Is this a good time to buy E450 wagon?
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Is this a good time to buy E450 wagon?
My E450 Wagon was recently totaled when I was slammed from behind while stopped at a red light. I am thinking of buying a new one or a 2025 CPO with low miles. There are very few MB wagons available in the Northeast US right now, but I am not in a hurry to buy. Not sure if present conditions favor the buyer or is it better to sit for a while and see how things play out. Appreciate your feedback.
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My E450 Wagon was recently totaled when I was slammed from behind while stopped at a red light. I am thinking of buying a new one or a 2025 CPO with low miles. There are very few MB wagons available in the Northeast US right now, but I am not in a hurry to buy. Not sure if present conditions favor the buyer or is it better to sit for a while and see how things play out. Appreciate your feedback.
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If you do end up looking into a 214 (2024up) check it out carefully to make sure you like it before buying. Not everyone likes the newer ones over the older 213s. I was sorry I got rid of my 213 for a 214. I got rid of the 2025 214 I had already and no regrets. At least to me it was too tech heavy and to confined on driver and passenger space and difficult entering and exiting the car..
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If you do end up looking into a 214 (2024up) check it out carefully to make sure you like it before buying. Not everyone likes the newer ones over the older 213s. I was sorry I got rid of my 213 for a 214. I got rid of the 2025 214 I had already and no regrets. At least to me it was too tech heavy and to confined on driver and passenger space and difficult entering and exiting the car..
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If new vehicles become more expensive because of tariffs, then more people will be buying "nearly new" used vehicles. That increases demand resulting in upward price pressure. Supply & Demand 101
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Best deal would be recent used vehicle. No need to pay the cpo penalty. You can always get better coverage aftermarket warranty if that makes you sleep better at night.
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it's an excellent time to buy. I just got a 2025 E450 All terrain for about 13% off sticker price. Car had an MSRP of 82,855 and I paid $72K plus tax. Shop around at the different dealerships. Car business is slow atm and they are dealing on 2025s.
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New models generally arrive in the dealerships in September. The 2026 E Class are already in the dealerships or will be by the end of September beginning of October.
High end luxury cars generally depreciate 45% over the first 3 years: approximately 20% the first year, 15% the second year and 10% the third year.
Keep in mind once the 2026 hit the dealership, the 2025 will be one year old and generally speaking will be worth 15% to 20% less.
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I said "To be expected"
Can you explain why you think this "is a great deal"?
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I think the conversation is about a brand-new car, and if so, getting 13% off the MSRP is a good deal, IMO. Unless the dealership is in the business of going bankrupt.
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It’s always a good time to buy a 450 Wagon.
More to your point of buying conditions, I learned a couple things last month when I bought out my wife’s 450 Sedan lease:
(1) dealers don’t have a lot of inventory in the 450s; and
(2) a lot of lessees are just keeping the cars, partly because of tariffs in the future, partly because of “market adjustment” pricing when the leases originated; and
(3) as soon as I showed interest in buying out this current lease, the price dropped from the residual shown in the lease to what I could buy the car for at Manheim. Obviously my wife’s loaded and pampered low mileage car for auction pricing was more appealing to me.
There’s a lot in there, so read it slowly.
Bottom line, if a dealer has the car you want, and you have access to Manheim pricing, go cut your deal now before the new “model” (read “budget”) year starts.
With floor plan financing now firmly above the zero percent Fed hayday, no one is looking to tie up capital in cars sitting on a lot waiting for this current economic policy to fall off the rails (which they all seem convinced is coming).
There are more sellers than buyers, of everything, everywhere right now.
maw
More to your point of buying conditions, I learned a couple things last month when I bought out my wife’s 450 Sedan lease:
(1) dealers don’t have a lot of inventory in the 450s; and
(2) a lot of lessees are just keeping the cars, partly because of tariffs in the future, partly because of “market adjustment” pricing when the leases originated; and
(3) as soon as I showed interest in buying out this current lease, the price dropped from the residual shown in the lease to what I could buy the car for at Manheim. Obviously my wife’s loaded and pampered low mileage car for auction pricing was more appealing to me.
There’s a lot in there, so read it slowly.
Bottom line, if a dealer has the car you want, and you have access to Manheim pricing, go cut your deal now before the new “model” (read “budget”) year starts.
With floor plan financing now firmly above the zero percent Fed hayday, no one is looking to tie up capital in cars sitting on a lot waiting for this current economic policy to fall off the rails (which they all seem convinced is coming).
There are more sellers than buyers, of everything, everywhere right now.
maw
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Are we talking about a used car or a new car ? 2 entirely different animals. If it is a brand-new car, unregistered and with no extra miles on it, then that falls under a certain profile. On the other hand, if it is a used car, with a few 1000 miles on it, then that's a totally different profile.
I think the conversation is about a brand-new car, and if so, getting 13% off the MSRP is a good deal, IMO. Unless the dealership is in the business of going bankrupt.
I think the conversation is about a brand-new car, and if so, getting 13% off the MSRP is a good deal, IMO. Unless the dealership is in the business of going bankrupt.
But with the 2026 model year cars out, a 2025 is a left over. The minute you drive the car out the lot, it is now a one year old used car: it has immediately lost 15% to 20% of its value.
Hope this clarifies.
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It’s always a good time to buy a 450 Wagon.
More to your point of buying conditions, I learned a couple things last month when I bought out my wife’s 450 Sedan lease:
(1) dealers don’t have a lot of inventory in the 450s; and
(2) a lot of lessees are just keeping the cars, partly because of tariffs in the future, partly because of “market adjustment” pricing when the leases originated; and
(3) as soon as I showed interest in buying out this current lease, the price dropped from the residual shown in the lease to what I could buy the car for at Manheim. Obviously my wife’s loaded and pampered low mileage car for auction pricing was more appealing to me.
There’s a lot in there, so read it slowly.
Bottom line, if a dealer has the car you want, and you have access to Manheim pricing, go cut your deal now before the new “model” (read “budget”) year starts.
With floor plan financing now firmly above the zero percent Fed hayday, no one is looking to tie up capital in cars sitting on a lot waiting for this current economic policy to fall off the rails (which they all seem convinced is coming).
There are more sellers than buyers, of everything, everywhere right now.
maw
More to your point of buying conditions, I learned a couple things last month when I bought out my wife’s 450 Sedan lease:
(1) dealers don’t have a lot of inventory in the 450s; and
(2) a lot of lessees are just keeping the cars, partly because of tariffs in the future, partly because of “market adjustment” pricing when the leases originated; and
(3) as soon as I showed interest in buying out this current lease, the price dropped from the residual shown in the lease to what I could buy the car for at Manheim. Obviously my wife’s loaded and pampered low mileage car for auction pricing was more appealing to me.
There’s a lot in there, so read it slowly.
Bottom line, if a dealer has the car you want, and you have access to Manheim pricing, go cut your deal now before the new “model” (read “budget”) year starts.
With floor plan financing now firmly above the zero percent Fed hayday, no one is looking to tie up capital in cars sitting on a lot waiting for this current economic policy to fall off the rails (which they all seem convinced is coming).
There are more sellers than buyers, of everything, everywhere right now.
maw
Same is true for the GLE: 350's and not 450's
When I went to the BMW dealer to demo, they had over 25 530i and not one 540i. I wanted and ordered the 540i.
During covid, when the lease ran out on my E450, I was no longer upside down: (up side down is where the buy back is higher than the value of the car) to the contrary I had equity in my car: my E450 was worth about $10K more than the buyback, so I just bought it. If there is equity in the car at the end of the lease, a lot of people will buy. If the lease is up side down, people will turn in their lease. Very few people will buy a car at lease end where the residual is higher than what the car is worth.
The buy back is fixed by MBFS. Are you saying that MBFS re-negotiated the buy back? Not saying that they didn't but this would be first time I have ever heard of that in the last 10/15 years. Many, many years ago buy back's were negotiable, but that all stopped when the finance companies took gap insurance on leased cars. So at auction when the car brings less than the buy back, the gap insurance covered the difference and made MBFS whole.
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Dealer's never, I repeat never have a lot of 450's on the lot. For every 450 on the lot the dealer will have 20 350's. Believe it or not, most people who want an E Class could care less what engine is in it. Most have never driven the E450, only the E350, so they have nothing to compare it with. As the E350 is cheaper most just go with the E350. The dealers stock cars that will sell and that is the E350 not the E450. As you correctly point out, floor planning is expensive and dealers stock what they can sell, price is important and that is the E350.
Same is true for the GLE: 350's and not 450's
When I went to the BMW dealer to demo, they had over 25 530i and not one 540i. I wanted and ordered the 540i.
During covid, when the lease ran out on my E450, I was no longer upside down: (up side down is where the buy back is higher than the value of the car) to the contrary I had equity in my car: my E450 was worth about $10K more than the buyback, so I just bought it. If there is equity in the car at the end of the lease, a lot of people will buy. If the lease is up side down, people will turn in their lease. Very few people will buy a car at lease end where the residual is higher than what the car is worth.
The buy back is fixed by MBFS. Are you saying that MBFS re-negotiated the buy back? Not saying that they didn't but this would be first time I have ever heard of that in the last 10/15 years. Many, many years ago buy back's were negotiable, but that all stopped when the finance companies took gap insurance on leased cars. So at auction when the car brings less than the buy back, the gap insurance covered the difference and made MBFS whole.
Same is true for the GLE: 350's and not 450's
When I went to the BMW dealer to demo, they had over 25 530i and not one 540i. I wanted and ordered the 540i.
During covid, when the lease ran out on my E450, I was no longer upside down: (up side down is where the buy back is higher than the value of the car) to the contrary I had equity in my car: my E450 was worth about $10K more than the buyback, so I just bought it. If there is equity in the car at the end of the lease, a lot of people will buy. If the lease is up side down, people will turn in their lease. Very few people will buy a car at lease end where the residual is higher than what the car is worth.
The buy back is fixed by MBFS. Are you saying that MBFS re-negotiated the buy back? Not saying that they didn't but this would be first time I have ever heard of that in the last 10/15 years. Many, many years ago buy back's were negotiable, but that all stopped when the finance companies took gap insurance on leased cars. So at auction when the car brings less than the buy back, the gap insurance covered the difference and made MBFS whole.
But to your point about dealers never having (or wanting) a lot of 450s on the lot, we leased this car at the end of summer 2022 during the height of the chip shortage, when every E Class I could find had "market adjustment" pricing of between +$3k to +$7k. This one (less than an hour away) had ZERO market adjustment. From the option sheet, I suspect someone ordered it and didn't pick it up. "Acoustic Comfort Package" anyone? The dealer wanted it gone and we didn't want to pay market adjustment. Plus my wife was changing jobs and had to turn in her management car. She has always been a E Class girl (repeated 350s) so I talked her into stepping into the "grown" 450. As soon as she drove it I knew it was hers.
So maybe somewhere in all that some insurance already covered some gap or whatever, but my buyout number was "market adjusted" in my favor -- down to what I could get a similar car for at Manheim. Except none of those are this loaded, and none of them have been kept in my garage for the last 3 years. So I took advantage.
I looked at a bunch of other cars and talked to a bunch of other salesmen, all of whom were singing the song I described earlier -- not a lot of inventory, people keeping their cars, nothing staying on the used lot too long, etc. etc.
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My car was purchased Brand New from the lot with the 13% discount. I am aware of the heavy depreciation so i targeted a 12-15% discount on the purchase price of a car that had been sitting. Highly recommend Mercedes of Eugene and they have 1 more E450 wagon on the lot that im sure theyd deal on!
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The last thing you do, when inventory is low, is to let the product go for a song. Unless I am missing something drastic.
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My E450 Wagon was recently totaled when I was slammed from behind while stopped at a red light. I am thinking of buying a new one or a 2025 CPO with low miles. There are very few MB wagons available in the Northeast US right now, but I am not in a hurry to buy. Not sure if present conditions favor the buyer or is it better to sit for a while and see how things play out. Appreciate your feedback.
In my area of the Northeast there are always some E450 wagons at the dealerships, but used E wagons seem to sell quickly. I would expect it to be a good time to by an E450 wagon.
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Thank you everyone for your replies! Last week I bought a 2025 E450 “All Terrain” (I hate that name). I am amazed at what a step up it is in many ways compared with my 2019 E450 Wagon (the correct name). I still miss the 2019 as it was a fantastic and completely reliable vehicle. Last time I saw it, it was literally in pieces waiting for me to retrieve my belongings before being sent for salvage. The wagon really did its job in protecting me in the accident and sacrificed many automatic and passive safety features to ensure that I could walk away with minor harm.
Within seconds of being hit, an MB assistant’s voice began talking to me through the speakers. He called the police and ambulance and stayed on the phone with me until they arrived. One discouragement is that he agreed to call a tow truck for me but did not. When my wife arrived at the scene, the police would not call a tow truck because they assessed the car as drivable even though we showed them that the seat belt would no longer retract and the dash was warning about multiple inoperative safety systems.
The police insisted that my wife drive the car home in rush hour traffic with no seat belt and unknown safety problems, saying “well you really don’t have that far to go.” She called MB services and waited 3 hours for a flatbed as I was taken by ambulance to the hospital.
My car had low mileage and I was not planning to buy a new one for 5 more years, but am really enjoying the 2025. Enjoy your MBs for all they offer and have peace of mind that they are well designed to help protect you. It is hard to put a price on that.
Within seconds of being hit, an MB assistant’s voice began talking to me through the speakers. He called the police and ambulance and stayed on the phone with me until they arrived. One discouragement is that he agreed to call a tow truck for me but did not. When my wife arrived at the scene, the police would not call a tow truck because they assessed the car as drivable even though we showed them that the seat belt would no longer retract and the dash was warning about multiple inoperative safety systems.
The police insisted that my wife drive the car home in rush hour traffic with no seat belt and unknown safety problems, saying “well you really don’t have that far to go.” She called MB services and waited 3 hours for a flatbed as I was taken by ambulance to the hospital.
My car had low mileage and I was not planning to buy a new one for 5 more years, but am really enjoying the 2025. Enjoy your MBs for all they offer and have peace of mind that they are well designed to help protect you. It is hard to put a price on that.
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Thank you everyone for your replies! Last week I bought a 2025 E450 “All Terrain” (I hate that name). I am amazed at what a step up it is in many ways compared with my 2019 E450 Wagon (the correct name). I still miss the 2019 as it was a fantastic and completely reliable vehicle. Last time I saw it, it was literally in pieces waiting for me to retrieve my belongings before being sent for salvage. The wagon really did its job in protecting me in the accident and sacrificed many automatic and passive safety features to ensure that I could walk away with minor harm.
Within seconds of being hit, an MB assistant’s voice began talking to me through the speakers. He called the police and ambulance and stayed on the phone with me until they arrived. One discouragement is that he agreed to call a tow truck for me but did not. When my wife arrived at the scene, the police would not call a tow truck because they assessed the car as drivable even though we showed them that the seat belt would no longer retract and the dash was warning about multiple inoperative safety systems.
The police insisted that my wife drive the car home in rush hour traffic with no seat belt and unknown safety problems, saying “well you really don’t have that far to go.” She called MB services and waited 3 hours for a flatbed as I was taken by ambulance to the hospital.
My car had low mileage and I was not planning to buy a new one for 5 more years, but am really enjoying the 2025. Enjoy your MBs for all they offer and have peace of mind that they are well designed to help protect you. It is hard to put a price on that.
Within seconds of being hit, an MB assistant’s voice began talking to me through the speakers. He called the police and ambulance and stayed on the phone with me until they arrived. One discouragement is that he agreed to call a tow truck for me but did not. When my wife arrived at the scene, the police would not call a tow truck because they assessed the car as drivable even though we showed them that the seat belt would no longer retract and the dash was warning about multiple inoperative safety systems.
The police insisted that my wife drive the car home in rush hour traffic with no seat belt and unknown safety problems, saying “well you really don’t have that far to go.” She called MB services and waited 3 hours for a flatbed as I was taken by ambulance to the hospital.
My car had low mileage and I was not planning to buy a new one for 5 more years, but am really enjoying the 2025. Enjoy your MBs for all they offer and have peace of mind that they are well designed to help protect you. It is hard to put a price on that.
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Thank you everyone for your replies! Last week I bought a 2025 E450 “All Terrain” (I hate that name). I am amazed at what a step up it is in many ways compared with my 2019 E450 Wagon (the correct name). I still miss the 2019 as it was a fantastic and completely reliable vehicle. Last time I saw it, it was literally in pieces waiting for me to retrieve my belongings before being sent for salvage. The wagon really did its job in protecting me in the accident and sacrificed many automatic and passive safety features to ensure that I could walk away with minor harm.
Within seconds of being hit, an MB assistant’s voice began talking to me through the speakers. He called the police and ambulance and stayed on the phone with me until they arrived. One discouragement is that he agreed to call a tow truck for me but did not. When my wife arrived at the scene, the police would not call a tow truck because they assessed the car as drivable even though we showed them that the seat belt would no longer retract and the dash was warning about multiple inoperative safety systems.
The police insisted that my wife drive the car home in rush hour traffic with no seat belt and unknown safety problems, saying “well you really don’t have that far to go.” She called MB services and waited 3 hours for a flatbed as I was taken by ambulance to the hospital.
My car had low mileage and I was not planning to buy a new one for 5 more years, but am really enjoying the 2025. Enjoy your MBs for all they offer and have peace of mind that they are well designed to help protect you. It is hard to put a price on that.
Within seconds of being hit, an MB assistant’s voice began talking to me through the speakers. He called the police and ambulance and stayed on the phone with me until they arrived. One discouragement is that he agreed to call a tow truck for me but did not. When my wife arrived at the scene, the police would not call a tow truck because they assessed the car as drivable even though we showed them that the seat belt would no longer retract and the dash was warning about multiple inoperative safety systems.
The police insisted that my wife drive the car home in rush hour traffic with no seat belt and unknown safety problems, saying “well you really don’t have that far to go.” She called MB services and waited 3 hours for a flatbed as I was taken by ambulance to the hospital.
My car had low mileage and I was not planning to buy a new one for 5 more years, but am really enjoying the 2025. Enjoy your MBs for all they offer and have peace of mind that they are well designed to help protect you. It is hard to put a price on that.
maw
