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I rented an EQS450 and drove it for about 400 km in the southern/central US, it was great! Really liked it. I drove a 580 last summer. I actually think the best spec is the 450 and with the standard (non-Hyperscreen) dash.
Is there a way to display tire pressures in the center of the Standard gauge display? I really missed that and it’s how I drive my G550 for example.
Overall, I think the main car reviewers have been too harsh on the EQS - it’s a great package. Braking is fine, you get used to it quickly. Steering is good, in Sport mode (in Comfort it’s way too twitchy on the highway).
On the SUV you can change the center dash display to a different set up that shows tire pressures but I personally do not like that particular display otherwise. Just verbally ask Mercedes what the tire pressures are and she will tell you. Easy Peasy….
On the SUV you can change the center dash display to a different set up that shows tire pressures but I personally do not like that particular display otherwise. Just verbally ask Mercedes what the tire pressures are and she will tell you. Easy Peasy….
Ok thanks, so the EQS SUV has different software...
I prefer them displayed at all times. I can't stand MBUX and prefer not to have to say "Hey Mercedes" whenever I want to know the tire pressures... probably it will get better, but right now it's terrible.
Ok thanks, so the EQS SUV has different software...
I prefer them displayed at all times. I can't stand MBUX and prefer not to have to say "Hey Mercedes" whenever I want to know the tire pressures... probably it will get better, but right now it's terrible.
You can press the voice button on the steering wheel and skip the “Hey Mercedes”. I use the button on the steering wheel exclusively. Saying “Hey Mercedes” is a novelty for about the first three times and then gets boring and feels stupid when others are in the vehicle. 😊
You can press the voice button on the steering wheel and skip the “Hey Mercedes”. I use the button on the steering wheel exclusively. Saying “Hey Mercedes” is a novelty for about the first three times and then gets boring and feels stupid when others are in the vehicle. 😊
On my 450+, you can use the buttons on the the left side of the wheel to bring the tire info up in the center of the driver's screen. Pretty easy. Not sure how long it will stay there, though.
On my 450+, you can use the buttons on the the left side of the wheel to bring the tire info up in the center of the driver's screen. Pretty easy. Not sure how long it will stay there, though.
But you lose the main speedo and power % display. That’s not great.
On my G and AMG GT you can have everything on the screen at once.
But you lose the main speedo and power % display. That’s not great.
On my G and AMG GT you can have everything on the screen at once.
I don't think EQS (or W223) can display tyre pressure on the trip computer area if that is what you are after. It isn't "everything on the screen at once" but the "normal" cluster display plus tyre pressure figures on the G and AMG GT?
But why would one want to watch tyre pressures continuously on a sedan? Thought it would be useful at most on a race track and then perhaps needed on an AMG car. There is a pop up message anyway if tyre pressure goes wrong while driving.
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Originally Posted by Diesel Benz
But why would one want to watch tyre pressures continuously..
Unfortunately you can't get a spare and a jack in a car these days no matter how many hundreds of thousands of dollars you spend. So what would be no big deal, getting a flat, becomes a major catastrophic event requiring the assistance of several other people (roadside assistance, tow truck, service tech). That's why one might want to watch their tire pressure. A better question is why would anyone want to drive a car around without a spare if they're not saving weight for track racing or doing EPA gas mileage estimates?
Unfortunately you can't get a spare and a jack in a car these days no matter how many hundreds of thousands of dollars you spend. So what would be no big deal, getting a flat, becomes a major catastrophic event requiring the assistance of several other people (roadside assistance, tow truck, service tech). That's why one might want to watch their tire pressure. A better question is why would anyone want to drive a car around without a spare if they're not saving weight for track racing or doing EPA gas mileage estimates?
Exactly. If you have a slow leak or if one tire needs to be inflated/deflated to match the others, you won’t be alerted automatically.
Also, why are we regressing in terms of what information can be displayed on the dash? My 2019MY cars can show tire pressure between the speed and rpm, why can’t the latest MBUX cars do that?! It’s a pretty big oversight. Hopefully, they will correct it with a software update; but it’s unlikely.
OP, on regular models there isn't a tire pressure display that you can have up at all times, w/o losing other information. But I know where you are coming from. I have the tire pressures up most of the time in my C63S coupe.
Originally Posted by Diesel Benz
But why would one want to watch tyre pressures continuously on a sedan? Thought it would be useful at most on a race track and then perhaps needed on an AMG car. There is a pop up message anyway if tyre pressure goes wrong while driving.
As said, I have them up in my C63 even for normal driving. AMGs have a combined view for all the relevant temps and tire pressures. There are two reasons I do this. First reason is to see the temperatures and know when I can start getting on it. Being an RWD car I also need to know if my rear tires are up to temp so I can gauge their traction. The second reason is while there is a warning that comes up when the tire pressure is low, that doesn't happen until about 20-25% loss of pressure. At that point I may be far from anywhere and risking to have to call road side assistance or get stranded. Also not to mention that driving on an underinflated tire will damage it. So by seeing the pressure at all times, particularly shortly after I drive off, I can see immediately if something is off. I've caught three punctures in my rear tires early so far thanks to immediately seeing that one of the tires is 1-2 psi lower.
Now if you have runflat tires then it might be less of a concern, because you can still drive home worst case, but w/o a spare and no RFT tires, I wanna know as soon as possible if I have a leak.
I am, personally, less sensitive (or less worried) about this. I've driven all over the US on motorcycles and in cars without spares, and have found catastrophic tire failures to be fairly rare. If they happen, it is of course very inconvenient, I admit. But mostly, you get alerted that you are losing air in a tire in plenty of time by the TPMS, to stop periodically and correct it, with the pump you are carrying on board, until you can get to a place where there can be a repair/replacement. On a motorcycle, one could particularly be driven crazy if one were to worry excessively about a puncture. The vast majority of them only require periodic refilling of air to continue your journey safely. And, BTW, on my 450+, the tire pressure will display on the center of the three sections of the driver's screen, just below the speed display. YMMV.
I agree, catastrophic failures are rare and most punctures seal the tire enough to keep driving with regularly airing up, but that's not really the point, IMO. As with everything, the earlier you can discover an issue the better and the less costly and disruptive it is to get it fixed. For example if I have a trip planned for the weekend, especially one of my canyon runs where I drive aggressively and work the tires hard, I wanna know before setting off if I have an issue with the tires instead of getting caught by it part way into the trip. I've been in this situation, where I set off for a road trip just to discover I had a puncture and needed to interrupt the trip. Especially with low profile high performance tires, it's less likely to find a replacement somewhere in a rural area in pickup truck country.
I used to think this way. My two previous Audis had TPMS, but wouldn't show the individual tire pressures. Only a warning once the pressure was low enough. With low profile tires you really don't wanna get into this situation as an underinflated tire can result in wheel damage if you hit even a minor pothole as there isn't a lot of sidewall to protect the wheel to begin with. With low profile tires it's also difficult to visually spot underinflated tires, so being able to monitor the tire pressures is that much more valuable.
Last edited by superswiss; Jul 6, 2023 at 04:15 PM.
Yea, I get it. All my recent cars have had the ability to display current pressure. And I even installed a TPMS system on my Goldwing, before I stopped motorcycling. You should see the pressure and temperature build up in the rear tire of a Goldwing with loaded cases and two-up spirited riding on a mountain road! For performance driving, I completely understand. But, for a luxury sedan or SUV, I'm just not sure it matters to constantly monitor. The alerts are sufficient, IMHO. Clearly personal preference, risk tolerance......all very individual things. Thanks for listening. YMMV.
You can read tyre pressure on an EQS, just cannot put it always visible within a "normal" cluster display.
I don't get all the previous comments about a small leak etc., I've had one with the W222 and I'm sure the car gave the pop up warning before I would have noticed it from "a constant tyre pressure display on the cluster". Even my W221 did with the ESP based system (no wheel sensors). I'd say everyone is complaining for something insignificant if not driving on a track. Better to watch traffic and let the car warn you when needed. Of course would not harm if tyre pressures would be an option instead of fuel/electricity consumption or such.
You can read tyre pressure on an EQS, just cannot put it always visible within a "normal" cluster display.
I don't get all the previous comments about a small leak etc., I've had one with the W222 and I'm sure the car gave the pop up warning before I would have noticed it from "a constant tyre pressure display on the cluster". Even my W221 did with the ESP based system (no wheel sensors). I'd say everyone is complaining for something insignificant if not driving on a track. Better to watch traffic and let the car warn you when needed. Of course would not harm if tyre pressures would be an option instead of fuel/electricity consumption or such.
I see you are located in Europe, so it's worth pointing out that here in the USA, pressure is measured and displayed in psi (pounds per square inch) compared to bar as is commonly used in Europe. At 30-40psi which is somewhat of a normal tire pressure range, TPMS doesn't alert until pressure drops at least 6 to 8 psi. That is very noticeable in the display long before you get the warning. I can see how you might easily not notice that in your case as 6 psi is only 0.4 bar. I can tell you I notice immediately when one of the tires shows 1-2 psi lower than it should, but you'd likely miss that because 2 psi is only 0.13 bar. It's much easier to notice these deviations with the larger numbers, so if you were to use kPa instead of bar it'd also be easier to notice as 0.13 bar would be 13 kPa.
The psi scale also lends itself nicely to do temperature conversions, because every 10 degrees Fahrenheit results in 1 psi change in tire pressure, so it's very easy to compare the displayed pressure to the displayed tire temperature or ambient temperature and do some quick math in the head to assess if all is good. Again, with Celsius and Bar, it's not as obvious and the math is more complicated. This is one of the few things that is more straight forward with the otherwise wacky units of measurement the USA uses. Fahrenheit does have its charm sometimes.
Last edited by superswiss; Jul 7, 2023 at 03:53 PM.
Door placard does not show my tires, AMG EQS 275/35 R 22
Here is the tire chart on the door, but the tires on the car are 275/35R 22. So what pressures should I use for rear and front?
The size tires that came on my 2023 AMG EQS are not shown on the door placard as it says in the manual. What pressures are recommended for normal driving on this vehicle. All 4 tires are the same size on 22 inch rims.
Last edited by woppenhe; Sep 26, 2023 at 07:45 PM.
The size tires that came on my 2023 AMG EQS are not shown on the door placard as it says in the manual. What pressures are recommended for normal driving on this vehicle. All 4 tires are the same size on 22 inch rims.
Check the inside of your charging door. There should be a detailed sticker with all the pressures for various tires, load and speed scenarios. There's not a single proper tire pressure as the North American door placard makes you believe. The ideal tire pressure depends on the above factors.
Nothing on the charging door, but I copied the information from the drivers' door pillar in my original post. The issue is that the tires that came with the car are not really iisted on the door A second placard on the door does list the tires, but for the fronts Here is placard #2
suggests 42 PSI and then 51 for the rear. That sound pretty high; I htought I saw on the tire that the max psi was 50, but I will recheck. The dealer had the tirese delivered at 39 F and 47 R.
Last edited by woppenhe; Sep 26, 2023 at 07:56 PM.
Nothing on the charging door, but I copied the information from the drivers' door pillar in my original post. The issue is that the tires that came with the car are not really iisted on the door A second placard on the door does list the tires, but for the fronts
Here is placard #2
suggests 42 PSI and then 51 for the rear. That sound pretty high; I htought I saw on the tire that the max psi was 50, but I will recheck. The dealer had the tirese delivered at 39 F and 47 R.
The door placard only lists what's known as the max load recommended tire pressure. This pressure is technically only suitable with the vehicle loaded up to its gross weight and driven above a certain speed (100mph or 155mph). You want to find what's known as the normal load recommended tire pressure. To be honest, I'm not sure where they are sticking the tire pressure sticker on the EVs. Used to be inside of the fuel door, so I was assuming the logical place would be inside of the charging door. It looks something like below. This is from my C63S coupe, which as you can see has lots of different pressures for the various tire options, loads and speeds. Yours should have fewer pressures if you can find it.
It is part of the Service menu on the 2023 AMB EQS, if you can stumble into that one. I believe I bring it up via the left steering wheel mouse pad button after pressing the home button on that panel. I will check later today. Easier than using a gauge since one is built in, as long as you can rely on the calibration. At some point I will check the display against my external gauge, but those are not perfectly reliable either.
Better idea (using voice control) than mine trying to find the place on the menu. By the way my socket door (not called fuel cap any longer) shows only the type of chargers that can be used.
Last edited by woppenhe; Sep 27, 2023 at 03:50 PM.
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Yeah, you just hit the home button on left side of steering wheel, swipe left several times and then try not to hit the home button again to select but press the same place you were swiping or you'll have to start all over. Then after you check the pressure, press home again, swipe in other direction several times to get back to the normal screen, try not to hit home to select, and press the swipe area. It really couldn't be any simpler.
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Nothing on the charging door, but I copied the information from the drivers' door pillar in my original post. The issue is that the tires that came with the car are not really iisted on the door A second placard on the door does list the tires, but for the fronts
