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What 14-50 and 20-30 Charging Cables Do You Carry?
I plan on some trips where regular commercial chargers are not available. I will have access to 50 Amp RV Park plugs which are the 14-50 type and 30 Amp electric dryer plugs which are the 10-30 type. Since I have read the EQS does not come with charging cords what do you use and a source to buy please. Looking for something more manageable than the home chargers.
Last edited by Utopia Texas; 08-23-2022 at 10:51 PM.
I plan on some trips where regular commercial chargers are not available. I will have access to 50 Amp RV Park plugs which are the 14-50 type and 30 Amp electric dryer plugs which are the 10-30 type. Since I have read the EQS does not come with charging cords what do you use and a source to buy please. Looking for something more manageable than the home chargers.
Ford mobile charger. Dual 110 or 220 (1450) most 220v plugs available for charging EV' are 1450 (heavy duty). You should also get a TeslaTap mini which allows you to use any tesla destination charger. With such a setup you can level2 charge anywhere plus you can do 110 in a pinch if there is no other option. Ive used the Reslatap once just for tge expirience since I really didn't need to, works like a charm! The Ford charger likewise but, its only 32 amp, not bad and fine for a mobile one, but certainly and overnight proposition. I really wish MB had equipped the car with an 11kw charger 9.5 is OK and good for smaller batteries but more is ALWAYS better!
After a bit of research these are what I determined to be the minimum to be sure I could charge just about anywhere. Starting with a NEMA 6-50 male plug on a portable level 2 charger. one end of each adapter has the NEMA 6-50R and then
the following plugs::
NEMA 14-50P.
NEMA 14-30P
NEMA L14-30P
NEMA 10-30P
The Mercedes 120V charger with NEMA 5-15P
and a Tesla tap.
These seem to address my charging needs at every place visited to date. I live in a ChargePoint charging desert (I-49 to I-20 corridor). Quite a bit different from a single leaded to unleaded adapter from
the ICE old days.
Recommendation:
You can replace those 2 EVSE, with one Ford one. You will find a 1450 plug virtually anywhere in the country since they are the default campground charger. You can replace the TeslaTap with a mini one. Its a lot smaller and will connect to all Tesla plugs (up to 80 amps).
Mych smaller form factor and it all fits in the bag!
Last edited by c4004matic; 08-28-2022 at 03:53 PM.
There are usually no 14-50 sockets at many private homes but there are generally 30amp dryer outlets thus the -30P selections especially since I don't do campgrounds. There is little reason to actually consider a 120V charger, it takes way too long. I just tossed it in the picture because it came with the car.
There are usually no 14-50 sockets at many private homes but there are generally 30amp dryer outlets thus the -30P selections especially since I don't do campgrounds. There is little reason to actually consider a 120V charger, it takes way too long. I just tossed it in the picture because it came with the car.
Agreed that 110 is virtually useless. 10 hrs is 30 miles, only for extreme emergencies. Note a 30 amp plug is not a lot better. One pet peeve I have with the EQS is that MB only have the US a 9.6 Kw DC converter, does the job but if you are going to install a 14 50 plug an 11kw would have been as easy to install. You still need a 60 amp breaker and wiring. Ergo a 9.5kw was, quite frankly, stupid.
I personally didn’t see the value of 120v until I had my car in for PPF and tint. The battery drains in that setting. The 120v serves as a battery tender because when the car is plugged in, the car will charge the 12v battery.
I went with this one to use with the 14-50 plug at my house (only used a half dozen times since there is an EA 150kw a mile away) and at a parking lot 40 amp charger near my second home.
I went with this one to use with the 14-50 plug at my house (only used a half dozen times since there is an EA 150kw a mile away) and at a parking lot 40 amp charger near my second home. https://www.amazon.com/MUSTART-Porta...63b24bcb5&th=1
How many extra miles does one gain on a 220v home charger using a 60 amp. breaker over a 50 amp. breaker?
If we had an 11KW charger (not in the USA) we could shave about 2 hrs on a full charge! As equipped the max charge amp we have available is 40amps (9.6kw). If we had an 11kw converter we could use the whole 50 amps. Remember a 50 amp plug requires, by code, a 60 amp breaker and circuit.
In summary a 14 50 plug requires a 60 amp circuit. However given the limitations of the EQS on board charger (9.6kw) all you will use of the plug for is 40 amps.
Most mobile chargers (like the Ford I have) top of at 7.7kw (32amps).
Given the EQS monster battery I think a 9.6kw charger is less than optimal. In the real world, its OK given that the times that you have to go from 10- 100% are rare. That said faster is always better....
UL listing is, for me kind of a minimum requirement. Indeed its almost identical to Ford's at a much better price. Amazon worries me greatly. First they should not sell ANY non UL listed stuff
Secondly a lot of the stuff they are selling is from fly-by-night Chinese operations which spring out the blue today and disappear tomorrow.
morrow. Again the are in hot water for selling crappy electrical products some of the even "amazon recommended"
UL listing is, for me kind of a minimum requirement. Indeed its almost identical to Ford's at a much better price. Amazon worries me greatly. First they should not sell ANY non UL listed stuff
Secondly a lot of the stuff they are selling is from fly-by-night Chinese operations which spring out the blue today and disappear tomorrow.
morrow. Again the are in hot water for selling crappy electrical products some of the even "amazon recommended"
i think you are right. just searched their negative reviews and someone had the handle melt on the charging port causing $2k of damage. Ford is probably best option.
However , here is another idea. The Tesla mobile charger has the same specs as ford with a tesla connector, and is only $200. Add an adapter which most of us buy anyway, and you are way ahead.
i think you are right. just searched their negative reviews and someone had the handle melt on the charging port causing $2k of damage. Ford is probably best option.
However , here is another idea. The Tesla mobile charger has the same specs as ford with a tesla connector, and is only $200. Add an adapter which most of us buy anyway, and you are way ahead.
Another good option. It has to deliver the full 7kw (which I think it does). However to that price you have to add the price of a Tesla tap, unless they sell a J1772 version.
https://www.umc-j1772.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=160
Last edited by c4004matic; 08-30-2022 at 12:12 AM.
Another good option. It has to deliver the full 7kw (which I think it does). However to that price you have to add the price of a Tesla tap, unless they sell a J1772 version.
Yes. I worry about the reliability of the tap. I think I may just get the Ford one. I think I ought to have a mobile charger.
BTW If anyone wants a 16A-40A 120V-240V portable charger, then the BMW Flexible Fast Charger will be available for purchase standalone on September 22nd. The list price is $680 so I expect it will likely be available online around $600. The Ford is just over $400 but has 30A peak.
08-23-2022, 10:45 PM
