add up. I'm thinking it's a mistake but hopefully it's not and they did something to increase hp.

leadfoot4

Just another update...I confirmed with my dealer, that I'd like to move forward with the 2024 E450, that they located at another dealer. We agreed on a purchase price, and they then contacted the dealer that had the car. Bad news, as they potentially have 2 other buyers who are supposedly interested in this car. It's been in dealer stock for 3 weeks, unsold, and all of a sudden, people want it! !

My dealer has no 2024s on hand, and the several others that they located, within a reasonable distance of us, to make a trade feasible, are "heavily loaded" cars, well into the mid $80K range, and that's just too rich for me, as well as having added, complicated electronics that I just don't want to deal with. So, it appears that "Plan B", for me, is to consider a 2025 model, and just absorb the price bump. My dealer did locate a 2025 at another dealer, but between the price bump, plus the added option packs that it has, over what I want, adds roughly $4K to the window sticker, as well as the additional $350 of local sales taxes, and at this point in time, it takes it out of reach for me. I'm retired, therefore I don't have a paycheck coming in each week, so I have to exercise some restraint once in a while.

However, I'm holding out, at least for a while, that a miracle occurs, and the other two "buyers" for the 2024 that I like, will both decide to step up to a 2025, and I will then be able to purchase the 2024. We'll see........

Alan Smithee

The measurement is peak HP; for the E450 peak is 5,500-6,100 RPM. The EQ boost is done by 3,000 RPM.

The car has 375 HP. Anything indicating 429 is an error.

Hicksra

Also, the All Terrain 450 is still showing 375 hp and it would be odd if they put different engines in the two.

PSims

MBUSA is showing 2025 MY E-Class on dealer lots. That's a recent update.

ua549

On MBUSA.com a vehicle comparison shows:
2025 E450 4Matic Sedan with 429 HP @ 6100 rpm and 413 lb-ft @ 1,800-5,800 rpm with hybrid assist
2025 E450 4Matic All-Terrain with 375 hp @ 5,500-6,100 rpm and 369 lb-ft @ 1,600-4,500 rpm with mild hybrid drive
2025 GLE450 4Matic SUV with 375 hp @ 5,500-6,100 rpm and 369 lb-ft @ 1,600-4,500 rpm with mild hybrid drive
The S class version shows 442 hp @ 5,800-6,100 rpm and 413 lb-ft @ 2,200-5,00 rpm with mild hybrid drive and electric auxiliarycompressor
This begs the question "What's the difference between hybrid assist and mild hybrid drive?"

petee1997

that was the HP of the 2024 E53 and it is an error. There is no super charger to b boost the power.

L1Wolf

I thought the 2024 E53 came with 577hp not 429hp. Isn't it the prior 2023 E53 model that comes with 429hp?

Alan Smithee

Hybrid assist and mild hybrid drive are the same thing. What's different is the "electric auxillary compressor" on the 429 and 442 HP versions of the M256 (used in the AMG 53 models prior to the W214, S500, and new G550). Again, it is a typo and not in the E450.
Correct.

BenjaminKohl

Technically there's no 2024 E53. The other poster was definitely refrencing the 2023.

petee1997

you are correct. There wasn’t a 2024 E53. The 2025;E53 is coming this fall with 577 hp

GrnLantern

Wait, so is there not going to be an E63?

2012 merc amg

Nope no e63. I’d still like to see dyno figures between my 2019 v6 rated at 362 hp and the 2025 rated at 375 hp. I’d be willing to bet there is a lot more difference than 13 hp.

Alan Smithee

If they sell enough EVs to offset the emissions I'm sure eventually we will see one...but it will most likely have their V8 e-Performance PHEV drivetrain and weigh more than a city bus.

GrnLantern

Wow, so it's topping off at the E53 only. That's rough.

Ok thank you both!