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Old Sep 28, 2024 | 01:03 AM
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EQS 450 tire replacement at 7,000 miles

I have a 2023 EQS 450. I had to replace all 4 tires at 7,000 miles. That’s a $2,000 on a brand new super low mileage car. MB never acknowledged my complaint. Has this happened to others? Mercedes is selling these very heavy cars with the bottom of the line goodyear tires. Tire Threads gone after 10 months of use!
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Old Sep 28, 2024 | 01:32 AM
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Interesting, but not surprising. Tell us a bit more. What tire brand/model/type/size are the OEs? Does MB recommend running tire pressure close to max because of the battery weight? What tires are you considering now (maybe a light truck LT rated)?
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Old Sep 28, 2024 | 06:28 AM
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Our EQS SUV had 20,000 miles after 18 months on the factory Pirelli Scorpion tires when we traded it in. It still had plenty of tread left (and this is without ever having them rotated).

7,000 miles isn't normal. That points to either terrible alignment issues or a very fast and aggressive driving style, or both.

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Old Sep 28, 2024 | 07:02 PM
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The Goodyear tires provide great ride comfort and cost a lot less than the Pirelli Scorpion for example. Only 7000 miles for a set does sound like someone floored it a lot
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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 04:24 PM
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My EQS sedan is at 6/32nd tread all around at 8500 miles with the factory Pirellis. I'm projected to wear them out to the bars at 26K. Brake and tire wear are heavily influenced by driving style, so I too wonder if driving habits caused the Goodyears to go at 7K.
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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 11:54 PM
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Driving style

I definitely do not drive aggressively. Also not an alignment problem. I wish I had kept the detail on which tires the car came with from the factory. the tire shop did tell me the Goodyear tires that came from the factory were light duty (lighter cars) and was sold more substantial (heavy duty) tires.

I was really upset that MB didn’t follow up on my complaint. Its a $100k car and if I were them, I would pay attention to buyers. Ive been driving German cars for decades and never had this happen. It was completely unacceptable.
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Old Sep 30, 2024 | 06:36 AM
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It's just tough... if it's not your driving style and it's not an alignment issue, something isn't adding up here. Especially considering there are now 2 examples in this thread of EQS' lasting well over 20,000 miles on a set of tires. 1 being a sedan and 1 being an SUV which is 400-500 pounds heavier.

In addition, tires are a normal wear and tear item. You'd have to PROVE that something abnormal caused them to wear out prematurely if you want the dealers to replace them for free at 7,000 miles. I think you're fighting an uphill battle on this one...
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Old Sep 30, 2024 | 02:00 PM
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This is hard for me to believe. My 2022 EQS 450+ still has three of the original Goodyear F1 Asymmetric tires on (one got a nail and was replaced) with plenty of tread depth left after 32 thousand miles. Your tire wear simply does not make sense, without very aggresive driving habits. None of us have reported such tire wear in the last three years. Are you for real, or just trolling the site? Give us specific information about tire brand, model, size and rating please.
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Old Jul 17, 2025 | 03:48 PM
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Tire Dealer recommends be replaced.

Originally Posted by ihatemyeqs450
I have a 2023 EQS 450. I had to replace all 4 tires at 7,000 miles. That’s a $2,000 on a brand new super low mileage car. MB never acknowledged my complaint. Has this happened to others? Mercedes is selling these very heavy cars with the bottom of the line goodyear tires. Tire Threads gone after 10 months of use!
I had a similar experience but got a few more miles out of my first set of 4 - around 9000 miles in 2 years. The second set are more problematic.

I replaced all four tires at ~9000 miles and 2 years with the same “Run Flat” factory tires that came with the vehicle - Bridgestone RFT Turanzas. I bought the tires in Nov. 2024 from the local Reno, NV dealership. We took the car in for a check up 8 months later in June, 2025 with ~13300 (4300 miles later) and by text were told we “needed new tires”. I checked them. We need 1 new tire. The right rear tire was nearly bald. The left rear still has tread yet nowhere near bald. It also has more wear that the 2 front tires.


This morning, July 17, 2025, I stopped by the dealership to speak with “Quannie” the service manager.

First - the recommendation to buy new tires was a little misleading. Quannie checked the service records which clearly showed 2 of the four tires are fine, 1 is “yellow” or in the cautionary area and 1 is in the “red” meaning it needs replacement. Maybe I misunderstood and the tech meant to write, “you should change 2 of the tires and not all.” I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Second - Regarding the early wear on 2 of my new tires -
Quannie told me all electric cars are heavy and go through tires. That didn’t explain the difference between my first set and second, new set. I asked him about it and he told me it could be a result of a tire manufacturing issue which is not warranteed. That seems a little to convenient and, if correct, a bummer..
He said it could be a difference in driving habits - fast starts and stops. That doesn’t make sense to me because I am 64 years old and haven’t changed my driving habits. They are habits.
Quannie suggested it might be due to more city driving. That also doesn’t make sense because the first set of tires only went on one trip which was well within 1 battery charge. In other words - mostly city driving. On the second set and possibly faulty tires, 1000 of the 4300 miles were a round trip to Southern California which means MORE highway driving and presumably LESS wear.
Another possible factor might be misalignment. Upon checking the service records from last November, the wheels had been aligned. Couldn’t be that unless the job was performed poorly - we don’t take this car 4 wheeling.

At $500-$600 a tire I thought it would be worth investigating. So far, I haven’t come up with anything to explain the difference between my first and second sets of tires. Whatever the reason, tire wear is a common issue with electric cars. I didn’t buy the car to save the environment but all those extra worn out tires can’t help it.
Dealer recommends replacement.
Dealer recommends replacement.

Last edited by 2023 EQS450; Jul 17, 2025 at 04:13 PM. Reason: Adding a picture provided by dealer of “tire requiring replacement”
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Old Jul 17, 2025 | 04:03 PM
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Invest in an easy to use and read tire tread depth gauge like this one --
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(less than $20). Avoid surprises and keep your dealer honest.
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Old Jul 17, 2025 | 04:08 PM
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Based on the trend (and tread), it seems i should rotate every 1000 miles to keep them even. I would think at 4300, there should be no bald tires.
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Old Jul 17, 2025 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 2023 EQS450
Based on the trend (and tread), it seems i should rotate every 1000 miles to keep them even. I would think at 4300, there should be no bald tires.
Thats ridiculous. You should never have to buy new tires at less than 10,000 miles. On my previous 2022 EQS 580, I needed to change the Firestone Turanza RFT that came with the car from the factory at a little over 20,000 miles.

The tires which came with my 2025 EQS 580 are Pirelli RFT’s. They seem more comfortable and make less noise than the Turanzas. It will be interesting to see how many miles they last.

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Old Jul 20, 2025 | 12:26 AM
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My EQS AMAG tires bald on the inside at around 13K miles. The middle and outer side were fine and had plenty of tread left. If it was bad alignment, then it happened to all for 4 tires and the same rate. However, this car came with negative camber, and you can visually see it. I guess I can get it dialed down to be out of spec, and have the tires last longer. But, those tires are only warranty to 15K miles anyways. So I got some Continentals DWS. Let's see what happens to these.

The excuse that EVs are heavier and go through tires more negates the fact that trucks and SUV like my LX570 is just as heavy. No tire issues there. If you think you are doing everything right, also consider getting "EV" spec tires, too.
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Old Jul 20, 2025 | 07:56 AM
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I have been using United Tire on Ebay for years. I've bought many tires from them. They specialize in used tires, in all conditions from 5/32nds left to almost new. The cost is crazy inexpensive, like I just bought a set of Toyo tires for my son-in-laws Escape for $250 with shipping included and 8/32nds remaining. Some have a patch in one of the tires, always in the tread area. Some are take offs with just delivery mileage on the tires for maybe 60% of cost. They are great to deal with, and ship the same day to make it even better out of Chicago, which means next day delivery for me in Iowa.

https://www.ebay.com/str/unitedtires

edit: I just looked at inventory for the EQS...they don't have a lot currently worth buying due to low tread, but it changes constantly with new tires added. Worth checking back.

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Old Jul 21, 2025 | 05:54 PM
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I got the same explanation at the dealer that tire wear is aggressive on these EVs because of weight, conveniently ignoring that SUVs like the GLS, GLE, XC90, etc don't weight any less. As the other user said, the EQS 450+ sedan has negative camber and you can see it, but it wouldn't explain the front tires being like that. For another comparison, a GLE got 30,000 miles over 3 years in Midwest weather and still had another 10,000 miles left in them with the tires that came from the factory. MB didn't even charge for the tires at least return because they were above the minimum recommended tread. I would suggest more durable tires for getting at least 25,000 miles.
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Old Jul 22, 2025 | 05:51 PM
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My 2024 EQS SUV 450 4matic has 8225 miles and still have plenty of tire tread. Tires are original Pirelli Scorpion.
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Old Jul 22, 2025 | 06:17 PM
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Op, are you the original owner? Are they original wheels? Nobody else in the thread has mentioned Goodyear tires. Perhaps for some reason, someone put the wrong grade of tire on it. Heavy suvs need an lt or higher rated tire imo. That’s when you get great mileage out of tires…though at the possible expense of some comfort or noise. A sport tire won’t last very long at all. I maintain 2 100 series lancruisers and recently witnessed that the older one with looser albeit strait running and well maintained bushings absolutely destroyed the same tires way quicker than the newer one thats “perfect”.
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If OP's tire wear was fairly even on all four tires, then someone has a lead foot (in my opinion).

My 2023 EQS 580 SUV has Goodyear Eagle Touring "RunOnFlat" 275/45R21 M+S at all four corners. These tires are the "Sound Comfort Tech" versions with the foam in the tire to cut down on noise. I bought the car in May of this year, with only 500 miles on it. I can't speak to tire wear, but I am pretty sure ours won't last long because my wife has a lead foot. Those tires are $339/each on TireRack today. Considering that they are hauling around a 6,000lb+ luxo barge, I find that they are quiet, handle well, and handle predictably rain or shine. According to TireRack, they have a 110H load rating (2,337 lbs per tire, 130MPH top speed). Most of the other tires listed for my car on TireRack share the same 110 (2,337 lbs per tire) load rating, but have much higher speed ratings.

I am not the arbiter of what a "good tire" is, but these seem pretty good (potential durability issues aside). Since my other car is a Porsche 911 with Michelin Pilot Sport 4S (summer only) sticky tires, and the last two cars in our garage were a 2019 Cayenne S wearing Pirelli Scorpion Verde shoes, and a 2021 Macan GTS with Michelin Latitude Tour HP's, my views of handling are a little bit skewed. Around town, I drive the Benzo in sport mode most of the time.

I'll definitely keep a watch on the mileage, but I'm fairly happy with the Goodyears so far.

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