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I'm a very happy owner of an EQS Sedan. I saw yesterday that Lucid dramatically dropped their prices. Their base model now can be leased for $695/month for 3 years with nothing up front..... basically what I got my 2023 EQS for (2 year term). When I looked at their website, I thought their base sedan looked quite spartan. They do make a big deal of their 400+ mile range.
Anyone have any thoughts how it compares to an EQS..... They really don't have much of a dealer / service network and the EQS came with 2 year of FREE power.
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Out of Spec Dave on YouBoob bought and sold one. My take is it's a really nice car but the software can be tricky and he actually completely bricked his on a road trip. Luckily Lucid was able to remotely reset everything but with no cell service he would have been SOL. Anywho, I was actually thinking about the Gravity (new SUV) -- which is what they should have come out with before the sedan IMHO -- but last time I checked they still wanted me to sign up for email spam to "stay informed". So I couldn't give them my money even if I wanted to. It's still "hurry up and wait" for an SUV. *sigh*
Oh well, maybe the Saudis will buy them out and fix the management problem... they've apparently already invested a pile of riyals.
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I test drove the Lucid Air GT when it first came out. I was considering it but in the end preferred the EQS. Here are my observations:
Lucid Air GT
Strengths:
Suspension is very well calibrated. It offer a great balance of handling and comfort. Not as smooth as the EQS580, but smoother than most luxury cars. At the same time it handles very well.
Packaging is outstanding. The packaging of the car (how they use space) is brilliant. The way they fit a good size trunk by using vortexes behind the bumper to streamline space for the air intake. The deep sub floor storage in the trunk. The amount of interior room for an E Class size car is closer to EQS than EQE.
Interior is vastly better than Tesla but feels a little cheaper than a Mercedes, despite using better materials. The interior of the lucid is very good in terms of material quality. It is mostly leather and fabric. You don't have as much of the grain embossed soft touch plastic that you see in Mercedes. It also has a leather airbag. But nonetheless it feels cheaper. I think it is because of the design which is a bit too minimalistic, the lack of French-seam stitching, particularly on the doors and dash. And also the speaker grills are plastic instead of metal.The car does not feel like it has a $140k car interior.
Things I found unsatisfactory:
Steering is okay, but prefer the EQS steering on both AMG and non AMG models.
It is supposed to have 0-60 in 3 seconds. It didn't feel any quicker than my EQS580. Part of this is that it lacks launch control.
Handling not at level of Porsche which I think they need it to be if it is a performance model. I took a corner very fast, and it felt a little wobble. Not what you want to feel. TBH I think the regular EQS has the same thing because of the soft suspension, but I expected more based on the press reviews of the Lucid.
Interior does not feel nice enough for the price (as detailed above)
Lacks important features. When you can buy an EQS with AR HUD, CarPlay, Hyperscreen, etc. for less money, you feel like this car is not fully featured enough for its price point. I think Lucid might have CarPlay now but the implementation is ****ty.
Rear seat is very low, and front seat is too low to put your foot under the front seat. Even though it has as much leg room as the EQS, it feels less comfortable sitting in the rear. It feels like sitting on a cushion on the floor. The only way to do it comfortable is to sit cross legged. They did this to optimize headroom. I think they would have been better off doing less headroom and a higher seat cushion like in the EQS.
I bumped my head on the header when getting in. The car has too low a roofline.
Interestingly I find the Lucid Gravity much more compelling compared with the Air. I would probably choose a Gravity over an EQS SUV, but would choose am EQS over the Gravity all day long. The reason is the Lucid sedan is not as comfy as the EQS, but the Lucid SUV seems more spacious and better laid out.
Just saw a video debut of the new Taycan. It looks like it adopted an active hydraulic suspension. Worth considering if you want something sportier. The wagon hatch is what I'm interested in with the Taycan.
I test drove a Touring in Phoenix. Very nice car on par with the EQS on ride, handling, performance, comfort and fit and finish. Just wasn't a SUV that I was looking for.
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Originally Posted by wildta
Just saw a video debut of the new Taycan. It looks like it adopted an active hydraulic suspension. Worth considering if you want something sportier. The wagon hatch is what I'm interested in with the Taycan.
Wagon is the Cross Tourismo, but it's the new Macan EV that's getting all the attention, which is more EQE SUVish.
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Originally Posted by wildta
Yes. I always forget the name. I guess they don't like the wagon moniker.
I was considering trading-in my EQE SUV for one a few months back but decided might as well wait for the NACS-equipped models to arrive first. I especially want to see what Jaguar has to offer to replace the I-Pace as I really love my F-Pace SVR ICE vehicle so might be nice to have two. If I can find a Jag dealer that doesn't ignore me, that is. You'd think they're selling Rolls Royces or sumptin'... must be those way-over-MSRP Range Rovers.
If I can find a Jag dealer that doesn't ignore me, that is. .
Yep. Here in San Antonio, I tried several times to communicate with the Jag dealer to schecule a test drive for the I Pace, before I purchased my EQS. Never got a reply at all. Decided they didn't need me, so.....
Added to that concern is the sparsity of service centers. I live in San Antonio, and would have to get it to Houston or DFW for any necessary service.
Yes this is a factor if you live in a second tier city. I have to say though that their network has expanded significantly. A year ago they had nothing in Atlanta, Now they have a mobile service hub and are in the process of opening a studio and a service center.
An acquisition of Lucid by Rivian would be ideal. It would make them like the JLR of EVs. Rivian seems to have a much better service network and better product capabilities. Plus while all these new companies have service limitations, my own experience with the Rivian Service Center in Atlanta has been very good.
IMO, spending 100k (or whatever) on a company that has the manufacturing experience of building 1 car is absolutely ridiculous. Its like getting a heart transplant from a surgeon on his first day of residency.
To me, Porsche and Ferrari just seems like they want too much for their cars. Porsche much less. Their list of options and charging them for it just seems like the Toyota dealership's way of getting more money out of your pocket. I guess I'm not into that that customize your car for a premium. No collector here. Buy, use it, enjoy it, and move on. As for Lucid, they are too new, and I'm no early adopter for this kind of newest (in terms of a new company).
I own a Lucid Air Grand Touring and have had it for about a year - compared to my EQS450, it is much sportier to drive / handles much, much better. EQS has a slightly more comfortable suspension and the ambient lighting is nice, but the Lucid is much more of a dream to drive and feels more special. It is as spacious as an EQS on the inside, but in a much smaller outside package. And it gets way more compliments than the EQS - it’s definitely a looker. Oh and the massage seats are much stronger/better than the EQS. That being said, it does have some technical glitches/software issues, all of which have been getting better with each OTA update (which are very frequent) and I prefer the Burmester system in the EQS (although the Lucid also has Atmos).
Does the Air Grand Touring have twice the horses and torque of an EQS450? Although, they may have similar MSRP. Seems like you can get more bang for you buck with the Grand Touring. Perhaps the offset is risk of service and support unless you are in a city where that is a none issue. When I look at a Lucid, I see some Tesla DNA, I see an engineer's creation. These are all good to me. I guess when it comes to rides, I'm not ready to get one from a **** launched company. Give it 10 years of existence, and I'll more interested.
IMO, spending 100k (or whatever) on a company that has the manufacturing experience of building 1 car is absolutely ridiculous. It's right butlike getting a heart transplant from a surgeon on his first day of residency.
Right but that is a bit of an exaggeration because the people who built the car have a ton of automotive manufacturing experience. If you look at the executive teams and Manufacturing leaders at places like Rivian and Lucid, they are mostly drawn from Audi, Mercedes and Porsche. They know what they are doing.
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You'd think they're selling Rolls Royces or sumptin'... must be those way-over-MSRP Range Rovers.
