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It's true that obvious troll is obvious (the emoji choice is definitely a nice touch), and the usual Internet wisdom is to not feed the trolls. But I like to give a little pushback to force them to fully expose their ridiculous nature. At the very least, anyone who stumbles across the thread will see they are worth ignoring.
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Lol...I can guess the two. They've gone into hiding since their core belief that EV=bad and ICE=good theory has been tested, and it is so terrible that the awful communist government ever gave out EV subsidies. It has become abundantly clear that the US spends trillions (over time) fighting wars over oil and keeping the global oil market flowing and thereby subsidizing the true price of gasoline. Without oil, how much less worried would we have been for decades over the middle east? Finally, for the all the nonsense they provide about EV's, they should be thanking us for driving EV's and helping drive down the need for gasoline helping to keep their prices lower. Way off topic here, but last thing I'll say is instead of demonizing green energy, we are so in need of more energy of all types that an 'everything' approach makes sense.
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Lol...I can guess the two. They've gone into hiding since their core belief that EV=bad and ICE=good theory has been tested, and it is so terrible that the awful communist government ever gave out EV subsidies. It has become abundantly clear that the US spends trillions (over time) fighting wars over oil and keeping the global oil market flowing and thereby subsidizing the true price of gasoline. Without oil, how much less worried would we have been for decades over the middle east? Finally, for the all the nonsense they provide about EV's, they should be thanking us for driving EV's and helping drive down the need for gasoline helping to keep their prices lower. Way off topic here, but last thing I'll say is instead of demonizing green energy, we are so in need of more energy of all types that an 'everything' approach makes sense.
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Lol...I can guess the two. They've gone into hiding since their core belief that EV=bad and ICE=good theory has been tested, and it is so terrible that the awful communist government ever gave out EV subsidies. It has become abundantly clear that the US spends trillions (over time) fighting wars over oil and keeping the global oil market flowing and thereby subsidizing the true price of gasoline. Without oil, how much less worried would we have been for decades over the middle east? Finally, for the all the nonsense they provide about EV's, they should be thanking us for driving EV's and helping drive down the need for gasoline helping to keep their prices lower. Way off topic here, but last thing I'll say is instead of demonizing green energy, we are so in need of more energy of all types that an 'everything' approach makes sense.
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Lol...I can guess the two. They've gone into hiding since their core belief that EV=bad and ICE=good theory has been tested, and it is so terrible that the awful communist government ever gave out EV subsidies. It has become abundantly clear that the US spends trillions (over time) fighting wars over oil and keeping the global oil market flowing and thereby subsidizing the true price of gasoline. Without oil, how much less worried would we have been for decades over the middle east? Finally, for the all the nonsense they provide about EV's, they should be thanking us for driving EV's and helping drive down the need for gasoline helping to keep their prices lower. Way off topic here, but last thing I'll say is instead of demonizing green energy, we are so in need of more energy of all types that an 'everything' approach makes sense.
The US imports very little oil and is a net exporter of oil. Crude oil amounts to about half of the real cost of gasoline at the pump. Six years ago, the cost was about 25% of the price at the pump and the taxes were more than that. The US does not subsidize the price of gasoline.
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Subsidies can take many different forms. A few I can name off the top of my head:
- There's the lack of pricing-in the negative externalities (Higher rates of respiratory disease in the population, Environmental effects of NOx & particulates pollution, Increased CO2 concentration in the atmosphere and all that implies, etc).
- There's the roads and highways maintenance being paid for by our general taxes because the gas tax has been stagnant for decades, thus not covering the true cost of driving.
- Of course, there's the significant investments in time, international goodwill, people, and capital that have gone into trying to maintain a semi-stable Middle East (granted, we may have done that anyway because of other geopolitical interests, but keeping the oil market functioning has also been part of the motivation for US involvement in the region).
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It takes a lot of oil and oil products to produce electricity. Every conversion of energy from one form to another losses a bit in the conversion. Even so, my next car will be electric.
The US imports very little oil and is a net exporter of oil. Crude oil amounts to about half of the real cost of gasoline at the pump. Six years ago, the cost was about 25% of the price at the pump and the taxes were more than that. The US does not subsidize the price of gasoline.
The US imports very little oil and is a net exporter of oil. Crude oil amounts to about half of the real cost of gasoline at the pump. Six years ago, the cost was about 25% of the price at the pump and the taxes were more than that. The US does not subsidize the price of gasoline.
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No, it doesn't. Take a look at the current generation for California: https://www.caiso.com/todays-outlook/supply
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My point is that oil is basically not used for electrical power generation anywhere, and gas is used primarily for Peaker plants, so also not used often or for long periods. Hydro, solar, wind, make up the bulk of power generation in many states, with nuclear an additional baseline generation capacity in some. We also have a fair amount of battery operating both as Peaker plants and to match generation to demand - as you said, solar and wind are not constant but are quite predicable. You might have noticed that some of that demand during the day is battery charging - it reverses and the stored renewable energy is used in the evening, overnight, and during demand peaks. Pumped hydro also is used in some locations for the same reason, but battery has the advantage that it is basically instant power - even a gas/hydro plant takes time to spin up. Got to put those used EV batteries to use somewhere after they come out of the cars after all - Tesla power walls come from old cars, remember?
California has so much solar that during the day there is a surplus that is exported or stored in batteries/hydro systems. With homeowners adding local batteries the demand on the grid flattens out a bit during the evening. Why sell to the power company during the day when electricity is cheap when you can locally store it and use it when the rates are high in the evening?
California has so much solar that during the day there is a surplus that is exported or stored in batteries/hydro systems. With homeowners adding local batteries the demand on the grid flattens out a bit during the evening. Why sell to the power company during the day when electricity is cheap when you can locally store it and use it when the rates are high in the evening?
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Electricity in Florida is primarily generated with gas. Florida is expanding its nuclear and natural gas power infrastructure while phasing out oil and coal.
- Natural gas: 195,311 (72.9%)
- Nuclear: 30,588 (11.4%)
- Solar: 24,925 (9.31%)
- Coal: 10,185 (3.80%)
- Biomass: 3,260 (1.22%)
- Petroleum: 1,218 (0.45%)
- Hydroelectric: 165 (0.06%)
- Other: 2,152 (0.80%)
