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I miss expertise. Remember back like 40 years ago people would study, get advanced degrees, and become experts in stuff? We looked to them to explain the complicated things in the world and beyond that were beyond our limited skills/education to understand. Expertise is now out the window. Trust crazy uncle Bob because he's on Facebook and he 'heard something" or is "just asking questions", and ignore someone who has devoted their lives to a particular subject. We do this at our own and future generations' peril.
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The good side? Well, many are now winning big judgments in the courts.....
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FALSE. 99%+ of Dino cars are EASILY recyclable and most already have been...a few times.
And...
Less than 5 percent of adults rank climate change as the single most important issue. More pressing issues include those that affect people’s daily lives, like the economy, healthcare, education, and crime.
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Just because it’s not a major issue for voters doesn’t mean it’s not a major issue. It just means people don’t care.
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Let’s look at a few facts. See if you can answer a few questions that will shed a lot of light on the great glow bull warming swindle.
When was the modern day(accurate) thermometer invented, and by whom?
When were accurate temperatures records first kept in an almanac format?
When were almanacs expanded to cover worldwide temperatures?
Have the coverage of temperature monitoring stations remained constant?
Are temperature monitoring records subject to lapses in coverage?
How fragmented is temperature monitoring coverage?
When direct records are unavailable, why are proxies used, and what are the main proxies?
Can these proxies be easily manipulated?
What is the uncertainty of previous worldwide temperature records?
What is divergence in correlation, and how does it impact the assumed causes of worldwide temperature records?
Why do those most dedicated to alarmism, have a lifestyle that belies their values?
If the world did warm 1-2 degrees as predicted, would the effect be positive or negative?
Did East Anglia College corrupt the data they held to artificially inflate temperature predictions?
Also, OM&HC is a Doctor. As a doctor, he has extensive training and education in science, and the scientific method. A lot of people want to give “scientists” a lot of credibility, and not give him any. That seems quite odd to me.
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Regarding EV and technologies, it's 2 steps forward and 1 step backward. If you can't handle the bleeding edge, stay on the porch and stop barking. Oldman is old man mentality. Nothing surprising, here. I'm not red or blue, not popular or polarizing either. I drive an EV, a gas guzzler, and everything in between. I wear a mask to help me with my allergies, I don't care what people may think. If I don't like something, I get rid of it and buy something else.
If you don't like what your local or federal government is telling you what to do, go do business somewhere else if you can't change their minds with your vote or network of people. Thank God for the USA, and the freedom to choose.
If you don't like what your local or federal government is telling you what to do, go do business somewhere else if you can't change their minds with your vote or network of people. Thank God for the USA, and the freedom to choose.
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Regarding EV and technologies, it's 2 steps forward and 1 step backward. If you can't handle the bleeding edge, stay on the porch and stop barking. Oldman is old man mentality. Nothing surprising, here. I'm not red or blue, not popular or polarizing either. I drive an EV, a gas guzzler, and everything in between. I wear a mask to help me with my allergies, I don't care what people may think. If I don't like something, I get rid of it and buy something else.
If you don't like what your local or federal government is telling you what to do, go do business somewhere else if you can't change their minds with your vote or network of people. Thank God for the USA, and the freedom to choose.
If you don't like what your local or federal government is telling you what to do, go do business somewhere else if you can't change their minds with your vote or network of people. Thank God for the USA, and the freedom to choose.
See, we are actually exactly alike. Where I get my distaste is the Govt. trying to force me to do something and force me to spend money (install chargers) on my private property. Under their guise, why not install some gas pumps as well? To that, 100% of our local electricity is produced by COAL. So, there we have it....
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Unless you have a degree in climatology I don't know about, you saying its not a major issue doesn't move the needle at all for me. I will listen to the people who do have such degrees and have made studying climate their life's work. Being a "Doctor" doesn't make somebody an expert in climate.
This is the issue with America, everybody is so arrogant and comfortable in their own ignorance they think they have the stature to argue with people who actually are experts in a field. We need to start valuing people's education, experience and credentials over our own agendas again.
This is the issue with America, everybody is so arrogant and comfortable in their own ignorance they think they have the stature to argue with people who actually are experts in a field. We need to start valuing people's education, experience and credentials over our own agendas again.
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That degree carries the same weight (and income potential) as a degree in TransGender Studies or Ancient Cultures. It is simply a worthless nomenclature with nothing real to validate its purpose. Unlike even a PLUBMER or ELECTRICIAN who can validate their education with a valid, tangible result and end product.
In general, we do not hire anyone with a degree unless they are MD/DO/NP/PA. The rest of them, we dont need the drama. Not long ago we hired a 23/yo. "MBA"....yeah, he did not lost long at all. But, he was an MBA, just ask him.....(MBA with out 15+ years is as worthless as that Doctorate in Art Theory).
In general, we do not hire anyone with a degree unless they are MD/DO/NP/PA. The rest of them, we dont need the drama. Not long ago we hired a 23/yo. "MBA"....yeah, he did not lost long at all. But, he was an MBA, just ask him.....(MBA with out 15+ years is as worthless as that Doctorate in Art Theory).
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That degree carries the same weight (and income potential) as a degree in TransGender Studies or Ancient Cultures. It is simply a worthless nomenclature with nothing real to validate its purpose. Unlike even a PLUBMER or ELECTRICIAN who can validate their education with a valid, tangible result and end product.
In general, we do not hire anyone with a degree unless they are MD/DO/NP/PA. The rest of them, we dont need the drama. Not long ago we hired a 23/yo. "MBA"....yeah, he did not lost long at all. But, he was an MBA, just ask him.....(MBA with out 15+ years is as worthless as that Doctorate in Art Theory).
Why would scientists want to work for your dumb little medical office?
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@SW20S Seriously? Your litmus test is a Government worker? Seriously?
But, come on. Your reference for the Environmental Science degree is a Govt Worker? That is the .0001% pariah like putting Musk's pay in the mix to quantify "IT Professionals" pay (add Jobs and Gates to that comparison). I know a girl who was making over $200k a year brining Panda bears to US Zoo's (as an employee of the Govt). Even she admitted that she did not know exact what value the tax payer was receiving for her salary. But, I did get a great story about the time I got bit by a Panda bear in Chengdu China.
As for who works for us? Well FAR less than in the past. I have a history of "laying off" over 2000 people at a time as we close hospitals in cities in "blue" states. Last adventure we closed a 400+ room hospital, L1 Trauma, L1 Burn, L1 Neuro and L2 NICU. See, the Government also can not mandate where a provider choses to practice nor require that a person receives a service if they (the Govt) can not pay (yet they can sue). It feels good knowing that the "under served" can no longer take advantage of healthcare systems and providers as part of their life long (generations long) cycle of dependance. In cities like Chicago and NY they get to see first hand what "Socialized Medicine" feels like. Feels like 20 hours in the ED for a minor burn, and 16-24 weeks out for a PCP. What ever you do, dont get knocked up as they will never find an Ob. (then complain about the lack of prenatal care). We do not hire "Scientists", I am pretty sure the dermo-pathologists would not agree.
But, come on. Your reference for the Environmental Science degree is a Govt Worker? That is the .0001% pariah like putting Musk's pay in the mix to quantify "IT Professionals" pay (add Jobs and Gates to that comparison). I know a girl who was making over $200k a year brining Panda bears to US Zoo's (as an employee of the Govt). Even she admitted that she did not know exact what value the tax payer was receiving for her salary. But, I did get a great story about the time I got bit by a Panda bear in Chengdu China.
As for who works for us? Well FAR less than in the past. I have a history of "laying off" over 2000 people at a time as we close hospitals in cities in "blue" states. Last adventure we closed a 400+ room hospital, L1 Trauma, L1 Burn, L1 Neuro and L2 NICU. See, the Government also can not mandate where a provider choses to practice nor require that a person receives a service if they (the Govt) can not pay (yet they can sue). It feels good knowing that the "under served" can no longer take advantage of healthcare systems and providers as part of their life long (generations long) cycle of dependance. In cities like Chicago and NY they get to see first hand what "Socialized Medicine" feels like. Feels like 20 hours in the ED for a minor burn, and 16-24 weeks out for a PCP. What ever you do, dont get knocked up as they will never find an Ob. (then complain about the lack of prenatal care). We do not hire "Scientists", I am pretty sure the dermo-pathologists would not agree.
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A government worker who has a doctorate in climatology from Yale? Yes I do trust her. You try and diminish her because she "works for the government" but she has spent decades learning about and studying and doing research on the climate. She is an expert in this field, you are not lol
You don't think the effort to save Pandas from extinction is of value? Presenting them to the public so we can learn about them enriches our society. Not everything we pay for as a society has a direct financial benefit or payoff.
You don't think the effort to save Pandas from extinction is of value? Presenting them to the public so we can learn about them enriches our society. Not everything we pay for as a society has a direct financial benefit or payoff.
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What are the hard science disciplines a doctor (MD;DO) aka allopathic, and osteopathic are educated in.
Physics
Statics
Dynamics
Thermodynamics
Chemistry
Inorganic chemistry
Organic chemistry
Biology
Microbiology
Anatomy
Physiology
Pathology
Psychology
Psychiatry
Nuclear science
Not to mention the education requirements for specialties.
When it comes to science, understanding science, being literate in science, scientific publishing, all things science related, a Doctor would have just as much credibility into the world of science as any other scientist that so much credence is given to.
The fact is, a lot of these climate science experts are political hacks, hiding behind science, much as Anthony Fauci did, to cover up his corruption and crimes against humanity.
Physics
Statics
Dynamics
Thermodynamics
Chemistry
Inorganic chemistry
Organic chemistry
Biology
Microbiology
Anatomy
Physiology
Pathology
Psychology
Psychiatry
Nuclear science
Not to mention the education requirements for specialties.
When it comes to science, understanding science, being literate in science, scientific publishing, all things science related, a Doctor would have just as much credibility into the world of science as any other scientist that so much credence is given to.
The fact is, a lot of these climate science experts are political hacks, hiding behind science, much as Anthony Fauci did, to cover up his corruption and crimes against humanity.
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What are the hard science disciplines a doctor (MD;DO) aka allopathic, and osteopathic are educated in.
Physics
Statics
Dynamics
Thermodynamics
Chemistry
Inorganic chemistry
Organic chemistry
Biology
Microbiology
Anatomy
Physiology
Pathology
Psychology
Psychiatry
Nuclear science
Not to mention the education requirements for specialties.
When it comes to science, understanding science, being literate in science, scientific publishing, all things science related, a Doctor would have just as much credibility into the world of science as any other scientist that so much credence is given to.
The fact is, a lot of these climate science experts are political hacks, hiding behind science, much as Anthony Fauci did, to cover up his corruption and crimes against humanity.
Physics
Statics
Dynamics
Thermodynamics
Chemistry
Inorganic chemistry
Organic chemistry
Biology
Microbiology
Anatomy
Physiology
Pathology
Psychology
Psychiatry
Nuclear science
Not to mention the education requirements for specialties.
When it comes to science, understanding science, being literate in science, scientific publishing, all things science related, a Doctor would have just as much credibility into the world of science as any other scientist that so much credence is given to.
The fact is, a lot of these climate science experts are political hacks, hiding behind science, much as Anthony Fauci did, to cover up his corruption and crimes against humanity.
Again, I will listen to the person who has a PhD from Yale in climatology, thanks. If I want to talk to someobody about the human body I will trust a Medical Doctor. Ask MDs how ridiculous it is when patients try and pretend they know more about their health.
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What are the hard science disciplines a doctor (MD;DO) aka allopathic, and osteopathic are educated in.
Physics
Statics
Dynamics
Thermodynamics
Chemistry
Inorganic chemistry
Organic chemistry
Biology
Microbiology
Anatomy
Physiology
Pathology
Psychology
Psychiatry
Nuclear science
Not to mention the education requirements for specialties.
When it comes to science, understanding science, being literate in science, scientific publishing, all things science related, a Doctor would have just as much credibility into the world of science as any other scientist that so much credence is given to.
The fact is, a lot of these climate science experts are political hacks, hiding behind science, much as Anthony Fauci did, to cover up his corruption and crimes against humanity.
Physics
Statics
Dynamics
Thermodynamics
Chemistry
Inorganic chemistry
Organic chemistry
Biology
Microbiology
Anatomy
Physiology
Pathology
Psychology
Psychiatry
Nuclear science
Not to mention the education requirements for specialties.
When it comes to science, understanding science, being literate in science, scientific publishing, all things science related, a Doctor would have just as much credibility into the world of science as any other scientist that so much credence is given to.
The fact is, a lot of these climate science experts are political hacks, hiding behind science, much as Anthony Fauci did, to cover up his corruption and crimes against humanity.
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I'm a PA, not a Doctor. I only practiced for 37 years before I retired....23 of them in the Army. Have not known many Health Care Proviers (in general) who would "present untrue informatiuon to serve their own purposes". The vast majority of my collegues were, like me, conscientious and hard working, and studied constantly to keep up with the scientific knowledge required to properly serve their patients. Maybe your experience is different? Just sayin.....
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I'm a PA, not a Doctor. I only practiced for 37 years before I retired....23 of them in the Army. Have not known many Health Care Proviers (in general) who would "present untrue informatiuon to serve their own purposes". The vast majority of my collegues were, like me, conscientious and hard working, and studied constantly to keep up with the scientific knowledge required to properly serve their patients. Maybe your experience is different? Just sayin.....
That’s my point about the scientists that sound the warnings about climate change. The majority of the scientific community does so, and just like in the medical field the majority of that community does so because they genuinely believe it to be true.
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Perhaps my point has been missed. Doctors have training and education in HARD sciences. They are by definition SCIENTISTS. Soft science disciplines like climatology do not by definition produce scientists. Any Doctor who has considered evidence, data, studies, and papers on the subject of climate change, has scientific opinions just as valid, maybe more so than the soft science climatologists. That field by the way is self serve from the get go. The more glow bull warming they say they find, or predict, the more grant money, salary, and tenure they get. Nice work if you can get it.
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Unless you have a degree in climatology I don't know about, you saying its not a major issue doesn't move the needle at all for me. I will listen to the people who do have such degrees and have made studying climate their life's work. Being a "Doctor" doesn't make somebody an expert in climate.
This is the issue with America, everybody is so arrogant and comfortable in their own ignorance they think they have the stature to argue with people who actually are experts in a field. We need to start valuing people's education, experience and credentials over our own agendas again.
This is the issue with America, everybody is so arrogant and comfortable in their own ignorance they think they have the stature to argue with people who actually are experts in a field. We need to start valuing people's education, experience and credentials over our own agendas again.
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Perhaps my point has been missed. Doctors have training and education in HARD sciences. They are by definition SCIENTISTS. Soft science disciplines like climatology do not by definition produce scientists. Any Doctor who has considered evidence, data, studies, and papers on the subject of climate change, has scientific opinions just as valid, maybe more so than the soft science climatologists. That field by the way is self serve from the get go. The more glow bull warming they say they find, or predict, the more grant money, salary, and tenure they get. Nice work if you can get it.
A PhD climatologist is not a “soft scientist”. In the case of my neighbor she has spent decades studying the climate, doing research and testing. She’s taken and analyzed ice cores in Antarctica, on and on.
The concept that a MD can review some studies and come up with conclusions that we should hold in the same regard as those of climate scientists who have spent their entire lives researching and studying the climate is totally absurd. You believe those people because they say what fits your narrative, objectively it’s totally absurd.
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