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Old Nov 19, 2024 | 12:00 PM
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3.0 seconds. 4.1 seconds. 4.8 seconds. All just way fast. Going to Target, the grocery store or work, all models we are talking about exceed any normal driving circumstances. I realize some people want the most blistering fast car available for special circumstances, but in day to day life all are great. I actually find the AMGs a little scary...they are like a gun that you have to handle well and know where you are pointing it.
I timed our Brand new Honda Pilot Black edition. It turned a 7.2 second 0-60.....It feels glacial. Even on ECO the 580 feels faster. The fact is that on ECO the 580 feels fast at city speeds because of the torque. It only affects driveabilty at 65 plus.
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Old Nov 21, 2024 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by nath_h
3.0 seconds. 4.1 seconds. 4.8 seconds. All just way fast. Going to Target, the grocery store or work, all models we are talking about exceed any normal driving circumstances. I realize some people want the most blistering fast car available for special circumstances, but in day to day life all are great. I actually find the AMGs a little scary...they are like a gun that you have to handle well and know where you are pointing it.
Agree completely. Been there, done that, bought the tee shirt. I've driven on track at COTA, and done 148 down the back straight (which is not straight) No way I want my 5000 lb vehicle going any faster than it already does. If I want that acceleration, I'll go back to an M4, Porsche, or other vehicle capable of handling the consequences of that kind of acceleration. The EQS is not the one for that. MY 450+ already accelerates as fast, if not faster, than my prior E350's. That's plenty fast for me. YMMV.

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Old Nov 22, 2024 | 08:03 AM
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Funny quote from Inside EV's article about the new Porsche Taycan related to this discussion.

"You’ll need that overboost power in Launch Mode to pull off a 0-60 run in 3.1 seconds, down from 3.5 seconds. These numbers are all roughly in line with the original Taycan Turbo and nip at the heels of the original Taycan Turbo S. If you think you need more power than this, you’re delusional, know a good attorney, or both."

The author seems to think we've already hit the point of ridiculous excess with these ultra fast/ultra high performance/expensive cars. I agree. Plus, for anyone holding the Porsche post warranty, can you imagine how expensive it would be to fix their Active Ride System? Hint, really expensive. Those of us with old MB with ABC suspension systems can give prospective owners a preview.

https://insideevs.com/reviews/741586...s-first-drive/
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Old Nov 22, 2024 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by nath_h
Those of us with old MB with ABC suspension systems can give prospective owners a preview.

https://insideevs.com/reviews/741586...s-first-drive/
So far my E-ABC has had no issues after 35k miles and my friend's GLE with 75k miles and E-ABC has also been fine. I wonder if the 48v version, without as many hydraulic lines, is more durable than the older versions, and maybe Porsche’s 400v version will be just as durable. I'm hoping the Porsche Active Ride (PAR) will live up to the cost and be durable. If you look through the forum here, there really aren't any issues with E-ABC besides it not being as good as pre-ABC. PAR looks like an amazing suspension on video but Thomas from autogefuehl didn't think it would be worth the price in one of his video reviews.

I'm also hoping Mercedes will update E-ABC. It really needs lidar to do roadscans because the stereo cameras just aren't reliable enough.

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Old Nov 22, 2024 | 09:21 PM
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The active suspension on my GLS 580 is the reason I had to sell it. Best frigging suspension ever made, till one day it simply dies and MB can't fix it! The "regular" MB air suspensions are fairly reliable and are not too expensive to maintain or fix. That said, I buy an extended warranty for all my MB vehicles since nothing is "cheap"on an MB, and some parts are ridiculously expensive.
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Old Nov 22, 2024 | 10:08 PM
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The active suspension on my GLS 580 is the reason I had to sell it. Best frigging suspension ever made, till one day it simply dies and MB can't fix it! The "regular" MB air suspensions are fairly reliable and are not too expensive to maintain or fix. That said, I buy an extended warranty for all my MB vehicles since nothing is "cheap"on an MB, and some parts are ridiculously expensive.
I feel like I might have read about your experience but maybe not. Can you please provide details since this would be a first? I couldn't find anything in your previous posts threads.

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Old Nov 22, 2024 | 10:15 PM
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I feel like I might have read about your experience but maybe not. Can you please provide details since this would be a first? I couldn't find anything in your previous posts.
Very simple one day it stopped working. 4 weeks at the dealer without a solution. The day I went to the dealer to sign the buyback it recovered by itself after just sitting in the lot for a few days. Sold it on carmax a week later. I loved the car but couldnt trust it after that. Great resale!
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Very simple one day it stopped working. 4 weeks at the dealer without a solution. The day I went to the dealer to sign the buyback it recovered by itself after just sitting in the lot for a few days. Sold it on carmax a week later. I loved the car but couldnt trust it after that. Great resale!
Okay I do remember reading that. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by wildta
So far my E-ABC has had no issues after 35k miles and my friend's GLE with 75k miles and E-ABC has also been fine. I wonder if the 48v version, without as many hydraulic lines, is more durable than the older versions, and maybe Porsche’s 400v version will be just as durable. I'm hoping the Porsche Active Ride (PAR) will live up to the cost and be durable. If you look through the forum here, there really aren't any issues with E-ABC besides it not being as good as pre-ABC. PAR looks like an amazing suspension on video but Thomas from autogefuehl didn't think it would be worth the price in one of his video reviews.

I'm also hoping Mercedes will update E-ABC. It really needs lidar to do roadscans because the stereo cameras just aren't reliable enough.
I'm talking old school ABC--like 2000-2010. Mine is a 2008. Hopefully systems like yours are more durable than the old stuff. But, parts age, and mechanics retire. Expertise in old ABC systems is hard to find. Most guys working at MB were in elementary school when these cars came out. And parts go out of production, like lines. We'll see what things look like for today's highly advanced systems in 15 years, but my prediction is expensive and troublesome. The more I work on my old 2008, the more I realize MB rolled these out of the factory with no care or concern about how these would do post warranty, let alone 16 years later. I doubt that idea has changed.
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Originally Posted by nath_h
3.0 seconds. 4.1 seconds. 4.8 seconds. All just way fast. Going to Target, the grocery store or work, all models we are talking about exceed any normal driving circumstances. I realize some people want the most blistering fast car available for special circumstances, but in day to day life all are great. I actually find the AMGs a little scary...they are like a gun that you have to handle well and know where you are pointing it.
Where I live there are older highways and expressways with limited onramps and merge lanes. The extra power is handy when merging into fast, heavy traffic on these short ramps.
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