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Old Jul 3, 2025 | 07:52 PM
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Deep Dive: Intelligent Recuperation - From Gimmick to Game-Changer

Deep Dive: Intelligent Recuperation - From Gimmick to Game-Changer



For anyone who has followed my posts, it's no secret that I have been highly critical of the "Intelligent Recuperation" (D Auto) feature in the past. My experience with it on my previous MY23 450 turned me off of it completely; it was an unpredictable guessing game that felt more like a gimmick than a useful tool.

However, as a matter of principle, whenever I find myself leaning too far for or against something, I make a point to probe deeper—a process I call seeking "Contrary Evidence."

So, I forced myself to re-evaluate the feature on my new MY24 580. The result was a genuine surprise, and it has prompted a complete reassessment.

Let's do a proper deep dive into what this system is, how it has evolved, and why it has gone from a feature I would have told everyone to turn off to a true game-changer.

What It Is (The Official Line): Intelligent Recuperation, or D Auto, is a predictive system that uses the car's forward-facing radar, cameras, and navigation map data to automatically adjust the level of energy regeneration.

The "Insider" Dissection: The "Intelligent Overlap"

To truly understand D Auto, you have to understand that it doesn't operate in a vacuum. Its behavior is directly influenced by other key systems. Think of it like this:
  • The "Eyes" (Traffic Sign Assist): This is the camera system that constantly reads speed limit signs. Its only job is to identify the legal speed limit. It is the information gatherer.
  • The "Cruise Control Brain" (Active Speed Limit Assist): This is a specific sub-feature of Distronic. When your cruise control is on, this is the system that gives the car permission to act on the information from the "eyes" and automatically adjust your set cruise speed.
  • The "Coasting Brain" (Intelligent Recuperation / D Auto): This system's primary inputs are the forward-facing radar (for cars ahead) and the navigation map data (for curves and intersections).
Here is the key: If Active Speed Limit Assist is ON, it also gives permission to D Auto to react to speed limit signs. This is the source of the "unpredictable" feeling. With this setting on, D Auto will not only slow you for the car ahead, but it will also proactively apply recuperation to slow you down when it detects a new, lower speed limit sign, even when you are not using cruise control.

My Reassessment: The MY24 Software Step-Change

The difference between the MY23 and MY24 experience is not a fluke; it is the direct result of a significant software and calibration overhaul Mercedes rolled out for the 2024 model year. This was a direct response to feedback from early adopters who found the initial system too unpredictable. This is the exact same feedback loop, by the way, that led to the much-improved brake pedal feel in the '24 models.

The new software logic has transformed the D Auto experience. The car now intelligently "coasts" on an open road, but as it closes the range on a vehicle ahead, it will intelligently begin to recuperate, smoothly slowing down and even coming to a complete stop. And to clarify the "resume" function: when D Auto brings you to a stop behind another car (with Distronic off), it will not start moving again on its own. However, when the car in front moves, a small visual cue appears on the display. This is the car's intelligent way of saying, "The path is now clear. You may proceed."

The Verdict (The "So What?"): This updated behavior has transformed D Auto from a feature I once dismissed into a true one-pedal driving mode that is far more sensible and intuitive than it was before. It's a remarkable and unexpected improvement.

The Question for the Community: My question for other MY24+ owners is this: Have you had a similar "revelatory" experience with D Auto, or do you still find it too unpredictable for daily use?
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Old Jul 3, 2025 | 08:32 PM
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Deep Dive: Intelligent Recuperation - From Gimmick to Game-Changer



For anyone who has followed my posts, it's no secret that I have been highly critical of the "Intelligent Recuperation" (D Auto) feature in the past. My experience with it on my previous MY23 450 turned me off of it completely; it was an unpredictable guessing game that felt more like a gimmick than a useful tool.

However, as a matter of principle, whenever I find myself leaning too far for or against something, I make a point to probe deeper—a process I call seeking "Contrary Evidence."

So, I forced myself to re-evaluate the feature on my new MY24 580. The result was a genuine surprise, and it has prompted a complete reassessment.

Let's do a proper deep dive into what this system is, how it has evolved, and why it has gone from a feature I would have told everyone to turn off to a true game-changer.

What It Is (The Official Line): Intelligent Recuperation, or D Auto, is a predictive system that uses the car's forward-facing radar, cameras, and navigation map data to automatically adjust the level of energy regeneration.

The "Insider" Dissection: The "Intelligent Overlap"

To truly understand D Auto, you have to understand that it doesn't operate in a vacuum. Its behavior is directly influenced by other key systems. Think of it like this:
  • The "Eyes" (Traffic Sign Assist): This is the camera system that constantly reads speed limit signs. Its only job is to identify the legal speed limit. It is the information gatherer.
  • The "Cruise Control Brain" (Active Speed Limit Assist): This is a specific sub-feature of Distronic. When your cruise control is on, this is the system that gives the car permission to act on the information from the "eyes" and automatically adjust your set cruise speed.
  • The "Coasting Brain" (Intelligent Recuperation / D Auto): This system's primary inputs are the forward-facing radar (for cars ahead) and the navigation map data (for curves and intersections).
Here is the key: If Active Speed Limit Assist is ON, it also gives permission to D Auto to react to speed limit signs. This is the source of the "unpredictable" feeling. With this setting on, D Auto will not only slow you for the car ahead, but it will also proactively apply recuperation to slow you down when it detects a new, lower speed limit sign, even when you are not using cruise control.

My Reassessment: The MY24 Software Step-Change

The difference between the MY23 and MY24 experience is not a fluke; it is the direct result of a significant software and calibration overhaul Mercedes rolled out for the 2024 model year. This was a direct response to feedback from early adopters who found the initial system too unpredictable. This is the exact same feedback loop, by the way, that led to the much-improved brake pedal feel in the '24 models.

The new software logic has transformed the D Auto experience. The car now intelligently "coasts" on an open road, but as it closes the range on a vehicle ahead, it will intelligently begin to recuperate, smoothly slowing down and even coming to a complete stop. And to clarify the "resume" function: when D Auto brings you to a stop behind another car (with Distronic off), it will not start moving again on its own. However, when the car in front moves, a small visual cue appears on the display. This is the car's intelligent way of saying, "The path is now clear. You may proceed."

The Verdict (The "So What?"): This updated behavior has transformed D Auto from a feature I once dismissed into a true one-pedal driving mode that is far more sensible and intuitive than it was before. It's a remarkable and unexpected improvement.

The Question for the Community: My question for other MY24+ owners is this: Have you had a similar "revelatory" experience with D Auto, or do you still find it too unpredictable for daily use?
I have been almost always using the one pedal driving option (D-). But after reading your comments, I need to experiment with the D Auto option now. I find that the D- is not very smooth in slowing down if a car a couple hundred feet ahead is at a complete stop. It breaks rather suddenly at times. I don’t like that and neither does my insurance company, State Farm.

Thanks for your complete analysis of this topic.

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Old Jul 3, 2025 | 09:09 PM
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There may be a difference between the implementation of this on the EQS and EQE. I find that the MY23 EQE SUV operates the way you have described it for the MY24+.

It is my preferred mode for one-pedal driving compared to Strong Reg, as the latter may not timely bring the car to a smooth stop behind a stopped vehicle ahead. Intel mode gives added driving confidence that the braking system will handle any momentary distractions.
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Old Jul 4, 2025 | 11:13 AM
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@AppleFan1 this is exactly what happens to me. When I am driving in heavy traffic on a highway (almost every week), I find my 2024 EQS 4MATIC suddenly hit the brakes when there was ample time to brake earlier. It doesn't happen often, but lets say around 40% - 50% of the times. What is "D-"? I don't use strong recuperation. I just use the regular setting (says "Normal"). What did you change? I am not sure if I need to play with active braking, distance between cars (makes no difference when I tested) or something else.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by AppleFan1
I have been almost always using the one pedal driving option (D-). But after reading your comments, I need to experiment with the D Auto option now. I find that the D- is not very smooth in slowing down if a car a couple hundred feet ahead is at a complete stop. It breaks rather suddenly at times. I don’t like that and neither does my insurance company, State Farm.

Thanks for your complete analysis of this topic.
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I have been almost always using the one pedal driving option (D-). But after reading your comments, I need to experiment with the D Auto option now. I find that the D- is not very smooth in slowing down if a car a couple hundred feet ahead is at a complete stop. It breaks rather suddenly at times. I don’t like that and neither does my insurance company, State Farm.

Thanks for your complete analysis of this topic.
Originally Posted by nevermindme
@AppleFan1 this is exactly what happens to me. When I am driving in heavy traffic on a highway (almost every week), I find my 2024 EQS 4MATIC suddenly hit the brakes when there was ample time to brake earlier. It doesn't happen often, but lets say around 40% - 50% of the times. What is "D-"? I don't use strong recuperation. I just use the regular setting (says "Normal"). What did you change? I am not sure if I need to play with active braking, distance between cars (makes no difference when I tested) or something else.

Thanks.
​​​​​​Hey @AppleFan1 and @nevermindme ,Your two posts, taken together, perfectly frame what I like to call the "Goldilocks Paradox" of the Mercedes driving systems. It's a constant search for the bowl of porridge that's "just right," but the confusion often comes from not realizing you're tasting from two different pots entirely.

Let's dissect this.

Part 1: The Four Bowls of Porridge (A Deep Dive on Recuperation)



First, let's do a thorough breakdown of the recuperation system itself, controlled by the paddles. Each mode is a distinct engineering philosophy.
  • D+ (No Recuperation - "The Coaster"): This is the "too cold" bowl for many. It decouples the motors to allow the car to "sail" or coast with minimal resistance. While this is technically the most efficient mode for open-highway driving (as it avoids energy conversion losses), in a car this heavy, the complete lack of inherent drag can feel unsettling and, from my perspective, downright unsafe in certain situations.
  • D- (Strong Recuperation - "The Blunt Instrument"): This is the "too hot" bowl. It's brilliant for one-pedal driving in dense traffic, but its deceleration is a fixed, aggressive application of regenerative braking. It's a simple on/off switch designed to capture a high amount of energy, which is why it will always feel somewhat abrupt when you lift off the accelerator, regardless of what's in front of you.
  • D (Normal Recuperation - "The Sweet Spot"): This is the "just right" bowl for most drivers. It's engineered to provide a low, fixed level of recuperation that perfectly mimics the familiar and predictable feel of light "engine braking" in a traditional internal combustion vehicle.
  • D Auto (Intelligent Recuperation - "The Magic Fourth Bowl"): This is the complex, predictive system that I've covered in a separate deep dive, which has its own unique set of behaviors.

Part 2: A Diagnostic Question for @AppleFan1



You've perfectly described the core issue with D-—it can feel abrupt. To get to the root cause of the "sudden braking" you're feeling, here's a clarifying question:

Is the abruptness a general, aggressive deceleration that happens the moment you lift off the accelerator, or is it a separate, harder braking event that occurs only as you get very close to the car in front?

The answer tells us which system is at play:
  • If it's the general abruptness, that is the inherent nature of D-. It's a blunt instrument.
  • If it's a separate, harder braking event at the end, that is likely the Active Brake Assist system intervening because it has calculated that the fixed deceleration of D- is not sufficient to avoid a potential collision.
This brings us to a key "insider" setting. Even if you're not actively using cruise control, you can adjust the aggressiveness of the car's automated braking profile.
  • The Fix: Go to Settings > Assistance > Driving > Distronic.
  • The Setting: You will find an option for "Driving Style" with three choices: Dynamic, Normal, and Comfortable.
  • The Solution: Switching this to "Comfortable" tells the car's underlying safety systems to be more progressive and less abrupt with any automated braking intervention. This can significantly smooth out those final, jarring stops.

Part 3: Addressing @nevermindme's Experience - The "Fire Alarm"



Your situation is a perfect example of confusing the porridge with the fire alarm. The "sudden braking" you're experiencing in "Normal" (D) recuperation is not the recuperation system.

You are experiencing the Active Brake Assist "fire alarm." Because "Normal" regen provides very little deceleration, you are getting closer to the car ahead than the system is comfortable with, and it is intervening to prevent a collision.

Now, for the crucial detail you mentioned: the distance setting on the steering wheel. That setting only functions when Distronic is active. It has zero effect on the recuperation modes or the Active Brake Assist system. It is exclusively a cruise control setting.
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Old Jul 4, 2025 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by J_Boxer
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  • D (Normal Recuperation - "The Sweet Spot"): This is the "just right" bowl for most drivers. It's engineered to provide a low, fixed level of recuperation that perfectly mimics the familiar and predictable feel of light "engine braking" in a traditional internal combustion vehicle
[snip]
  • The Fix: Go to Settings > Assistance > Driving > Distronic
  • The Setting: You will find an option for "Driving Style" with three choices: Dynamic, Normal, and Comfortable.
  • The Solution: Switching this to "Comfortable" tells the car's underlying safety systems to be more progressive and less abrupt with any automated braking intervention. This can significantly smooth out those final, jarring stops.
[snip]

Part 3: Addressing @nevermindme's Experience - The "Fire Alarm"


Your situation is a perfect example of confusing the porridge with the fire alarm. The "sudden braking" you're experiencing in "Normal" (D) recuperation is not the recuperation system.

You are experiencing the Active Brake Assist "fire alarm." Because "Normal" regen provides very little deceleration, you are getting closer to the car ahead than the system is comfortable with, and it is intervening to prevent a collision.

Now, for the crucial detail you mentioned: the distance setting on the steering wheel. That setting only functions when Distronic is active. It has zero effect on the recuperation modes or the Active Brake Assist system. It is exclusively a cruise control setting.
Thank you @J_Boxer
I've distilled your response to things I checked:

a) Thanks for the clarification this is the braking assist at play
b) I checked my Active Distance Assist Distronic setting, it is already set to 'comfort'
c) I checked my "Fire Alarm" active braking assist setting and that is set to 'Medium' (vs 'Late' or 'Early')

Based on what you are saying, maybe I should try 'Late' but I wonder if that will result in a bigger jerk at the end.
It is odd to me that ABA intervenes harshly when I am using its driving assist - they should be, in regular operation, talking to each other vs. one deciding the other is not slowing down enough. That almost sounds like a 'panic button' which is fair, but shouldn't be occurring often especially when I could see there was ample time to slow down. This is also exactly why I haven't enabled the State Farm app :-)

Incidentally, there isn't any beep or emergency flash when this happens (as described in MB's Active Braking Assist video), so I don't know if its the fire alarm as described.


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Originally Posted by nevermindme
Thank you @J_Boxer
I've distilled your response to things I checked:

a) Thanks for the clarification this is the braking assist at play
b) I checked my Active Distance Assist Distronic setting, it is already set to 'comfort'
c) I checked my "Fire Alarm" active braking assist setting and that is set to 'Medium' (vs 'Late' or 'Early')

Based on what you are saying, maybe I should try 'Late' but I wonder if that will result in a bigger jerk at the end.
It is odd to me that ABA intervenes harshly when I am using its driving assist - they should be, in regular operation, talking to each other vs. one deciding the other is not slowing down enough. That almost sounds like a 'panic button' which is fair, but shouldn't be occurring often especially when I could see there was ample time to slow down. This is also exactly why I haven't enabled the State Farm app :-)

Incidentally, there isn't any beep or emergency flash when this happens (as described in MB's Active Braking Assist video), so I don't know if its the fire alarm as described.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW5xeFAIcRA
That's a fantastic, detailed follow-up, and you're right to question my "fire alarm" analogy, as your experience points to a more nuanced reality. In my attempt to simplify, I was too broad. Let's dissect this.

There are different levels of "abrupt," and we need to distinguish between them. There's the full-panic, "loss of bodily function" braking with all the bells and whistles, and then there's the "firmer deceleration" you're describing. My interpretation is that you are experiencing the Active Brake Assist system's first stage of intervention, not the full emergency stop.

I've had the exact same experience, especially in heavier traffic when a turn lane widens. The car ahead leaves what a human driver sees as ample room to maneuver, but the car's more conservative logic sees a rapidly closing gap and applies that firm, pre-emptive braking to mitigate a potential risk.

Your observation that the systems should be "talking to each other" is the core of the issue. They are, but they have different priorities. The Distronic "Comfort" setting is focused on smoothness. Active Brake Assist is a separate safety override with a zero-tolerance policy for what it perceives as risk. It will always win that argument.

Regarding your question about the "Late" setting: I would strongly advise against it. In my experience, that setting doesn't make the car less likely to intervene; it just makes the intervention happen later and therefore, even more aggressively.

It's a fascinating and sometimes frustrating interplay between convenience and safety systems. Thanks for the great follow-up that allowed for this deeper dissection. Let me know if that distinction between a pre-emptive 'firm deceleration' and the full 'fire alarm' stop is a better description of what you're feeling.
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Old Jul 5, 2025 | 08:33 AM
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T Let me know if that distinction between a pre-emptive 'firm deceleration' and the full 'fire alarm' stop is a better description of what you're feeling.
Yes, thank you, it does.
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Originally Posted by nevermindme
@AppleFan1 this is exactly what happens to me. When I am driving in heavy traffic on a highway (almost every week), I find my 2024 EQS 4MATIC suddenly hit the brakes when there was ample time to brake earlier. It doesn't happen often, but lets say around 40% - 50% of the times. What is "D-"? I don't use strong recuperation. I just use the regular setting (says "Normal"). What did you change? I am not sure if I need to play with active braking, distance between cars (makes no difference when I tested) or something else.

Thanks.
I am sure you know by now from this thread that D- is strong recuperation. Click twice on the left hand pedal on steering wheel and you will get D- .
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Originally Posted by J_Boxer
​​​​​​Hey @AppleFan1 and @nevermindme ,Your two posts, taken together, perfectly frame what I like to call the "Goldilocks Paradox" of the Mercedes driving systems. It's a constant search for the bowl of porridge that's "just right," but the confusion often comes from not realizing you're tasting from two different pots entirely.

Let's dissect this.

Part 1: The Four Bowls of Porridge (A Deep Dive on Recuperation)



First, let's do a thorough breakdown of the recuperation system itself, controlled by the paddles. Each mode is a distinct engineering philosophy.
  • D+ (No Recuperation - "The Coaster"): This is the "too cold" bowl for many. It decouples the motors to allow the car to "sail" or coast with minimal resistance. While this is technically the most efficient mode for open-highway driving (as it avoids energy conversion losses), in a car this heavy, the complete lack of inherent drag can feel unsettling and, from my perspective, downright unsafe in certain situations.
  • D- (Strong Recuperation - "The Blunt Instrument"): This is the "too hot" bowl. It's brilliant for one-pedal driving in dense traffic, but its deceleration is a fixed, aggressive application of regenerative braking. It's a simple on/off switch designed to capture a high amount of energy, which is why it will always feel somewhat abrupt when you lift off the accelerator, regardless of what's in front of you.
  • D (Normal Recuperation - "The Sweet Spot"): This is the "just right" bowl for most drivers. It's engineered to provide a low, fixed level of recuperation that perfectly mimics the familiar and predictable feel of light "engine braking" in a traditional internal combustion vehicle.
  • D Auto (Intelligent Recuperation - "The Magic Fourth Bowl"): This is the complex, predictive system that I've covered in a separate deep dive, which has its own unique set of behaviors.

Part 2: A Diagnostic Question for @AppleFan1



You've perfectly described the core issue with D-—it can feel abrupt. To get to the root cause of the "sudden braking" you're feeling, here's a clarifying question:

Is the abruptness a general, aggressive deceleration that happens the moment you lift off the accelerator, or is it a separate, harder braking event that occurs only as you get very close to the car in front?

The answer tells us which system is at play:
  • If it's the general abruptness, that is the inherent nature of D-. It's a blunt instrument.
  • If it's a separate, harder braking event at the end, that is likely the Active Brake Assist system intervening because it has calculated that the fixed deceleration of D- is not sufficient to avoid a potential collision.
This brings us to a key "insider" setting. Even if you're not actively using cruise control, you can adjust the aggressiveness of the car's automated braking profile.
  • The Fix: Go to Settings > Assistance > Driving > Distronic.
  • The Setting: You will find an option for "Driving Style" with three choices: Dynamic, Normal, and Comfortable.
  • The Solution: Switching this to "Comfortable" tells the car's underlying safety systems to be more progressive and less abrupt with any automated braking intervention. This can significantly smooth out those final, jarring stops.

Part 3: Addressing @nevermindme's Experience - The "Fire Alarm"



Your situation is a perfect example of confusing the porridge with the fire alarm. The "sudden braking" you're experiencing in "Normal" (D) recuperation is not the recuperation system.

You are experiencing the Active Brake Assist "fire alarm." Because "Normal" regen provides very little deceleration, you are getting closer to the car ahead than the system is comfortable with, and it is intervening to prevent a collision.

Now, for the crucial detail you mentioned: the distance setting on the steering wheel. That setting only functions when Distronic is active. It has zero effect on the recuperation modes or the Active Brake Assist system. It is exclusively a cruise control setting.
Sorry for the late reply. The abruptness occurs when I get closer to a stopped car in front. I will play around with your recommendations later today.
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Originally Posted by nevermindme
Thank you @J_Boxer
I've distilled your response to things I checked:

a) Thanks for the clarification this is the braking assist at play
b) I checked my Active Distance Assist Distronic setting, it is already set to 'comfort'
c) I checked my "Fire Alarm" active braking assist setting and that is set to 'Medium' (vs 'Late' or 'Early')

Based on what you are saying, maybe I should try 'Late' but I wonder if that will result in a bigger jerk at the end.
It is odd to me that ABA intervenes harshly when I am using its driving assist - they should be, in regular operation, talking to each other vs. one deciding the other is not slowing down enough. That almost sounds like a 'panic button' which is fair, but shouldn't be occurring often especially when I could see there was ample time to slow down. This is also exactly why I haven't enabled the State Farm app :-)

Incidentally, there isn't any beep or emergency flash when this happens (as described in MB's Active Braking Assist video), so I don't know if its the fire alarm as described.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW5xeFAIcRA
How does one get to active breaking assist to see if it’s set on “early” or “late?? It must be simple but I cannot locate it on the 2025 EQS 580.

Never mind. I just found it. It’s under collision avoidance. Mine was set to medium. I now changed it to early.

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J-Boxer, thank you again for your help. I now have it on the settings you suggested. I’ll test it tomorrow (Monday).
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I did some testing today. The strong recuperation D- seems to be smoother. However, D Auto doesn’t work as smoothly.
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I've done a lot of experimenting with the regen, brake assist, and distronic. I just haven't had the time to write it all up and be as articulate as you. Thanks for having this discussion.

The 23' AMG seems to behave the way you have described for the MY24. Here's a few of my experiences:

In distronic, the NA EQS is left hand dominant. That means that if the road losses both right and left marker lanes, the EQS will drift to the left. Where I drive, I have many situations in which HOV lanes split and merge. The EQS will always drift to the left in search of a marker.

With enough experience, I can come to a quick stop or a smooth stop in ANY regen mode. In strong regen, I can modulate my right foot as I'm closing in on the traffic ahead. If the situation requires additional stopping power, the left foot, which hovers and rest on the modulating brake pedal control by the strong regen, can applies additional pressure on the brake pedal as needed. There's no surprise as to the current position of the brake pedal. Keep in mind that most of the time, this is aggressive driving, and sometimes or rarely in heavy traffic condition.

In the normal regen mode, the driving mood is relax and don't care too much about the cars around me. This is one foot driving. When there's traffic up ahead, release the accelerator pedal , and the default regen is 20%. If additional braking is needed, step on the brake and the percentage of regen can go up as high as 80%-90%. Because the drive mood is relax, 50-60% regen is needed sometimes while most of the time, 20-40% is applied (20% automatic by the normal regen.)

In no regen, drive mood is relax long freeway light traffic or driving slower or same speed as traffic. Laid back, relaxed, massage on, and good relaxing music playing. No more no less.

Generally, I drive in strong and normal regen. None of my passengers complain about jerky stops or neck lean forward stops. They just complain about neck popping back and butterfly stomachs on departures. For that, I do warn them in advance.

In summary, the AMG guys (and MB as whole) did a fantastic job with regen. Petro heads like me just have to get use to it in the beginning. Just like the sound thing. I now prefer the silent acceleration over the sound acceleration. In physics, you feel the G-force before you hear the sonic boom. Car noise and speed has been engrained in our brains so long, some of us can't get away from it.
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Old Jul 8, 2025 | 01:09 AM
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Regarding the collision avoidance, there seems to be some confusions. Setting it to Late seems to cause more false emergency braking for me. I set it to Late because when drive fast and switch lanes in tight traffic, the systems always seems to set off the assist braking warning. However, Late setting does not mitigate that but causes more sensitivity to cars entering a 2 lane road that I drive on. For example, I drive on the left lane. A car at the intersections on the right turns right onto the right lane. He/she keeps their right lane, but the EQS will do neck popping brake tap and beep with seat belt tightening action. So, set it back to medium. I have not tried Early because I was afraid it would get involve too early when on fast highway lane change in close traffic.
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After reading through the excellent experiences and questions in this thread, I wanted to add a final, and perhaps counter-intuitive, layer to this deep dive: the case for why D Auto is not just the most intuitive mode, but also the undisputed champion for maximizing range.

Before diving into the data, it's worth exploring the psychology of why this concept feels so counter-intuitive. It's a classic conflict between what our brain feels is right and what the laws of physics dictate.

When you're in D- (Strong Regen), you get a powerful, positive feedback loop. You lift your foot, the car slows aggressively, and the power meter swings deep into the green 'CHARGE' zone. It's a visceral reward; it feels like you are actively creating a massive amount of free energy. When the car coasts (the foundation of D Auto's efficiency), the meter sits at zero. It feels passive, like nothing is happening.

The psychological trap is that our brains are wired to value the visible, active reward (the big green bar) over the invisible, passive benefit (not losing momentum). We mistake the magnitude of recaptured energy for the net overall efficiency. The real-world data, however, tells a different story.

## Scenario 1: Approaching a Stoplight



Imagine a stoplight turns red 500 feet ahead.
  • The D- Driver: You lift off the accelerator. The car immediately applies strong, fixed regeneration and slows you down too quickly, so you have to re-apply the accelerator to close the final 100-foot gap. You've spent energy twice.
  • The D Auto Car: You lift off the accelerator. The car's radar sees the stopped traffic and applies a perfect, gentle amount of regeneration to bring the car to a smooth stop right at the line. It only had to spend energy once.

## Scenario 2: Stop-and-Go Traffic



This is where the numbers become even clearer. Let's say it takes 10 watt-hours (Wh) of energy for a short burst of acceleration.
  • The D- Driver: You accelerate (spending 10 Wh), then lift off. The strong regen recaptures ~70% of that energy. You get 7 Wh back. Your net cost for the maneuver is 3 Wh.
  • The D Auto Car: The radar knows you're in traffic and smoothly creeps forward, only needing to spend 5 Wh in the first place. When it gently slows, it recaptures 70% of that, getting 3.5 Wh back. Its net cost is only 1.5 Wh.
D- recaptured more energy in absolute terms, but it was wildly inefficient because it spent far more energy to begin with. D Auto is smarter because it minimizes the initial energy spend, which is the key to maximizing range.
So while my original post focused on the improved usability of D Auto, this analysis shows that it's also the most intelligent choice from a pure efficiency standpoint. It's a perfect marriage of a seamless driving experience and a brilliant energy-saving strategy.
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Recuperative braking never seemed like a gimmick to me. It made perfect sense. I have owned manual transmission cars for the bulk of my time since I first earned my drivers license.
I quickly mastered the art of downshifting as a means of slowing the car, to minimize the use of friction braking, while adding minimal wear to the clutch by speed matching on the downshift.
Both techniques have enough similarities that would make a transition from one to the other fairly seamless.
Don’t get me wrong, I do like performance. The best way to engage performance for the efficiency minded is using these 2 techniques. Of course, if pure efficiency is the goal, the same techniques apply with a reduction in the use of performance.

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J-Boxer there’s one thing in your incredible post that confuses me. You state that Distronic should be disengaged/off in the D Auto for stop and go traffic. If I’m not mistaken, if the stopped car in front of you starts to move the 2024 and 2025 EQS 580 will automatically move forward as well. How is this possible if Distronic is off? Maybe I don’t understand exactly what Distronic is. Isn’t this feature on the left side of the steering wheel where one button says set/resume and another says cancel? I don’t think my car will move automatically if the cancel button is pushed and the car in front moves again. I bet there is something that I’m missing on this topic.
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Originally Posted by AppleFan1
J-Boxer there’s one thing in your incredible post that confuses me. You state that Distronic should be disengaged/off in the D Auto for stop and go traffic. If I’m not mistaken, if the stopped car in front of you starts to move the 2024 and 2025 EQS 580 will automatically move forward as well. How is this possible if Distronic is off? Maybe I don’t understand exactly what Distronic is. Isn’t this feature on the left side of the steering wheel where one button says set/resume and another says cancel? I don’t think my car will move automatically if the cancel button is pushed and the car in front moves again. I bet there is something that I’m missing on this topic.
That's a sharp observation, and I can see exactly how my original wording created that confusion.

My phrase "(with Distronic off)" wasn't a recommendation to turn the system off; it was a diagnostic description to isolate one system's behavior from the other. You've highlighted a subtle but crucial point about how these two systems work together.

Think of it like being a rally car driver. You have a smart co-driver, and you also have an advanced autopilot system.

D Auto (Intelligent Recuperation) is your smart co-driver. Their only job is to look at the road ahead and tell you exactly when and how much to slow down. When you lift off the gas, your co-driver (D Auto) helps you brake perfectly, right down to a complete stop. But once you're stopped, they are waiting for you, the driver, to get back on the accelerator.

DISTRONIC is the advanced autopilot. When you engage it with the buttons on your steering wheel, you are handing over control of both the brake and the accelerator. The autopilot will slow down, stop, and then automatically get back on the gas for you when the path is clear.

So, the "auto-resume" feature you're thinking of belongs exclusively to the autopilot (DISTRONIC). My original point was just to clarify what your "co-driver" (D Auto) is capable of doing on its own. For the full, seamless stop-and-go experience, you absolutely want them working together.
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Like LastOne, my experience with Intelligent Recuperation on my 2023 EQE SUV has always been like you describe for your MY2024 EQS 580.
I love it and use it 100% of the time.
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