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Old 02-15-2022, 04:46 PM
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Just use automatic regen. It chooses the best regen mode by using the radar. It unerringly chooses the best mode for traffic conditions. It also has a practically normal pedal feel. I loved it. Though the car gives you multiple choices they could have just used auto mode since it works amazingly well. If they had done so, you wouldn't have all the reviwers whinning about how weird the pedal feels on max regen mode, duh! There are 3 other modes to choose from, which feel just fine!
Ok, have been playing with this for several weeks now. Gotta say, I do not like Auto regen at all. Feels realy wierd, like someone else is controlling the car. Not my thing at all. I drive 75% of the time in normal recuperation mode, and love it. However, when I am in traffic (and San Antonio has a lot of that during morning and evening rush!), I am using strong recuperation mode, and like it a lot. It is essentially one pedal driving, with strong braking if you back off completely, and modulated braking, depending on how much you back off the accelerator. So, in heavy traffic, you can maintain a safe distance easily, without touching the brakes, and generate some electricity at the same time. Easy to switch into it when you hit traffic, and out of it when it clears., using the paddles This is my preferred method. YMMV.
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Ok, have been playing with this for several weeks now. Gotta say, I do not like Auto regen at all. Feels realy wierd, like someone else is controlling the car. Not my thing at all. I drive 75% of the time in normal recuperation mode, and love it. However, when I am in traffic (and San Antonio has a lot of that during morning and evening rush!), I am using strong recuperation mode, and like it a lot. It is essentially one pedal driving, with strong braking if you back off completely, and modulated braking, depending on how much you back off the accelerator. So, in heavy traffic, you can maintain a safe distance easily, without touching the brakes, and generate some electricity at the same time. Easy to switch into it when you hit traffic, and out of it when it clears., using the paddles This is my preferred method. YMMV.
What you describe is entirely correct, in auto the radar decides the amount of regen. I liked that! It was only a short drive but it felt appropriate to the conditions, thus felt very natural to me. Obviously that impression might change when I get to play with the modes after more experience.
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What you describe is entirely correct, in auto the radar decides the amount of regen. I liked that! It was only a short drive but it felt appropriate to the conditions, thus felt very natural to me. Obviously that impression might change when I get to play with the modes after more experience.
Yea, I tried to like it, but just didn't. It was kind of like autonomous driving, and that is totally not what I want in a car, now or ever. Anyway, just my thoughts about it, others may disagree....and that is fine. I love this car, can't wait for you to get yours and share your impressions. It is just fabulous!
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Yea, I tried to like it, but just didn't. It was kind of like autonomous driving, and that is totally not what I want in a car, now or ever. Anyway, just my thoughts about it, others may disagree....and that is fine. I love this car, can't wait for you to get yours and share your impressions. It is just fabulous!
That's why there are options a very good thing. Im looking forward to "playing" with all the goodies🤙
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Got mixed feelings about the intelligent regen - a little too aggressive on occasion (if vehicle in front of you), not enough on others (tight curve coming up it does not really slow down). Normal regen is virtually identical with driving an ICE vehicle: just a bit of engine brake when you lift the foot. No regen is as good as the Taycan coasting - equivalent to coasting in an ICE vehicle while in neutral.

Regardless of which one you like it is a pity you cannot have a selection stay put - you have to re-engage preferred regen mode evert time you start, as it defaults to Normal.
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Can any owners comment on the Drivers Assistance system on the EQS. How good is drive pilot on the highway?
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I found it quite effective. Not much to compare it with, but much better than my '14 S550. MB still wants your hands on the wheel and will tell you if you haven't manually turned the wheel in a set time.
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Can any owners comment on the Drivers Assistance system on the EQS. How good is drive pilot on the highway?
I would be surprised if its any different from my 2021 GLS. Which in turn, is not much different to my 2017 E43 but more annoying since it beeps more often if you are just going straight. One change though, in my E sometimes the system disengages the steering portion without beeping (the green steering light goes yellow) and will drift without you knowing while the latest version will beep in that situation. The capabilities of the system are virtually the same.The new much touted new self driving at slow speed on the highway system use lidar (laser) It is not yet available anywhere. It will be many years before it makes it to the USA given regulation issues. In Germany it has been "certified" but count on a couple more years before it shows on any vehicle sold to the public. Think on the daptive headlight system, its been available in the EU for at least 5 years, its still hasn't been approved by NHSTA. All our cars have it, but its disabled. For the self driving system you need a totally separate system, the LIDAR so I doubt it will be equipped to any car in NA. Finally 6 sure it will cost another additional bundle for those who choose it in Germany. For the foreseable future it will be a "safety gadget" for those in the EU with very deep pockets. LIDAR is very, very expensive.
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Regardless of which one you like it is a pity you cannot have a selection stay put - you have to re-engage preferred regen mode evert time you start, as it defaults to Normal.
This and the lack of remembering the last driver profile are annoying and should be very simple fixes. Since we're talking about wishes I'd also like an option to not have to turn on/off the car with the start-stop button.
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Originally Posted by stealth.pilot
Can any owners comment on the Drivers Assistance system on the EQS. How good is drive pilot on the highway?
I've only had my EQS for a few days, came from driving Teslas for the last five years including the FSD beta. The EQS drive pilot on highways work really well in my limited experience. Feels very confident, holds the distance to the car in front better than Tesla. My only complaint is that once it veered too close to the car on the right but it only happened once.
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This and the lack of remembering the last driver profile are annoying and should be very simple fixes. Since we're talking about wishes I'd also like an option to not have to turn on/off the car with the start-stop button.
Don't hold your breath many around here have been complaining about that issue for....forever. Merecedes simply will not do it. My guess is some obscure "lawyerese" or technical one. All MB cars revert to "normal" when you turn them off. Same thing with the idiotic profiles. A good example of a much better way is Acura. For deacades, their profiles are encoded to the FOB; thus, as soon as you open the door, all the settings set for that key are applied. It's no mysterious rocket science thing.
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Originally Posted by c4004matic
Don't hold your breath many around here have been complaining about that issue for....forever. Merecedes simply will not do it. My guess is some obscure "lawyerese" or technical one. All MB cars revert to "normal" when you turn them off. Same thing with the idiotic profiles. A good example of a much better way is Acura. For deacades, their profiles are encoded to the FOB; thus, as soon as you open the door, all the settings set for that key are applied. It's no mysterious rocket science thing.
That's disappointing...
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Originally Posted by c4004matic
Don't hold your breath many around here have been complaining about that issue for....forever. Merecedes simply will not do it. My guess is some obscure "lawyerese" or technical one. All MB cars revert to "normal" when you turn them off. Same thing with the idiotic profiles. A good example of a much better way is Acura. For deacades, their profiles are encoded to the FOB; thus, as soon as you open the door, all the settings set for that key are applied. It's no mysterious rocket science thing.
MB with MBUX keeps the profile info (climate, display, audio, colors, seat, mirror, etc preferences) but unfortunately reverts to the comfort mode with includes the start/stop on ICE cars. This shouldn't matter with the EQS though...
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Originally Posted by stealth.pilot
Can any owners comment on the Drivers Assistance system on the EQS. How good is drive pilot on the highway?
It is very good, but does require a hand on the wheel. However, I personally don't like many these systems, and have turned off the steering assist function. However, the lane assist remains active, and I like that, except when I deliberately hit the apex of a corner a little tight, and it tries to steer me away from the apex. Am debating turning that off, too. I actually prefer to drive the car myself, but lane assist can help in traffic if you get a little distracted.

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Originally Posted by hlothery
It is very good, but does require a hand on the wheel. However, I personally don't like many these systems, and have turned off the steering assist function. However, the lane assist remains active, and I like that, except when I deliverately hit the apex of a corner a little tight, and it tries to steer me away from the apex. Am debating turning that off, too. I actually prever to drive the car myself, but lane assist can help in traffic if you get a little distracted.
I use all the nannies except the lane assist, it's overly sensitive. I really dislike the steering vibrating every time I get close to a lane marker. Maybe when I get old, sleepy, and can't really see.......😁
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I use all the nannies except the lane assist, it's overly sensitive. I really dislike the steering vibrating every time I get close to a lane marker. Maybe when I get old, sleepy, and can't really see.......😁
I'm old, but not sleepy, and see just fine if my glasses are on. Generally don't like nannies. Turned all of them off on my BMWs. The lane assist is a nice reminder when I'm distracted by the MBUX's vast capabilities. And the steering bump helps then, too. That's what makes me reluctant to turn it off, but the jury is still out. YMMV.
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I enjoy driving the car too, but on twisty roads. On the highway it is a little bit boring, so I use the drive assist by default. I find myself less tired than without it.

In terms of comparison with Tesla autopilot, I would say exactly as good as Tesla when there are good road markings. Tesla is better in poor conditions (sun straight ahead, poor lane markings). Have not tried it in rain - Tesla is really impressive there. Lane change with the Mercedes is smoother than Tesla. It also projects on the road the lane you are going into - which is kind of neat, but not particularly useful. MB does not have full autopilot. Actually, my wife's Model 3 does not have it either even if we paid for it 3 years ago....
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Had a little time today, and an unusual high temp in Minnesota - we got to 49F today. The consumption improves linear with temperature. Today I got an estimated total range of 294 miles, usage was 374 Wh/mi. The other interesting part is the total battery available - this is higher at higher temperature (estimated 109 kWh at 49F vs 101 kWh at -10F). I think it will be easy to break over 300 miles in summer, and probably even 350.

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svp6, what size wheels do you have? Was the test with all season tires? Oh crap! never mind. I didn’t look at the graphs closely enough. My questions are answered.

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Winter tires - Pirelli Scorpion. Can't wait for @avilent to report his experience with the 19" winter setup, I bet there will be a 5-10% improvement over the 21".
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Finally got the car back with tint, PPF and chrome delete. I get that not everyone likes chrome delete but to me it makes the car look sportier which is the look I was going for without (hopefully) making it look tacky. Here are a couple of pics.



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Looks great!
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Beautiful on white too - very elegant contrast with the wheels. Congratulations!
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My EQS is at OCDetailing right now getting PPF, 70% 3M Crystalline and blackout just on the window trim. I like the look of the chrome on the lower portion of the car, and I noticed that the AMG has a similar look.
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Post some pictures - congratulations on your new car!


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