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Old Nov 3, 2021 | 08:48 PM
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Will the car come with a portable charger as most other EVs do? If not, has anyone researched good alternatives for such a charger?
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Old Nov 4, 2021 | 04:11 PM
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The EQS includes an onboard AC to DC converter, which supports charging from an AC power source at up to 9,600 watts.

You need a way to get power into the vehicle - which you are calling a "portable charger"

Mercedes sells a very expensive emergency charging cord that plugs into a standard 120-volt power outlet and will charge at around 1,500 watts.
You can also purchase a 40AMP 240 volt home charging station to achieve the maximum AC charging rate of 9,600 watts.

Or you can charge your EQS at just about any public DC charger.
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Old Nov 4, 2021 | 06:13 PM
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I don't what "expensive" is as a reference but I ordered the MB emergency charging cord with my EQS and it was $250. My car will be a daily driver but I only average 90 miles a week and expect it will work fine for my minimal usage.
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Old Nov 4, 2021 | 06:28 PM
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Tesla, Porsche and Audi all come with portable 220 units. This is helpful if you live in an area like I do where charging locations aren't around every corner or if you want to head off the highway system and away from charging infrastructure. It makes it more convenient to charge at a relatives using their dryer receptacle or at a hotel if they have an outside 220 outlet. If the EQS doesn't come with one, I am considering one of these units:
Mustart Mustart
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Morec Morec
. The 110 emergency charging cord is virtually worthless (except if your battery is dead).
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Old Nov 4, 2021 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jackinhs
Tesla, Porsche and Audi all come with portable 220 units. This is helpful if you live in an area like I do where charging locations aren't around every corner or if you want to head off the highway system and away from charging infrastructure. It makes it more convenient to charge at a relatives using their dryer receptacle or at a hotel if they have an outside 220 outlet. If the EQS doesn't come with one, I am considering one of these units: Mustart or Morec. The 110 emergency charging cord is virtually worthless (except if your battery is dead).
Personally I think it doesn't matter. I used my Tesla 240v unit as a wall mounted charger in my garage. I don't drive around with it. It is very hard to find a 240v outlet. Most of the time you find a 240v outlet it is already attached to an Ev charger and you can use that.

If for some inane reason you feel the need to weigh down your car with a 240V charger, you can get them on Amazon for $300. I have installed one of these in my parents garage in case I need to charge up there. It works very well. I charged my Porsche with it several times. The Porsche was a plug in hybrid with a range of 23 miles so it needed charging away from home. I have never had to charge my Tesla away from home.

https://smile.amazon.com/stores/page...0&ref_=ast_bln
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Old Nov 5, 2021 | 08:25 AM
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Actually 240 outlets are everywhere. Some innovative EVers have found that RV parks are great alternative charging way stations in states through the upper Midwest where there are few charging station options. If you intend to use the EQS as a daily, go anywhere vehicle, not limited by lack of charging infrastructure off the beaten path, then a mobile charger will be your best friend. Plugshare includes RV sites in their route planning. First photo shows what the upper Midwest looks like with J1772 stations only. Second photo layers in 240 outlets. And, the third photo shows what would happen if you relied strictly on DC fast chargers.



For everyday driving, you don't need to pack a portable charger. If you plan to actually use your vehicle for all purposes, I would recommend one be in your trunk when you depart on vacation.
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Old Nov 5, 2021 | 05:44 PM
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Tesla vehicles come with a mobile connector that has an adaptor that allows you to connect to a standard 120 V household outlet (NEMA 5-15). This will charge the vehicle at about 3 miles per hour. You can also purchase an adaptor for the connector that will connect to a 240 V plug (like a standard household electric clothes dryer, NEMA 14-50). This will charge the Tesla at about 20-30 miles per hour.

I had an electrician install a NEMA 14-50 plug outside my garage and purchased an additional connector that is longer and stays plugged into the outside plug. I typically drive about 50 miles roundtrip per day, so I just come home and plug in and within a couple of hours I'm back to where I was. Theoretically, I could charge from 0 to max (about 315 miles) in 10 - 11 hours at home overnight. I suspect that the EQS will have similar options so I will just purchase a longer version of the EQS mobile connector for a NEMA 14-50 and just charge each vehicle on alternate days. By the way, I never charge to 100% at home, I only charge to about 70%. This is suppose to be better for battery life. Occasionally I will go to a super charger to take advantage of the free charging for life I received when I purchased my Model S and I will charge to 85-90% at that time.
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Old Nov 18, 2021 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by jackinhs
Will the car come with a portable charger as most other EVs do? If not, has anyone researched good alternatives for such a charger?
Do you mean an EVSE? If that’s the case, the EQS doesn’t come with one. Your dealer might include a 120V Emergency EVSE but that one is worthless in most cases (Unless you drive around 20 miles a day).

As for a good mobile EVSE, avoid the cheap one’s on Amazon. This include brands like Mustart, Lectron, or any EVSE that doesn’t have UL certification. Reports from other car forums have described damaging their charger ports. https://reddit.com/r/BoltEV/comments...k_charge_port/

So what to get?

Clipper creek sells a mobile 32A mobile EVSE for $484 (https://store.clippercreek.com/amazi...-fast-32-14-50). The device has UL certification and Energy star too. But it’s backordered for 14 weeks (As of November 18, 2021).

Grizzl-E has a mobile 40a EVSE called the Grizzl-E Mini. It’s $499 and they are not accepting any new orders until next year (https://grizzl-e.com/product-category/usa/mini/)

Ford sells an EVSE that comes with the Mustang Mach E. It’s UL Listed and it’s probably your best bet for getting an EVSE soon. It’s part number: 10C830 on Ford’s part website (https://parts.ford.com/shop/en/us/el...ion-13359649-1). Around $570. But the price fluctuates depending on the dealership. If you have the time call your local Ford’s dealer and tell them this number (LJ9Z*10C830*A) and see how much they are charging for.

Like this Ford dealer in Rochester NY sells it for $399 (before shipping): https://www.fordpartsonsale.com/oem-...IFJlc3VsdHM%3D




(Side note, only Tesla, GM, Ford, Porsche, and Audi include 220V 32A EVSE’s with their cars. This is ridiculous that Mercedes didn’t do that and I hope in future versions they rectify the problem)
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Old Nov 18, 2021 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by jackinhs
Will the car come with a portable charger as most other EVs do? If not, has anyone researched good alternatives for such a charger?
If you still have your Tesla Mobile Charger, get the Tesla Tap adapter http://www.umc-j1772.com/index.php?r...tegory&path=17
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Old Nov 18, 2021 | 01:00 PM
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Mercedes has an optional code B53 110 volt charger for $250. It only adds about 3-5 miles per hour which is fine for me overnight since I don't drive far and only use it 3 times per week. Not surprisingly, they are now constrained. My car was built 3 weeks ago, I hopes it in the trunk.
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Old Nov 18, 2021 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by wings1969
Mercedes has an optional code B53 110 volt charger for $250. It only adds about 3-5 miles per hour which is fine for me overnight since I don't drive far and only use it 3 times per week. Not surprisingly, they are now constrained. My car was built 3 weeks ago, I hopes it in the trunk.
It's a ripoff. For a luxury product, Mercedes should be including an EVSE. Audi, Porsche, Ford, and GM all include a 32 amp EVSE with purchase. I mean Ford offer's their 32 amp EVSE (with a 120v/240v adapter) separately for around $400 through the dealership network.

Just to make sure you're confident with your range, I would advise you to go to https://abetterrouteplanner.com/ and calculate your daily trips and make sure you you'll be happy with 110v.

I'm confident the 110v EVSE will be included. I was in a demo car last week and it was included.

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Originally Posted by ddruker
The EQS includes an onboard AC to DC converter, which supports charging from an AC power source at up to 9,600 watts.

You need a way to get power into the vehicle - which you are calling a "portable charger"

Mercedes sells a very expensive emergency charging cord that plugs into a standard 120-volt power outlet and will charge at around 1,500 watts.
You can also purchase a 40AMP 240 volt home charging station to achieve the maximum AC charging rate of 9,600 watts.

Or you can charge your EQS at just about any public DC charger.
This is very disappointing. I have installed a level 2 charger that will charge up to 48 amps (11kw). That would have cut 3 hours off a full charge. I live in the boonies, the only DC chargers here are Tesla. Furthermore, Mercedes clearly states that you should Use DC chargers sparingly to increase battery life.
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Originally Posted by jackinhs
Actually 240 outlets are everywhere. Some innovative EVers have found that RV parks are great alternative charging way stations in states through the upper Midwest where there are few charging station options. If you intend to use the EQS as a daily, go anywhere vehicle, not limited by lack of charging infrastructure off the beaten path, then a mobile charger will be your best friend. Plugshare includes RV sites in their route planning. First photo shows what the upper Midwest looks like with J1772 stations only. Second photo layers in 240 outlets. And, the third photo shows what would happen if you relied strictly on DC fast chargers.



For everyday driving, you don't need to pack a portable charger. If you plan to actually use your vehicle for all purposes, I would recommend one be in your trunk when you depart on vacation.
Regarding the map showing no chargers in " flyover" America there are some 50 kw ones. There is still one segment in Montana that would a challenge unless you stayed overnight and used a 220v charger to fully charge. My guess is that within a year or so even this EV desert will have enough DC fast chargers to "drive through" too.
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