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I agree with your comment but I’ve bought or leased at least 15 vehicles from this dealer and its predecessor and they have always treated me very fairly.
I am going to swap my e450 sedan for the all terrain. My dealer will make it work for me
I know of a couple who do car reviews on YT, and who are from Canada. The lady used to highlight the fact that the E-wagon was no longer sold in Canada, and that to me, was a disgrace. So if MB has reversed that policy, and now sells the AT/wagon in Canada, that's fantastic news for the Canadians, as far as I am concerned. The All-Terrain is a fantastic car, and my 2025 is my 2nd one, with the 1st one being a 2022, which was sold to my brother, and currently has over 70K absolutely trouble-free miles.
I know of a couple who do car reviews on YT, and who are from Canada. The lady used to highlight the fact that the E-wagon was no longer sold in Canada, and that to me, was a disgrace. So if MB has reversed that policy, and now sells the AT/wagon in Canada, that's fantastic news for the Canadians, as far as I am concerned. The All-Terrain is a fantastic car, and my 2025 is my 2nd one, with the 1st one being a 2022, which was sold to my brother, and currently has over 70K absolutely trouble-free miles.
I see, I do like the regular wagon but I mean, if the All Terrain is the only thing we get, it is a good enough compromise. Love the idea of car like driveability with SUV practicality. Perhaps the All Terrain's ground clearance helps in the snow.
I see, I do like the regular wagon but I mean, if the All Terrain is the only thing we get, it is a good enough compromise. Love the idea of car like driveability with SUV practicality. Perhaps the All Terrain's ground clearance helps in the snow.
Sorry for the confusion, regular wagon as in wagon vs all terrain style, I heard Europe gets both body style of the wagon for the W214. Estate and All-Terrain? Is that correct?
True, but the 53 wagon has severely compromised the hatch storage area, due to the hybrid battery. You lose several inches of critical height in the hatch, which makes it useless for my particular use-case, which is to fit my dog-crates in the hatch. In the picture below, the 450 wagon, without the loss of those several inches, just flush-fits the dog-crates (2 German Shepherds), without compromising on the rest of the 5 seats inside the car.....the E53 simply cannot do that.
You lose a single inch in the hatch, and this crate will not fit. If you lose 4 inches, like with the E53, that's a practicality killer.
The picture below, has the 2 German Shepherds in their crates, over a 1000 lbs of additional payload inside the car, 2 passengers (including me, the driver), and the roof-top box containing other lighter stuff. Over 1500 miles of pure blissful travel, portions of which were at sustained 100+mph speeds.
Here are the 2 German Shepherds in their crates. Cannot do this in the E53......and thus for my use-case (and I am sure for several others), the E53's wagon body-style is of utterly no use.
True, but the 53 wagon has severely compromised the hatch storage area, due to the hybrid battery. You lose several inches of critical height in the hatch, which makes it useless for my particular use-case, which is to fit my dog-crates in the hatch. In the picture below, the 450 wagon, without the loss of those several inches, just flush-fits the dog-crates (2 German Shepherds), without compromising on the rest of the 5 seats inside the car.....the E53 simply cannot do that.
You lose a single inch in the hatch, and this crate will not fit. If you lose 4 inches, like with the E53, that's a practicality killer.
Back to SUV for a sec, current GLE 53 is a mild hybrid if only that was an option on the W214 E 53, although I guess moot point because even the GLE 53 (I heard?) will be getting a PHEV powertrain?
Here are the 2 German Shepherds in their crates. Cannot do this in the E53......and thus for my use-case (and I am sure for several others), the E53's wagon body-style is of utterly no use.
I do like the look of the wagon, although I prefer the shooting brake but ... I guess I will take what I can get. Obviously most buy wagons for the driving characteristics and the practicality but some might buy it for the looks as well.
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I see, I do like the regular wagon but I mean, if the All Terrain is the only thing we get, it is a good enough compromise. Love the idea of car like driveability with SUV practicality. Perhaps the All Terrain's ground clearance helps in the snow.
I would not want to lose any bit of additional ground-clearance, than what comes on the All-Terrain (around 6.2"). The body cladding can be easily painted over (in fact, in Europe, my understanding is that they offer the All-Terrain with the body colored cladding), but you cannot add a single inch of ground-clearance, in an Airmatic equipped car, unless you do serious body surgery. I am perfectly happy with the All-Terrain, and this is my second one in a row.
I do like the look of the wagon, although I prefer the shooting brake but ... I guess I will take what I can get. Obviously most buy wagons for the driving characteristics and the practicality but some might buy it for the looks as well.
Agreed. I like the wagon's look. Took this picture a couple of weeks back:
This is a picture of the same crate, in my previous 2022 E450 All-Terrain. The car was sold to my brother, and currently has around 75K of absolutely blissful and trouble-free miles.
The 2022 had additional height in the hatch area (around an inch more than the 2024+ X214), and if I did not have the crate to compare with, I would not have known that they sneakily reduced the hatch height in the X214. But I would not want to lose a single inch of what's already there.
Back to SUV for a sec, current GLE 53 is a mild hybrid if only that was an option on the W214 E 53, although I guess moot point because even the GLE 53 (I heard?) will be getting a PHEV powertrain?
Yes, the current GLE53 still has the mild-hybrid system, along with the souped up 3.0L Inline-6 Turbo. If you want to avoid the PHEV stuff, that's probably the last possible option that's left, with the "53 AMG" tagging. The future versions will have the PHEV stuff tacked on, as a mandatory add-on.
I would not want to lose any bit of additional ground-clearance, than what comes on the All-Terrain (around 6.2"). The body cladding can be easily painted over (in fact, in Europe, my understanding is that they offer the All-Terrain with the body colored cladding), but you cannot add a single inch of ground-clearance, in an Airmatic equipped car, unless you do serious body surgery. I am perfectly happy with the All-Terrain, and this is my second one in a row.
I guess the beauty thing is for those who does find the all terrain too high they can always lower it.
Yes, the current GLE53 still has the mild-hybrid system, along with the souped up 3.0L Inline-6 Turbo. If you want to avoid the PHEV stuff, that's probably the last possible option that's left, with the "53 AMG" tagging. The future versions will have the PHEV stuff tacked on, as a mandatory add-on.
I heard just a few model years from now the GLE 53 will have PHEV. Seems like Europe already have the GLE 53 PHEV in V167 form.
This is a picture of the same crate, in my previous 2022 E450 All-Terrain. The car was sold to my brother, and currently has around 75K of absolutely blissful and trouble-free miles.
The 2022 had additional height in the hatch area (around an inch more than the 2024+ X214), and if I did not have the crate to compare with, I would not have known that they sneakily reduced the hatch height in the X214. But I would not want to lose a single inch of what's already there.
we get it - you don’t like the compromise of losing a few inches of storage space for the hybrid batteries - fair enough for your unique case of filling the back with a specialized crate for 2 big dogs. I have one Cavalier King Charles Spaniel so the E53 for me will still be of some use. I think your point about the space changes for the E53 is made at this point.
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