Soulman

This sounds fantastic but probably years away when it comes to a green light from State Regulatory agencies.

https://media.daimler.com/marsMediaS...l?oid=49584142

Utopia Texas

I really like the newer adaptive cruise control in some vehicles but have no interest in autonomous self driving cars. It would take the pleasure I get from the actual drive. Twice a year I take a routine trip across Texas for 12 hours straight with just fuel and fast food stops and still am not interested in such a system. Your mileage may vary.....😊

stealth.pilot

Doesn't sound that special to me. 60 kmh limit!

JoeMa

Because Tesla owners drive fast and wild!

stealth.pilot

No because even when driving in traffic, we usually cross the 40mph mark. Maybe you do all your driving under 40mph, but I do not. Also I don't see how this is anything different from the Traffic Jam Assist with Drive Pilot in my 2020 GLE.

JoeMa

Our 456 hp X7 50i goes just a bit over 40 mph at times.

Radman991

Sounds more like stop and go traffic where it would be useful. But don’t hold your breath, I highly doubt it will be available in the US anytime soon.

JoeMa

Our X7 only has a level 2 system but handles stop-and-go traffic very well. It's a welcome feature when you're in traffic or a construction zone. One would think and expect the level 4 system in the EQS will be an improvement.

Radman991

I doubt it will be a level 4 system. To my knowledge, level 4 is driverless vehicles. Level 3 maybe, but that may not make it to the US.

JoeMa

According to this article it is level 4: https://www.daimler.com/products/pas.../eqs-2021.html

Radman991

JoeMa:
You are correct. It would be level 4 for the parking feature. That would be cool. However, not sure they are going to add that feature to US models. I was thinking of everyday driving down the road. Level 4 ain’t happening there any time soon. But it does sound exciting for what the EQS will hopefully have. The self driving feature is one of the reasons I have gone for the S class and look forward to improvements on the new EQS.

JoeMa

The new S Class and the EQS will both have level 4 software and hardware but its full capabilities will be limited for the US market due to current regulations. Tesla appears to ignore many of those same regulations with their Autopilot software, especially their beta releases. Expect Mercedes to be far more cautious.

Soulman

I'm guessing even after the State regulators sign off on level 4, there is an extended term where the Mercedes Drive Pilot has to go through several years of Beta testing. Tesla is still going through betta testing and bugs keep showing up even in their latest FSD Beta 9.

Radman991

My nephew who owns a Tesla Y just texted me “Tesla came out with a $199/month full self driving subscription”.

syswei

IF the parking facility has AVP infrastructure. Don't hold your breath for that to be common!

bnzvett

I have a model S and I just logged into my account. I also saw the subscription option.

Full Self-Driving Capability

$5,000

• Navigate on Autopilot
• Auto Lane Change
• Autopark
• Summon
• Traffic Light and Stop Sign Control

Coming Soon

• Autosteer on city streets

Soulman

Their claim is the Drive Pilot will allow the driver to carry on secondary activities like surfing the internet and reviewing emails. Your GLE 2020 model might be similar but its not close to being on the same field as the 2022 Drive Pilot. Unless the 2022 is just a smoke and mirror bravado like you would hear from E Musk.

stealth.pilot

Seems overpriced to me. It is a beta product which doesn't work. At best it is a glorified cruise control which requires constant supervision, and might kill you.

The annoying thing about Tesla is that many features which are part of the normal driver assistance package on other cars like automatic lane change and self parking are part of the $10k FSD option on Tesla, so the standard Autopilot is pretty weak compared with Mercedes offerings. I refuse to pay $10k or $199 a month for self parking, automatic lane change, and an FSD system which doesn't work and has long death count.

stealth.pilot

In traffic jam assist on the GLE I also can review emails as it does everything very well up to 37 mph. This one may be better at higher speeds, but with either system under current regs you are legally required to maintain control of your vehicle at all times.

boltonblue

Mercedes has to answer to the TUV. They are far more stringent.

Radman991

I agree, I don’t think it’s worth $10k as well. Can’t remember what I paid for drivers assistance package on my 18 S class, but nowhere near that price. My nephew was able to get the FSD package on his Tesla for free due to a promotion.