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Old 06-20-2024, 09:23 AM
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I'd cancel the 2024 order. By the time it arrives you will have already lost the first year's depreciation.

Thank you for your reply. I don't understand why there has been such a delay with the E class. The other models of MB don't seem to be delayed
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Originally Posted by ua549
I'd cancel the 2024 order. By the time it arrives you will have already lost the first year's depreciation.
Is that actually how it works in the US? In Europe, if I get my car delivered in 2025, then all that matters is that the production date is 2025 and registration date is also 2025. It's a brand new car for sales purposes. Especially since it's the same model (nothing changes between 2024 and 2025).

On the other hand, if i get my card produced and delivered in late 2024, it's a 2024 car.

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Originally Posted by LizN
Hello all,
I ordered a new E 450 in January. The initial date of delivery was May ,
Now the production date is late June .
They don’t give me a date that it will be here …does anyone have an idea about that?
Also, should I just cancel the 2024 and order the 2025?
I am not in a hurry as my 2014 with 26 k miles works fine and I can drive my husband’s 2024 s
Thanks for your help
II will not make any difference if you plan on keeping this car 10 years like your present car. Depreciation matters for people who trade their cars in 3-4 year cycles. If you plan on keeping this car 10 years like your present car, depreciation is not a consideration. The value of older cars like your 2014 is based on mileage and condition. You will pay more money for the 2025, probably get less discount and you will wait another 3-4 months longer.

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i looked at some surrounding M dealers before going with the one ordered from. asked a salesman at one
about 25 ,he said mercedes was giving them no timeline since had so many 24 on lot, think 15 e class.
the one went with had allocation for 25, so seems to be all over the place on information
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Hello all,
I ordered a new E 450 in January. The initial date of delivery was May ,
Now the production date is late June .
They don’t give me a date that it will be here …does anyone have an idea about that?
Also, should I just cancel the 2024 and order the 2025?
I am not in a hurry as my 2014 with 26 k miles works fine and I can drive my husband’s 2024 s
Thanks for your help
If you are interested in changing from an existing 2024 E450 order to a 2025 model year, just call your dealership to explore such a possibility. Your existing order cannot be merely changed to an equivalently equipped 2025 model, and it has to be canceled and a brand new order created (your dealership also needs to have an allocation for the order). My situation was almost identical to yours, but after much thought, I decided to change my previous order of a 2024 E450 (build date late June) to a 2025 model (just notified by my dealership of build completion date of 7/6), in essense pushing back my build date by about two weeks (delivery date typically 6-8 weeks after build date). If your dealership has an order allocation, they should be able to provide you with an approximate build date to help you make a decision on whether to go ahead with the new 2025 order. In my opinion, the decision basically comes down to price increase for the new model year vehicle (presumably small) vs prolonged depreciation rate and longer wait time (varies depending on build date). Needless to say, it is necessarily a personal decision based on one's own situation/preferences/priorities, etc.

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Originally Posted by LizN
Hello all,
I ordered a new E 450 in January. The initial date of delivery was May ,
Now the production date is late June .
They don’t give me a date that it will be here …does anyone have an idea about that?
Also, should I just cancel the 2024 and order the 2025?
I am not in a hurry as my 2014 with 26 k miles works fine and I can drive my husband’s 2024 s
Thanks for your help
I agree with @cruise2024 above. I would also be asking your dealership why the massive date change. A delivery date of May moving to a build date of June is a massive delay when you consider delivery is roughly 8 weeks from build date. That May delivery should have had a build/production date of early April at the latest making a new build date of late June a 3 month delay. None of that should have any bearing on your decision to move to a 2025, but your dealer owes you an explanation.

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i looked at some surrounding M dealers before going with the one ordered from. asked a salesman at one
about 25 ,he said mercedes was giving them no timeline since had so many 24 on lot, think 15 e class.
the one went with had allocation for 25, so seems to be all over the place on information
I would not believe everything a dealer tells you. With a bunch of 2024 models on the lot, they prefer you buy one of those. I'm told that all cars built on 7/1 and beyond are 2025 models. The only difference being a center airbag and a couple more options. One would hope that a few improvements on the assembly process is done as well based on early lessons learned while producing the 2024's. Although I would imagine that happens on each decade.
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Thank you for the input.
I just am wondering if maybe I should switch to a different car.
The E is just the right size for me.
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was reading something online that expects the 25 e450 to go up about 3K in price.
wonder if they are going to include some pkg as standard ???
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Originally Posted by btx24
was reading something online that expects the 25 e450 to go up about 3K in price.
wonder if they are going to include some pkg as standard ???
That would be about a 4.5% price increase. Should know soon because several in this forum should get VIN numbers soon that would include the MSRP and cost for packages/options. My spec sheet has a place holder cost for the MSRP and all options/packages are the same as my original order.
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Originally Posted by btx24
was reading something online that expects the 25 e450 to go up about 3K in price.
wonder if they are going to include some pkg as standard ???
Based on the 2025 Order Guide, the only difference is the inclusion of a new center air bag as standard equipment for the new model year vehicle. The cost of this additional item should not necessarily be 3K, but there is always the standard "excuse" of inflation, which at 3.5% currently, would translate to an increase of another about $2500 to the base price. So a total price increase of 3K, even though it sounded high for a car that is essentially the same as its prior year model, is not out of the question.

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was reading something online that expects the 25 e450 to go up about 3K in price.
wonder if they are going to include some pkg as standard ???
As sedans are not selling well in the US vs. SUV, I highly doubt there will be any increase in price.

We will know in short time as the 2025 will be arriving soon.

Just my $.02
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As sedans are not selling well in the US vs. SUV, I highly doubt there will be any increase in price.

We will know in short time as the 2025 will be arriving soon.

Just my $.02
agree but planning dept in car manufacturing do thing that scratch the head about. On 2 close by
mercedes dealers sorta track what e classes they show, been doing it for 3 months. same cars listed,
either they dont update or not selling.... 10 to 15 units each
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agree but planning dept in car manufacturing do thing that scratch the head about. On 2 close by
mercedes dealers sorta track what e classes they show, been doing it for 3 months. same cars listed,
either they dont update or not selling.... 10 to 15 units each
It is possible that they have not updated, but not updating for 90 days: I suspect the cars are not selling
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All of this is anecdotal evidence and not based on actual data. Just google "2024 Mercedes-Benz numbers" and the first hit is a press release of MB sales numbers for 2024. Reading it, you will find that MB sold 3,426 E-Class units in Q1 2024 which I assume is a mix of 2023 and 2024 models. We will see in a few weeks what Q2 number are which should be all 2024 models. Q1 2024 sales for E-Class are up 28% from the same quarter last year which is a pretty good growth. The GLE seems to be the most popular MB passenger vehicle this year with 15,096 units sold in Q1 but that represents a -10% drop in sales compared to the same quarter last year. The highest sales growth was the GLC with 8,646 in Q1 2024 verses 3,656 in Q1 2023 which is a 224% increase. Second to that is the EQE with a 163% growth selling 5,113 units in Q1 2024 verses 1,944 in Q1 2023. The largest drop in sales belongs to the CLS dropping -97% to sell only 11 units in Q1 2024. While it's true that the SUV/Crossover models sell more units, the E-Class is not doing bad. Excluding vans, the E-Class is 5% of all vehicle sales for MB. The C-Class is 12% while the GLE is 23%.
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All of this is anecdotal evidence and not based on actual data. Just google "2024 Mercedes-Benz numbers" and the first hit is a press release of MB sales numbers for 2024. Reading it, you will find that MB sold 3,426 E-Class units in Q1 2024 which I assume is a mix of 2023 and 2024 models. We will see in a few weeks what Q2 number are which should be all 2024 models. Q1 2024 sales for E-Class are up 28% from the same quarter last year which is a pretty good growth. The GLE seems to be the most popular MB passenger vehicle this year with 15,096 units sold in Q1 but that represents a -10% drop in sales compared to the same quarter last year. The highest sales growth was the GLC with 8,646 in Q1 2024 verses 3,656 in Q1 2023 which is a 224% increase. Second to that is the EQE with a 163% growth selling 5,113 units in Q1 2024 verses 1,944 in Q1 2023. The largest drop in sales belongs to the CLS dropping -97% to sell only 11 units in Q1 2024. While it's true that the SUV/Crossover models sell more units, the E-Class is not doing bad. Excluding vans, the E-Class is 5% of all vehicle sales for MB. The C-Class is 12% while the GLE is 23%.
As I posted, the GLE version of the E Class outsells the E class almost 5 to 1
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Yes, one needs to double check the order before it is submitted. I decided to cancel my original order of a 2024 E450 and placed a brand new order of an equivalently equipped 2025 model. In my particular case, there was also an error in porting over the equipment list of the orginal order to the new one in that an additional item was included (illuminated grille for $400). I caught the error in the purchase order and the additional item was deleted before it was submitted. In addition to the center air bag, there is also a minor difference between the two model years in that MB now provides a choice in the headliner color in the 2025 version. For example, with a Macchiato Beige/Black interior (my order), one can now specify Macchiato Beige (55U) or Black (51U) as headliner for 2025 whereas only Macchiato Beige was available in the previous model year (all other interior colors are similarly provided with a choice in headliner color). I don't know which color combination is the default used by MB, but it is advisable to make sure your preferred headliner color is indeed specified in your new purchase order, especially if the equipment list is transferred over from one for a previous model year.
Great advice about options transferring over to new model year. However I wanted to mention a minor correction regarding headliner color - I ordered and received my 2024 and I indeed had a choice of headliner color and I chose black 51U with my Macchiato Beige interior - it’s beautiful. This is probably useless information at this point as I’m guessing most people will be ordering 2025’s at this point - but thought I’d mention just in case 2024’s were still being ordered
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I suspect the cars are not selling
They aren't trying to sell them. They'd rather Americans buy Alabama-built SUVs or the EQ models. I would not be surprised if the ICE sedans (and wagon) fade from the US market before the end of the W214 generation due to poor sales they bring upon themselves.
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They aren't trying to sell them. They'd rather Americans buy Alabama-built SUVs or the EQ models. I would not be surprised if the ICE sedans (and wagon) fade from the US market before the end of the W214 generation due to poor sales they bring upon themselves.
I saw a few E-Class commercials back in March but only on one network. Haven’t seen anything on the E-450. My dealer rep said they haven’t started marketing the E-450 in the USA seeming to indicate future marketing is coming to induce visibility and sales.
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Just advised by my dealer that my wife’s E450 went to production earlier this week. Unusual since it had a build date of July 19th but went into production 3 weeks early. The strange part is that the production date was never changed and just showed up in production. Maybe the factory system is late producing info to the dealers.
in any event it was good news for my wife. She should have her car by late Aug.
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what noticed on the MB build site. Had a couple of e 450 build saved. So went back to check.
When recall they both reverted back to a new build, Not the priced had saved either
So when reentered, The pinnacle pkg now shows you have to have digital light pkg and is added in.
rather than separate entry like before.

The new build has a higher price than before. Now if recall the new build it comes up.
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Just advised by my dealer that my wife’s E450 went to production earlier this week. Unusual since it had a build date of July 19th but went into production 3 weeks early. The strange part is that the production date was never changed and just showed up in production. Maybe the factory system is late producing info to the dealers.
in any event it was good news for my wife. She should have her car by late Aug.
That is good news. Did you get a VIN? I wonder how that tracks with the assumption that cars produced before July 1st are 2024 models and I recall you had ordered a 2025 model. Not really a big deal but the 2025 model comes standard with a center air bag. My production date is July 1st and I have not heard from my dealership recently. I'll be calling them tomorrow to see if they got a VIN and see that production has started.
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[QUOTE=marzillo;8994191]That is good news. Did you get a VIN? I wonder how that tracks with the assumption that cars produced before July 1st are 2024 models and I recall you had ordered a 2025 model. Not really a big deal but the 2025 model comes standard with a center air bag. My production date is July 1st and I have not heard from my dealership recently. I'll be calling them tomorrow to see if they got a VIN and see that production has started.[/QUOTE

My understanding is that 25 production was to start July 1st. My car went to production last week but it is possible that means it will be built in the first 10 days of July. I don’t think the production date is the day the car is actually built but rather when the build cycle actually starts. It is also possible that 2025 production started earlier since the only difference is the center air bag.
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Originally Posted by marzillo
That is good news. Did you get a VIN? I wonder how that tracks with the assumption that cars produced before July 1st are 2024 models and I recall you had ordered a 2025 model. Not really a big deal but the 2025 model comes standard with a center air bag. My production date is July 1st and I have not heard from my dealership recently. I'll be calling them tomorrow to see if they got a VIN and see that production has started.[/QUOTE

My understanding is that 25 production was to start July 1st. My car went to production last week but it is possible that means it will be built in the first 10 days of July. I don’t think the production date is the day the car is actually built but rather when the build cycle actually starts. It is also possible that 2025 production started earlier since the only difference is the center air bag.
When I changed my original 2024 E450 order to a 2025 MY, I was provided with a build date of 7/31. Since then, I was informed by my dealership recently that my car's production completion date (not build date) is now 7/6. So seemingly, the production date of my car has been moved up by about 3 weeks from the original build date, which is rather consistent with your case. However, I have not received any further communication from my dealership regarding VIN, etc.

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your completion date would be close to the completion date of my car if my info is correct. Will know sometime this week.


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