abhansali

no, I have always wanted the running boards, but they have not been able to add it to the order. But now, they are able to add it. Now the sales guy did say that when the car goes into production, they could remove it if it is not available. So we will see what happens.

jacec

I'm working on custom order with a dealer for the EQS 580 SUV. Going to see if he's able to add the running boards to my order. Will let everyone know once the config is completed tomorrow.

This is my wish list so far: EQS 580X

Exclusive Trim

MBUX Augmented Reality Head-Up Display (Requires
MBUX Hyperscreen)

MANUFAKTUR Alpine Grey Solid

MANUFAKTUR Neva Grey / Biscaya Blue Nappa Leather

MANUFAKTUR Interior Package

21" AMG Multispoke w/ Black Accents (Staggered)

Black / Biscaya Blue Leather

Third Row

Acoustic Comfort Package

Class II Trailer Hitch

Aerodynamic Illuminated Running Boards

Energizing Air Control Plus with HEPA Filtration

Winter Package

Heated Windshield

Illuminated Mercedes-Benz Star

All-Season Floormats, Black Rubber 6-Pack

Dashcam

abhansali

I don't think you can get the trailer hitch or the staggered wheels with black accents if you get the 3rd row seats.

jacec

You are right on the hitch and third row.
Also could not order Manufaktur paint or interior.

hitmonlee

I'm hoping this is temporary and will be fixed soon, otherwise it's so dumb to call the sedan EQS Sedan and the SUV EQS.

jacec

I would really like to do a custom order slot selecting the interior DD1 (Manufaktur interior MANUFAKTUR Neva Grey / Biscaya Blue Nappa Leather and Manufaktur Alpine Grey. Dealership is telling they are constrained and can not order. Is it not possible to order Net Star and your build will sit in queue for when they become available? I’m not in a rush …

tanger

I’m in the same boat, dealer is seeing if existing Nov build slot can be changed to Alpine Grey, but haven’t heard back yet. Still debating if the MANUFAKTUR grey interior is too light. Right now wife likes the black/sable brown but I like the biscaya blue. Need to go see in person I guess.

BenjaminKohl

Looking for more info on tires. From what I can tell, the MO right now are 275/45 square summer tires on 2 row vehicles and 275/45 front 285/45 rear all season tires on three row vehicles? Also, which ones are run flats vs which ones are noral? Thanks

Utopia Texas

I think MB is getting tires wherever available. I asked on the EQS forum what brand tires were arriving on their sedans and the tire brands were across the board.
https://www.iseecars.com/car/mercede...-eqs-tire-size

Eaton

New order guide posted with significant updates.

10/17/2022

• Added changes for MY23.5 to What's New section*. Please note, MY23.5 changes take place for vehicles with 2D December production or later, and changes can be made in Netstar starting 11/1.

10/10/2022

• Some EQS SUVs were built without the Mercedes-Benz Star Pattern Grille due to a supplier constraint, and are equipped with credit code D9Q. Without the Star Pattern Grille, the front grille is in high gloss black without the small embedded star pattern.

09/28/2022

• Tech Specs added: MPGe, kWh/100mi, Curb Weights, Ground Clearance, Off-Road Info, Additional Exterior Dimensions, Vehicle Length, Battery Capacity

*MY23.5 Changes

• Note about changes:
  • Changes take place for cars with 2D December production dates or later.
  • Dealers can edit orders with 2D December or later production to reflect MY23.5 changes on November 1st.
• MANUFAKTUR Alpine Grey (956) paint becomes orderable
• Executive Rear Seat Package (DB5), part of Pinnacle Trim (DY2), now requires MBUX Interior Assist Rear (78B) and Adaptive Rear Compartment Lighting (236)
• AMG Line Exterior (DG1) becomes orderable on EQS 450+ SUV
• 20" Five-Spoke Aero Wheels w/ Black Claddings (29R) becomes orderable

LasVegas_89135

Thank you for the updated Order Guide

LasVegas_89135

I was comparing the 9/27 to the 10/22 Order Guide. The 107.8 kWh High Voltage Battery is now listed as 108.4 kWh.

Eaton

10/24/2022

• 69U Neva Grey Microfiber Headliner is constrained until March 2023 production

abhansali

This is why I'm still wondering about the level 2 max charging rate. In the current DOG it is showing as 9.6khw (40a). but online multiple sites is saying 11kwh (48a)

jacec

Good point, and the 9.6 is just WAY WAY too slow.

abhansali

In reality 9.6kwh is fine for overnight charging and I may even charge slower for the battery health, but Lucid for example can charge at L2 19.2kwh (80A) with a Clipper Creek home charger and DC at 300kwh (EQS can only do 200kwh) so it is much faster than the EQS. At that speed, if you have the L2 charger at work, you can go to work and plugin in the morning and be close to 80% charged by lunch. It is interesting that MB has not put in the fastest "cutting edge" technology when it comes to the charging of the battery.

jacec

It's really not, think about arriving at a hotel at 12 AM on a road trip at 7% and needing to leave next day at 6:30/7 AM. (which I just did this week at my lake house where I have 48amp Tesla charger), I was only at 70% by the time I wanted to depart. In my Tesla (or if we can get the 11+kWH) it would have been at 100% doing that short charge cycle.

abhansali

Good point...I have a feeling there maybe some "paid upgrade" to OTA upgrade the charging rate. I have watched multiple video reviews that say the charge rate is 11kwh and optional upgrade to 22kwh. Now we don't have that here in the US, but if they are saying it in video reviews, the press must have got that info from MB themselves so maybe something is coming in the future. So I at least installed a 60A circuit at home so I can charge at 48A with my chargepoint, if it is supported by the EQS now or later.

JoeMa

You can send 11 kW into your EQS but the onboard charger will only use 9.6 kW. And while the battery may be capable of higher AC charging, the engineers may have found that higher charging rates were negatively affecting the battery so they settled on a slower, safer AC charging limit. But that's just my thinking.

We've drained the battery down to 28% and charged it back to 80% in 11 hours and added 180 miles of range. It takes us three days of driving to go from 80% to less than 30% state of charge so we don't recharge it every night. We usually recharge every 3 days. In fact, it would be better to lower the rate of charge to less than 9.6 kW if your normal usage would allow it and would promote better battery health. Even a 6 kW or 8 kW rate could work for many owners.

LasVegas_89135

I may have read somewhere that the 11kWh (with 22kWh option) charge rate was for the EQS Sedan.

I was very disappointed to learn that my new (on order) $150k car will charge slower (I home charge only) than my $60k Volvo or my 5 1/2 year old Tesla.

abhansali

So the more I study this, it seems like in the US Merc has limited the charging to 40a (9.6kw) but in Europe I found the brochure online for 48a (11kw) with optional 22kw charging. Seems like this works in Europe because 3 phase circuits are more common (most countries are 220v base and they understand the proper wiring and safety).

I think the reason for Merc to keep it at 40a vs 48a in the US is safety. Most people use a nema 14-50 or 6-50 plug and this is rated for 50a non-continuous and 40a continuous current like an EV pulls at night. So if they had allowed the cars to charge at 48a and some one plugs in a Chargepoint home charger to a nema 14-50 plug and incorrectly configures it to 48a charging during setup then you have created a fire risk.

The reason I am researching this is because my brother in law has a Taycan and a friend of his (also with a Taycan) had his nema 14-50 socket actually melt. Porsche has recently done a recall/software update I believe to reduce the max capability of their mobile charger to under 40a for this reason.

I have another friend that had an electrician (maybe not properly licensed) come and install a nema 14-50 plug with a 60amp breaker so he can charge his Ford mach-e at 48amp using their charger from Ford with the plugin cord. I just told him that this is really a fire risk and that he should have it hardwired and ensure the wiring used is the proper #6 gauge.

this is a real fire safety concern and since MB can not guarantee people wire their chargers properly, I think they've done the next best thing and limited the charging to 40a which is the safest. No other explanation on why they would not support 48a or 50a charging like most other newer EVs

jacec

Although all mobile chargers can limit the amps
it’s the Germans not trusting the Americans

makes me appreciate Teslas. I don’t give a f—k attitude.

LasVegas_89135

I have some advice for NEMA 14-50 receptacle owners or potential owners. As a Tesla owner for 5.5 years, I have read a lot of EV related forum posts. One of the most important things that I learned was to have a industrial grade Hubbell 9450a NEMA 14-50 installed

My guess is abhansali's friend, who's receptacle melted, was due to using a cheap version (I see many on Amazon for $10). The industrial versions are made to handle a continuous sustained draw of 40amps. Upon having my cheap receptacle replaced with an industrial version, I was able to compare the two. The difference was very noticeable.

JoeMa

LasVegas_89135

The sad thing (for me) is that I'm building a new house and for the first time I'm going to have a 60amp circuit (to charge at 48amps) with a hard wired ChargePoint (my previous 2 houses had a NEMA 14-50 in a 50amp circuit, charging at 40amps). I now buy a $150k car and I can't charge beyond 40amps. Even my wife's $60k Volvo Recharge can charge at 48amps. I'm disappointed to have this First World Problem.