Omission of Self-Driving Tech
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Omission of Self-Driving Tech
With BlueCruise and SuperCruise out in the wild and with Level 3 Autonomous Driving in the EQS sedan and upcoming EQE, I wonder why the omission of any self-driving software in the EQS SUV. At its price point it seems like something that should have been included.
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I understand that Level 3 is awhile off, but to my knowledge, the EQS SUV doesn't have Level 2 hands-free capabilities, maybe I'm wrong and just don't know how to activate it, but I've never been able to take my hands off the wheel, nor has Mercedes ever really advertised this capability. Probably missing something, I'm coming from a Mach-E where BlueCruise allowed you to set the cruise control and take your hands off the wheel...
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Level 3 system by Mercedes has already been approved in Germany.
You need "Drive Pilot" option and it will cost you quite a bit as it needs extra Lidar sensors.
As for hands off driving, my current BMW has it, but it is very strict on where your eyes are looking at while it is active. Anything more than a few seconds not looking directly at the road, it would complain.
I am also surprised that Mercedes is not offering any hands free driving at any speed. BMW now has hands free driving at highway speed as well as traffic jam in North America.
You need "Drive Pilot" option and it will cost you quite a bit as it needs extra Lidar sensors.
As for hands off driving, my current BMW has it, but it is very strict on where your eyes are looking at while it is active. Anything more than a few seconds not looking directly at the road, it would complain.
I am also surprised that Mercedes is not offering any hands free driving at any speed. BMW now has hands free driving at highway speed as well as traffic jam in North America.
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Cadillacs super cruise is only level 2 just like the EQS SUV. These companies hype their systems to make consumers believe they are more than what they are but Mercedes is currently the only company in the United States to have approval to sell a level 3 autonomous driving system, and I believe only New Mexico is currently on board with California coming soon. It will be a long road for states to except level 3 so I wouldn’t look for there to be broad acceptance for the next several years. and when Mercedes eventually offers it to customers in states that approve level 3, it will be a costly option.
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I understand that Level 3 is awhile off, but to my knowledge, the EQS SUV doesn't have Level 2 hands-free capabilities, maybe I'm wrong and just don't know how to activate it, but I've never been able to take my hands off the wheel, nor has Mercedes ever really advertised this capability. Probably missing something, I'm coming from a Mach-E where BlueCruise allowed you to set the cruise control and take your hands off the wheel...
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I understand that Level 3 is awhile off, but to my knowledge, the EQS SUV doesn't have Level 2 hands-free capabilities, maybe I'm wrong and just don't know how to activate it, but I've never been able to take my hands off the wheel, nor has Mercedes ever really advertised this capability. Probably missing something, I'm coming from a Mach-E where BlueCruise allowed you to set the cruise control and take your hands off the wheel...
I know the latest steering wheels now have capacitive sensors in the rim part to sense if your hands are touching the wheel and maybe it has become less tolerant.
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I don't know about the EQS, but I have handsfree driving in my 2019 C63S via the Active Steering Assist. On divided highways it allows me to keep my hands off the steering wheel for up to 30 seconds. In very slow stop&go traffic I can keep my hands off for minutes at the time even.
For true hands free driving like that implemented by BMW, you can keep your hands off indefinitely. There is no time limit.
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My understanding is that is only available via coding mod. Legally BMW can't offer this from the factory in the USA. GM's Super Cruise is currently the closest you can legally get, but it only allows handsfree driving on curated stretches of highway. General handsfree driving is illegal in the USA and most any other places.
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And highway hands free assist has been available since last year. 7 series already has this. The iX will get this as of March/April production.
No coding required.
It is legal as this is an assist feature, and it has cameras to monitor your eye movement. You cannot take your eyes off the road while the system is active.
That's why I am wondering why Mercedes doesn't offer anything similar to the function I have been using for 4 years.
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No, hands free traffic jam assist has been officially available since 4 years ago. My 2019 X5 had this.
And highway hands free assist has been available since last year. 7 series already has this. The iX will get this as of March/April production.
No coding required.
It is legal as this is an assist feature, and it has cameras to monitor your eye movement. You cannot take your eyes off the road while the system is active.
That's why I am wondering why Mercedes doesn't offer anything similar to the function I have been using for 4 years.
And highway hands free assist has been available since last year. 7 series already has this. The iX will get this as of March/April production.
No coding required.
It is legal as this is an assist feature, and it has cameras to monitor your eye movement. You cannot take your eyes off the road while the system is active.
That's why I am wondering why Mercedes doesn't offer anything similar to the function I have been using for 4 years.
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You can drive endlessly in the EQS SUV on highways, just by giving the steering wheel a little jiggle every 10 or 15 seconds. True autonomous driving is years away.
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Sure, but we can both agree that's not the same as BlueCruise or SuperCruise. Although, I did find out the other day that the EQS will make lane changes for you. Which is nice!
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I thought the EQS has those (IR?) sensors to sense your eye though so you don't have to even touch it? Like in the W223, (the 6 dots)
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Well the 6 dots isn't actually where the sensor is, my bad but it is a rectangle thing. https://images.carexpert.com.au/resi...S580-L-128.jpg
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That is true, the older style MB wheels you have to tilt it every once a while, these ones you just give it a gentle touch reminding the car that you are there.
I thought the EQS has those (IR?) sensors to sense your eye though so you don't have to even touch it? Like in the W223, (the 6 dots)
I thought the EQS has those (IR?) sensors to sense your eye though so you don't have to even touch it? Like in the W223, (the 6 dots)
I did not read this anywhere, this is just what I have experienced in my 580 Sedan.
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I understand that Level 3 is awhile off, but to my knowledge, the EQS SUV doesn't have Level 2 hands-free capabilities, maybe I'm wrong and just don't know how to activate it, but I've never been able to take my hands off the wheel, nor has Mercedes ever really advertised this capability. Probably missing something, I'm coming from a Mach-E where BlueCruise allowed you to set the cruise control and take your hands off the wheel...
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That just gives you more time between touches. If you are not looking straight ahead the "hold wheel" warning will pop up after 10-15secs. If you are looking straight ahead the message only pops up every 45secs.
I did not read this anywhere, this is just what I have experienced in my 580 Sedan.
I did not read this anywhere, this is just what I have experienced in my 580 Sedan.
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That just gives you more time between touches. If you are not looking straight ahead the "hold wheel" warning will pop up after 10-15secs. If you are looking straight ahead the message only pops up every 45secs.
I did not read this anywhere, this is just what I have experienced in my 580 Sedan.
I did not read this anywhere, this is just what I have experienced in my 580 Sedan.
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Tjdehya, I see that you have some knowledge regarding the steering wheel nags. Do you know where the sensors on the steering wheel are located? My issue is that I prefer to drive holding the wheel in the 8:00 and 4:00 positions, rather than the 10:00 and 2:00 that the steering wheel nag screen shows. I am constantly getting the warning that I'm not holding the wheel, when in fact I'm hold it towards the bottom.
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According to this video it's around the entire rim, but just to add, neither 8 and 4, nor 10 and 2 is the correct way to hold a steering wheel. The correct way is 9 and 3. Anybody who had to ever catch a sliding car will know the consequence of incorrectly holding it at 8/4 or 10/2 vs the proper 9/3 position.
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Yep, that's the other reason. You don't want your hands at 10 and 2 when the airbag deploys. 10 and 2 was for some reason taught in the USA. Nowhere else really. 9 and 3 has always been the proper way.
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I see I guess I will throw in Canada too since that is how we are taught here too.
