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06-05-2022, 10:22 PM
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Dont take your foot off the accelerator
If you take your foot off it gets jerky. Simply modulate the "gas pedal" to decelerate progressively. Remember to turn off creep mode or the car will not stop completely. Once you get the hang of it you essentially dont have to use the brake under normal conditions. I still think it takes to much attention for highway driving but its good for city driving. Intelligent mode is stiil my favorite, regen when you need it no regen when you don't.
If you take your foot off it gets jerky. Simply modulate the "gas pedal" to decelerate progressively. Remember to turn off creep mode or the car will not stop completely. Once you get the hang of it you essentially dont have to use the brake under normal conditions. I still think it takes to much attention for highway driving but its good for city driving. Intelligent mode is stiil my favorite, regen when you need it no regen when you don't.
06-23-2022, 03:04 PM
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Dont take your foot off the accelerator If you take your foot off it gets jerky. Simply modulate the "gas pedal" to decelerate progressively. Remember to turn off creep mode or the car will not stop completely. Once you get the hang of it you essentially dont have to use the brake under normal conditions. I still think it takes to much attention for highway driving but its good for city driving. Intelligent mode is stiil my favorite, regen when you need it no regen when you don't.
If you take your foot off it gets jerky. Simply modulate the "gas pedal" to decelerate progressively. Remember to turn off creep mode or the car will not stop completely. Once you get the hang of it you essentially dont have to use the brake under normal conditions. I still think it takes to much attention for highway driving but its good for city driving. Intelligent mode is stiil my favorite, regen when you need it no regen when you don't.
06-23-2022, 03:54 PM
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I've been trying to use this method for a couple weeks and I cannot say it's helpful. I must be doing something wrong. I set it to D Auto but I cannot figure out how the foot on the accelerator helps. I find that in order to stop, I have to apply the break frequently. Once I slow down enough by applying the break, the car will come to a stop if there is another vehicle stopped ahead. I also have the creep mode off. So, what am I doing wrong?
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06-23-2022, 04:45 PM
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It doesn't work on D auto since in auto in that setting regen varies. It only works on full regen (left paddle). Its no for everyone since its not how we are accostumed to drive naturally. It seems like you are using a golf cart since as soon as you partiallyvrelase the accelerator the car starts to slow down. If kind of feels like you are accelerating without releasing the parking brake. On the highway, for me, its kind of fatiguing but its actually handy in stop and go traffic. As time goes by, for general use, I am basicly using normal, it just feels like a regular brake system under all conditions.
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06-24-2022, 03:38 PM
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It doesn't work on D auto since in auto in that setting regen varies. It only works on full regen (left paddle). Its no for everyone since its not how we are accostumed to drive naturally. It seems like you are using a golf cart since as soon as you partiallyvrelase the accelerator the car starts to slow down. If kind of feels like you are accelerating without releasing the parking brake. On the highway, for me, its kind of fatiguing but its actually handy in stop and go traffic. As time goes by, for general use, I am basicly using normal, it just feels like a regular brake system under all conditions.
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06-25-2022, 12:26 AM
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06-26-2022, 08:01 PM
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incline; I use normal recuperation, except for braking in traffic. I switch back and forth to my S560, and never even think about or feel any difference in braking:
06-28-2022, 01:06 PM
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I am an ardent fan of one-pedal driving. That having been said, I would not recommend it when using the cruise control, especially when used with navigation or the traffic sign recognition function. At least where I live, the car has too many speed limit errors where it slows the car down without warning or reason. As an example, when driving on the freeway at the posted 55mph with the cruise control engaged, the car will arbitrarily slow down because it thinks the speed should be 35mph, even though it isn't. The big issue here is that when this happens with full regenerative engaged (i.e., one-pedal driving), the car decelerates dangerously abruptly causing a hazard for the vehicle behind me. In my Tesla this was termed "phantom braking" and it was the primary reason for my dumping that car after almost getting rear ended twice.
To alleviate the rapid deceleration when the cruise control goes on the fritz, I now have to deactivate regenerative braking when using cruise control. That way, when it does try to slow down the car because it thinks the speed limit is 20mph (randomly) or misreads the 35mph speed limit sign from the frontage road next to my 55mph lane on the freeway, it will just coast down to the wrong speed limit and I can recover by stepping on the accelerator pedal and re-engage the correct speed in the cruise control.
This is such a pain in all semi-autonomous vehicles that think they know better than the driver. Since this has happened in both my old Tesla and my new EQS, I'm thinking I just have to get used to it and lament how my $30k Kia Niro PHEV never had this problem....As a side note, both the Tesla and the EQS seem to make the same mistakes in the same places so I'm wondering if they use the same map database with erroneous speed limits.
On the bright side, I do like how my EQS adjusts the speed limit automatically when it gets the speed limit correct, like when the posted limit changes from 55mph to 60mph and the car speeds up accordingly without my intervention.
But more on point, one-pedal driving is great if and when the cruise control is not engaged.
To alleviate the rapid deceleration when the cruise control goes on the fritz, I now have to deactivate regenerative braking when using cruise control. That way, when it does try to slow down the car because it thinks the speed limit is 20mph (randomly) or misreads the 35mph speed limit sign from the frontage road next to my 55mph lane on the freeway, it will just coast down to the wrong speed limit and I can recover by stepping on the accelerator pedal and re-engage the correct speed in the cruise control.
This is such a pain in all semi-autonomous vehicles that think they know better than the driver. Since this has happened in both my old Tesla and my new EQS, I'm thinking I just have to get used to it and lament how my $30k Kia Niro PHEV never had this problem....As a side note, both the Tesla and the EQS seem to make the same mistakes in the same places so I'm wondering if they use the same map database with erroneous speed limits.
On the bright side, I do like how my EQS adjusts the speed limit automatically when it gets the speed limit correct, like when the posted limit changes from 55mph to 60mph and the car speeds up accordingly without my intervention.
But more on point, one-pedal driving is great if and when the cruise control is not engaged.
06-28-2022, 01:35 PM
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I am an ardent fan of one-pedal driving. That having been said, I would not recommend it when using the cruise control, especially when used with navigation or the traffic sign recognition function. At least where I live, the car has too many speed limit errors where it slows the car down without warning or reason. As an example, when driving on the freeway at the posted 55mph with the cruise control engaged, the car will arbitrarily slow down because it thinks the speed should be 35mph, even though it isn't. The big issue here is that when this happens with full regenerative engaged (i.e., one-pedal driving), the car decelerates dangerously abruptly causing a hazard for the vehicle behind me. In my Tesla this was termed "phantom braking" and it was the primary reason for my dumping that car after almost getting rear ended twice.
To alleviate the rapid deceleration when the cruise control goes on the fritz, I now have to deactivate regenerative braking when using cruise control. That way, when it does try to slow down the car because it thinks the speed limit is 20mph (randomly) or misreads the 35mph speed limit sign from the frontage road next to my 55mph lane on the freeway, it will just coast down to the wrong speed limit and I can recover by stepping on the accelerator pedal and re-engage the correct speed in the cruise control.
This is such a pain in all semi-autonomous vehicles that think they know better than the driver. Since this has happened in both my old Tesla and my new EQS, I'm thinking I just have to get used to it and lament how my $30k Kia Niro PHEV never had this problem....As a side note, both the Tesla and the EQS seem to make the same mistakes in the same places so I'm wondering if they use the same map database with erroneous speed limits.
On the bright side, I do like how my EQS adjusts the speed limit automatically when it gets the speed limit correct, like when the posted limit changes from 55mph to 60mph and the car speeds up accordingly without my intervention.
But more on point, one-pedal driving is great if and when the cruise control is not engaged.
To alleviate the rapid deceleration when the cruise control goes on the fritz, I now have to deactivate regenerative braking when using cruise control. That way, when it does try to slow down the car because it thinks the speed limit is 20mph (randomly) or misreads the 35mph speed limit sign from the frontage road next to my 55mph lane on the freeway, it will just coast down to the wrong speed limit and I can recover by stepping on the accelerator pedal and re-engage the correct speed in the cruise control.
This is such a pain in all semi-autonomous vehicles that think they know better than the driver. Since this has happened in both my old Tesla and my new EQS, I'm thinking I just have to get used to it and lament how my $30k Kia Niro PHEV never had this problem....As a side note, both the Tesla and the EQS seem to make the same mistakes in the same places so I'm wondering if they use the same map database with erroneous speed limits.
On the bright side, I do like how my EQS adjusts the speed limit automatically when it gets the speed limit correct, like when the posted limit changes from 55mph to 60mph and the car speeds up accordingly without my intervention.
But more on point, one-pedal driving is great if and when the cruise control is not engaged.
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06-28-2022, 02:11 PM
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I am an ardent fan of one-pedal driving. That having been said, I would not recommend it when using the cruise control, especially when used with navigation or the traffic sign recognition function. At least where I live, the car has too many speed limit errors where it slows the car down without warning or reason. As an example, when driving on the freeway at the posted 55mph with the cruise control engaged, the car will arbitrarily slow down because it thinks the speed should be 35mph, even though it isn't. The big issue here is that when this happens with full regenerative engaged (i.e., one-pedal driving), the car decelerates dangerously abruptly causing a hazard for the vehicle behind me. In my Tesla this was termed "phantom braking" and it was the primary reason for my dumping that car after almost getting rear ended twice.
To alleviate the rapid deceleration when the cruise control goes on the fritz, I now have to deactivate regenerative braking when using cruise control. That way, when it does try to slow down the car because it thinks the speed limit is 20mph (randomly) or misreads the 35mph speed limit sign from the frontage road next to my 55mph lane on the freeway, it will just coast down to the wrong speed limit and I can recover by stepping on the accelerator pedal and re-engage the correct speed in the cruise control.
This is such a pain in all semi-autonomous vehicles that think they know better than the driver. Since this has happened in both my old Tesla and my new EQS, I'm thinking I just have to get used to it and lament how my $30k Kia Niro PHEV never had this problem....As a side note, both the Tesla and the EQS seem to make the same mistakes in the same places so I'm wondering if they use the same map database with erroneous speed limits.
On the bright side, I do like how my EQS adjusts the speed limit automatically when it gets the speed limit correct, like when the posted limit changes from 55mph to 60mph and the car speeds up accordingly without my intervention.
But more on point, one-pedal driving is great if and when the cruise control is not engaged.
To alleviate the rapid deceleration when the cruise control goes on the fritz, I now have to deactivate regenerative braking when using cruise control. That way, when it does try to slow down the car because it thinks the speed limit is 20mph (randomly) or misreads the 35mph speed limit sign from the frontage road next to my 55mph lane on the freeway, it will just coast down to the wrong speed limit and I can recover by stepping on the accelerator pedal and re-engage the correct speed in the cruise control.
This is such a pain in all semi-autonomous vehicles that think they know better than the driver. Since this has happened in both my old Tesla and my new EQS, I'm thinking I just have to get used to it and lament how my $30k Kia Niro PHEV never had this problem....As a side note, both the Tesla and the EQS seem to make the same mistakes in the same places so I'm wondering if they use the same map database with erroneous speed limits.
On the bright side, I do like how my EQS adjusts the speed limit automatically when it gets the speed limit correct, like when the posted limit changes from 55mph to 60mph and the car speeds up accordingly without my intervention.
But more on point, one-pedal driving is great if and when the cruise control is not engaged.
The speed limit assist works for the most part but I have had very dangerous results from it in both my EVs.
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06-28-2022, 05:54 PM
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I am an ardent fan of one-pedal driving. That having been said, I would not recommend it when using the cruise control, especially when used with navigation or the traffic sign recognition function. At least where I live, the car has too many speed limit errors where it slows the car down without warning or reason. As an example, when driving on the freeway at the posted 55mph with the cruise control engaged, the car will arbitrarily slow down because it thinks the speed should be 35mph, even though it isn't. The big issue here is that when this happens with full regenerative engaged (i.e., one-pedal driving), the car decelerates dangerously abruptly causing a hazard for the vehicle behind me. In my Tesla this was termed "phantom braking" and it was the primary reason for my dumping that car after almost getting rear ended twice.
To alleviate the rapid deceleration when the cruise control goes on the fritz, I now have to deactivate regenerative braking when using cruise control. That way, when it does try to slow down the car because it thinks the speed limit is 20mph (randomly) or misreads the 35mph speed limit sign from the frontage road next to my 55mph lane on the freeway, it will just coast down to the wrong speed limit and I can recover by stepping on the accelerator pedal and re-engage the correct speed in the cruise control.
This is such a pain in all semi-autonomous vehicles that think they know better than the driver. Since this has happened in both my old Tesla and my new EQS, I'm thinking I just have to get used to it and lament how my $30k Kia Niro PHEV never had this problem....As a side note, both the Tesla and the EQS seem to make the same mistakes in the same places so I'm wondering if they use the same map database with erroneous speed limits.
On the bright side, I do like how my EQS adjusts the speed limit automatically when it gets the speed limit correct, like when the posted limit changes from 55mph to 60mph and the car speeds up accordingly without my intervention.
But more on point, one-pedal driving is great if and when the cruise control is not engaged.
To alleviate the rapid deceleration when the cruise control goes on the fritz, I now have to deactivate regenerative braking when using cruise control. That way, when it does try to slow down the car because it thinks the speed limit is 20mph (randomly) or misreads the 35mph speed limit sign from the frontage road next to my 55mph lane on the freeway, it will just coast down to the wrong speed limit and I can recover by stepping on the accelerator pedal and re-engage the correct speed in the cruise control.
This is such a pain in all semi-autonomous vehicles that think they know better than the driver. Since this has happened in both my old Tesla and my new EQS, I'm thinking I just have to get used to it and lament how my $30k Kia Niro PHEV never had this problem....As a side note, both the Tesla and the EQS seem to make the same mistakes in the same places so I'm wondering if they use the same map database with erroneous speed limits.
On the bright side, I do like how my EQS adjusts the speed limit automatically when it gets the speed limit correct, like when the posted limit changes from 55mph to 60mph and the car speeds up accordingly without my intervention.
But more on point, one-pedal driving is great if and when the cruise control is not engaged.
07-06-2022, 02:37 PM
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I have been a real fan of OPD using strong regen in traffic for some time. Stealth.pilot and c4004matic have told me of the wonders of intelligent regen, but I have resisted it because it just felt weird to me. But, I have been trying it more and more lately. On open road, in cruise control, I am starting to really like intelligent regen. I used it all the way to the golf course and back today in traffic and on the open road. I got 3.6mpkWh on the way out to the course, which has an 800ft elevation increase, over 24 miles. And I got 4.6mpkWh on the way home. That is just slightly better, both ways, than I usually get using strong regen in traffic and OPD. So, I think I am becoming a convert. Wow....never would have believed that. Love the info I get from this forum. Thanks, guys.
07-06-2022, 02:45 PM
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I am following in hlothery's foot steps - or should that be tire marks - and working on the intelligent regen option. My concern in both normal and intelligent modes is the use of the brakes to completely stop. I have over 100k miles in Tesla driving and never replaced brake pads. Will the savings in mpkWh justify brake pad costs over time?
07-06-2022, 03:38 PM
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I am following in hlothery's foot steps - or should that be tire marks - and working on the intelligent regen option. My concern in both normal and intelligent modes is the use of the brakes to completely stop. I have over 100k miles in Tesla driving and never replaced brake pads. Will the savings in mpkWh justify brake pad costs over time?
07-06-2022, 04:50 PM
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If you like one pedal and no regen but dont want to be flipping modes, auto mode is for you! I have found it is very good choosing the mode most appropriate for the traffic situation. Its all about offering a variety of settings to so you can chhose your own favorite. I use mostly normal since I live an area with very little traffic and it simulates what I have been doing for 40 years best. When I go to Chicago I go full regen.
