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Old 03-25-2024, 05:15 PM
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Finally, I am officially a "tree-hugger"... NOT; Still owned 2 big V8 S430 and S500- 20 years aging but still running like new ... well winter-beaters correctly.
It's a very good deal to resist... non-disclosure please. It's very base EQS580; good enough for me. Will get some pics later.
I am still learning about how to get DC-Fast charging from Electrify America yet; Perhaps tomorrow. It's come with a level-1 & 2 home charging kits. I will try level-1 tonight to see how paintful this litlle guy can do.
Any tips... sugestions are welcomes.
TIA
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Congratulations! I have no idea why car companies bother with Level 1 charging set ups on vehicles with huge batteries. I think you will be surprised at how few miles you will have gained overnight…..
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Utopia Texas is spot on. Charging at level one is not going to do the job. You will need to invest in a level two charger and have it installed in your home. You’ll need a 50 amp breaker to supply enough power to the charger. Have it professionally installed by an electrician so you don’t create a fire hazard in your home. I went with a ChargePoint Home Flex charger, very well-made.

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Thanks guys. I will look at the MB-box level 2 charger that came with the car. Of course, I will definitely install it in the next few weeks.
So far, it's winter here in MN, I put 150 miles after got delivery with 80% charge; Dealer recommended 80% charged every time!!! With 2 hours level-2 charged at the shoping mall, my car is showing remaining 38%. Let's see how much more with 10 hours level-1 charge tonight... LMAO tomorrow morning!!!
What is the procedure to charge the SUV at Electrify America for 30 minutes? TIA
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Thanks guys. I will look at the MB-box level 2 charger that came with the car. Of course, I will definitely install it in the next few weeks.
So far, it's winter here in MN, I put 150 miles after got delivery with 80% charge; Dealer recommended 80% charged every time!!! With 2 hours level-2 charged at the shoping mall, my car is showing remaining 38%. Let's see how much more with 10 hours level-1 charge tonight... LMAO tomorrow morning!!!
What is the procedure to charge the SUV at Electrify America for 30 minutes? TIA
We charge two EV's using a Level 1 charger. We alternate use between the vehicles. We are retired and do not use a lot of battery each day, but it has worked well for us for over a year.
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I believe that as the global EV infrastructure evolves, the small "importance" of being able to charge from a normal household socket will diminish. I occasionally travel through very rural & remote locations and the ability to perform charging this way is very important to me, though I hope I never actually have to do it. I view it as a bit like carrying a small, empty gas can in the trunk --- just in case.
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I don't put a lot of miles on our EQS 580 SUV so I can normally go 5 to 7 days between charges. Once I get below 30% charge remaining, I charge to 90% (not 80% as MB recommends) over night. I rarely use DC Fast Chargers as there are none in my area. As for the MB Level 2 Wall Box, that will work perfectly for you.
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Congratulations! I have no idea why car companies bother with Level 1 charging set ups on vehicles with huge batteries. I think you will be surprised at how few miles you will have gained overnight…..
It's useful for trickle charging the 12V battery. That's about it.
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Originally Posted by phillip04S430
Finally, I am officially a "tree-hugger"... NOT; Still owned 2 big V8 S430 and S500- 20 years aging but still running like new ... well winter-beaters correctly.
It's a very good deal to resist... non-disclosure please. It's very base EQS580; good enough for me. Will get some pics later.
I am still learning about how to get DC-Fast charging from Electrify America yet; Perhaps tomorrow. It's come with a level-1 & 2 home charging kits. I will try level-1 tonight to see how paintful this litlle guy can do.
Any tips... sugestions are welcomes.
TIA
I hope you got a great deal if your purchased it. Dealers have plenty on hand. Not selling well as expected. Enjoy.
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The result is in: Level1 charger gave me from 37% to 48% in 10 hours over night; It's doable for me if I don't drive it daily. It's bad weather here today, so it's staying home. I will try EA DC fast charging tommorow. I set the max. state of charge to 90% for now. Thanks for all good and experienced comments.
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Thanks dudley07726
I have been watching EV industry progressing for more than 10 years since the 1st generation of the Nissan Leaf and BMW I3. I almost jumped in the BMW I3 with a giveaway deal way back then; But the range was almost impractical for my daily requirements especially in MN winter. Anyway, fastforward... this is almost a giveaway deal for 2023 EQS as you mentioned and I am a sucker for any good deal out there. It's my actual learning curve to experience this technological marvel SUV. So far, 1 week of ownership, I am still thinking "WOW, I am actually owning and driving this futuristic SUV"... and I am so happy to wait a long time for this EV.
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Moreover, my long-time Service Advisor and MB Salesman have advised me NOT to jump in the 1st 2022 EQS; Reasoning that too many new techs and the infastructure charging NOT ready. Anyway, my salesperson is desperately to move these 2023 leftover EVs out the door and I am ready NOW... Thanks for all the inputs.
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Originally Posted by phillip04S430
Thanks dudley07726
I have been watching EV industry progressing for more than 10 years since the 1st generation of the Nissan Leaf and BMW I3. I almost jumped in the BMW I3 with a giveaway deal way back then; But the range was almost impractical for my daily requirements especially in MN winter. Anyway, fastforward... this is almost a giveaway deal for 2023 EQS as you mentioned and I am a sucker for any good deal out there. It's my actual learning curve to experience this technological marvel SUV. So far, 1 week of ownership, I am still thinking "WOW, I am actually owning and driving this futuristic SUV"... and I am so happy to wait a long time for this EV.
Curious what your range will be in the winter, especial in MN. We know EV’s don’t like the cold.
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If you have a 30 amp dryer outlet near the garage you can charge four times (4X) faster without having to install anything. 240 volts X 24 amps instead of 120 volts X 12 amps. And I actually get more like 250v late on a Sunday night/Monday morning, a very decent 6 kW.

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I use a Parkworld Y splitter to avoid abusing the dryer outlet though since they're not designed for a lot of plugging/unplugging.


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Originally Posted by phillip04S430
Finally, I am officially a "tree-hugger"... NOT; Still owned 2 big V8 S430 and S500- 20 years aging but still running like new ... well winter-beaters correctly.
It's a very good deal to resist... non-disclosure please. It's very base EQS580; good enough for me. Will get some pics later.
I am still learning about how to get DC-Fast charging from Electrify America yet; Perhaps tomorrow. It's come with a level-1 & 2 home charging kits. I will try level-1 tonight to see how paintful this litlle guy can do.
Any tips... sugestions are welcomes.
TIA
I got my EQS580SUV in November, but took my first long road trip about 2 weeks ago. I had previously set up my charging account with Mercedes me connect. I let the Nav schedule my charging stops limiting the chargers to electrify America DC chargers only. I had 3 charging stops during the round trip. At one stop I had to wait about 10 minutes for an available charger. The experience was seamless - you pull into the parking spot, plug the charger into your car, the charger recognizes your car automatically, and tells you that the first 30 minutes are free. you push the screen on the charger to start charging. There is a timer on the screen. The only thing that you need to do is watch your time, as it will not automatically shut off at 30 minutes. I missed the 30 minutes by minute or 2 at one stop, so my credit card was charges 51cents for the extra electricity over 30 minutes (No Big Deal). In all it was a pleasant experience, as my aging body ended the break to walk around / use the facilities anyway and I would have stopped even in a gasoline vehicle.
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Thanks m3422c and I will try EA later and will report my experience with the fast DC charge. So far, I plugged level1 to charge last night and confirmed that from 48% to 58% in 9 hours. Level2 charge at the Mall from 43% to 53% in 2 hours a few days ago. Weather in MN just turned colder and snowy for couple more days; still driving my beaters.
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I use a level 2 charger (Chargepoint) that the dealer gave me as an incentive. It's set to only charge for a maximum of 6 hours overnight (during the lowest time of use rate period). I usually get a charge level increase of 35-45% (depends on charge level at start of charging as the charge rate slows once you have reached 80%). I do charge to 100%. We had one cold snap for about a week this year (temps below 20 F), and I did notice abut an 8% drop in range. BTW my regular range has been about 310-315 miles on a 100% charge (MB literature says 285, but the car says 310-315), and with temps above 25 F appears to be accurate. I use Strong Recuperation, use A/C or heating set to 72 F- 74 F, heavy acceleration about 30% of the time (I am an emergency responder) and significant idle time about 25% of the time - so I have not modified my driving habits to increase range. Highway driving is usually at the flow of traffic (65-75 MPH). This is my 4th MB (3rd S), and is the smoothes most comfortable one to date. Loving it.
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Congrats, Phillip. You and I are in the same boat when it comes to waiting for EV tech timing and a suck for a good steal. About the Level 1 charge, it's a joke. 1 hour of charge will give you around 1-2 miles of travel. I can walk and run faster than that, but I can't carry 6K lb with me at that rate. I don't travel out of town with this car, so infrastructure is a none issue for me.

Crito, the y adapter to the dryer is a good temporary solution until Phillip can get a dedicated outlet or hardwire. Depending on the age of your home, becareful not to run both appliance at the same time. They do make one that automatically switches off one and turns on the other for people who have 2 EVs but one outlet. I can't remember the name of the company, but it was on sale for ~$175.
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Thanks MB37.
Just curious how did you set up with EA or Chargepoint accounts to get free 30 minutes DC fast charge? So far I am NOT able to charge at either. TIA.
Did you have to add payment to Chargepoint account? My dealer told me that my SUV is set up and ready for 30 minutes free charge from MB; Not working so far.
I will call helpline for assist later.
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Thanks MB37.
Just curious how did you set up with EA or Chargepoint accounts to get free 30 minutes DC fast charge? So far I am NOT able to charge at either. TIA.
Did you have to add payment to Chargepoint account? My dealer told me that my SUV is set up and ready for 30 minutes free charge from MB; Not working so far.
I will call helpline for assist later.
We had the salesperson at the dealer set it up. They used our phone, the brown chargepoint card, our credit card and the salesmanship phone. That made it possible to drive up to EA, plug in, charge for 30s. If we charged for longer than 30 minutes, our credit card would be charged. A year after purchase, this all stopped working. We could still charge at EA by providing a DIFFERENT credit card (it rejected the one we set up with as "declined," but that card was not actually being declined at our bank). All of this meant that we lost our Mercedes free charging. We went to the Santa Rosa CA dealership. This was NOT our purchasing dealership. The sales department tried to fix multiple times. Nothing worked. We were then told to call Chargepoint. They said it should work. Nope. We finally went back to our SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO purchasing dealership. This dealership sells to young, rich techie millionaires and billionaires from Silicon Valley. They have young, hip-dressed, diverse sales persons, unlike our Santa Rosa dealership where the sales persons are relatively elderly and tend to be unenthusiastic about EV's and the current dealership business model as Mercedes evolves. The SFO sales staff knew immediately what to do to. They had to use their computer network to redo our setup. They used our brown Chargepoint card that came with the car, our credit card and our phone, and got it set up right away. This was after our paying for our charging at EA for three months. Go to the right dealership. It may have to be the selling dealership. Call the South SFO dealership if all else fails. They are the bomb!

We think the problem was that our MBUX subscription expired before we renewed it, and that caused us to turn into a pumpkin, ala Cinderella story. It probably would not have happened if we had renewed in a timely way.

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Today 3/30/24: Trying to charge at Chargepoint station with DC fast charge... No luck... Waiting to authorize Chargepoint seemed connecting and charging for 30 seconds... and failed. System Reported it's failed at this location, reconnect or move to another station. Trying 5 times, 10 minutes wasted. I gave up. I will go back to the dealer on Monday and have them set it up again. Still frustrated... Plug and Play handshake... NOPE.
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I do all my charging at home from my dryer outlet now but a year ago when I first got the car had the same problem. As I recall had to delete my CC info in the Mercedes mE app and re-add it. Then plug-and-charge worked fine, at EA anyways. I have to use the little card thingy just to unlock Chargepoint handles so have no idea if plug-and-charge works there.
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Solved Finally, Got it charged at Electrify America Stations. I watched some instruction clips from some youtubers and realized what I did wrong as I was approaching EA and parked the car, turn it off, look at the station instructions: 1. plug the cable to my SUV, 2. pay selection, 3. charger initializes and connecting to the car. But, actually, this is the correct MBUX setups: 1. Navigate by GPS to selected EA Stations, 2. approaching and back it up an available charge station #, 3. recognize station #, 4. MBUX screen show all station #s and the infos of EA, 5. swipe to select station # you are about to charge and select it, 6. get out and plug the cable to SUV, 7. wait for connecting and bingo... charging. While it's getting charged, you monitor the time and percentage is charging 'cause only first 30 minutes are FREE. When I got there, my SUV was showing 31% and set up to 80%, 26 minutes later 80% filled and MBUX automatically stop the charge. I got out and unplugged and close the lid. I looked at the station report that $0.00 and 26 minutes fast. I am very happy camper now knowingly that the dealer setup OK. Thanks all members helping and so far 400 miles with slow level 1 at home and level 2 at the Shopping Mall. I will install MB box level 2 on the wall soon when the weather warmer. ? Inside or outside the garage? Pro and con either way? TIA

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