New LR Defender 110
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Yeah Land Rover really doesn't have motivation to improve reliability and JD Power rankings as they usually sell well. Plus the buyers they care about are the ones buying new who are unlikely to keep the car past the warranty period any way.
Actually that goes for most luxury brands, there's a reason why most "reliable" vehicles are cheaper ones like Honda and Toyotas. You can find people with anecdotal stories about how [luxury brand] is junk, including Land Rover, Mercedes, BMW, Audi, etc.
Brands don't care about reputation as long as the cars are being sold.
Actually that goes for most luxury brands, there's a reason why most "reliable" vehicles are cheaper ones like Honda and Toyotas. You can find people with anecdotal stories about how [luxury brand] is junk, including Land Rover, Mercedes, BMW, Audi, etc.
Brands don't care about reputation as long as the cars are being sold.
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That’s funny! Great way to start the day. Among all my friends with high-end cars, the universal truth is that Land Rover is junk. And all speak from direct experience of having owned one, or knowing someone who has.
I don’t base my beliefs on surveys, which can be easily skewed- but on direct experience from me or people I know.
I don’t base my beliefs on surveys, which can be easily skewed- but on direct experience from me or people I know.
August
Range Rover - 1,435
S-Class (sedan + coupe + convert.) - 926
7 Series - 762
Panamera - 423
911 - 382
G Class - 373
AMG-GT (coupe + four door) - 338
A8/S8 - 164
SL -123
i8 - 110
R8 - 35
The ones who probably complain about them being junk are used car buyers who buy them many years old. They appear pretty reliable during the 24-36 month lease or when the person who buys them cash or finances wants a new one (which is probably the same duration).
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You somehow made friends with people who all do and think the opposite of market trends. I’m not looking at surveys, I’m looking at sales of other vehicles with average sales price above $100k. It really stands out of the pack so it’s interesting that they’re very popular, have the highest rate of repeat buyers of any high end car yet your friends who have them all think they’re junk . Doesn’t match with reality.
August
Range Rover - 1,435
S-Class (sedan + coupe + convert.) - 926
7 Series - 762
Panamera - 423
911 - 382
G Class - 373
AMG-GT (coupe + four door) - 338
A8/S8 - 164
SL -123
i8 - 110
R8 - 35
The ones who probably complain about them being junk are used car buyers who buy them many years old. They appear pretty reliable during the 24-36 month lease or when the person who buys them cash or finances wants a new one (which is probably the same duration).
August
Range Rover - 1,435
S-Class (sedan + coupe + convert.) - 926
7 Series - 762
Panamera - 423
911 - 382
G Class - 373
AMG-GT (coupe + four door) - 338
A8/S8 - 164
SL -123
i8 - 110
R8 - 35
The ones who probably complain about them being junk are used car buyers who buy them many years old. They appear pretty reliable during the 24-36 month lease or when the person who buys them cash or finances wants a new one (which is probably the same duration).
The 5 RR I mentioned in my previous post were all under 2 years old (4 of them not older than 6 months) and had problems. Sure the problems accumulate with age but when the new ones have them its bad.
The survey I linked cover the model from 2013 til present and was made in 2018. So not exactly old beaters.
I can list even more people I know that have had problems with them but as you say, they buy a new one anyway because there is no alternative. So of course the sales figures look great even though reliability is low.
