Who's Paying MSRP in Cali
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It's not that simple.
The import duty tax on cars in China is extremely high (eg. over 100%). So yes, although there is profit to be made from exporting cars from the US into China, the amount of the profit is no where near as much as you think. Also, getting the cars registered legally with plates in China is also another area that requires significant networking and knowledge. There is no easy buck here.
The import duty tax on cars in China is extremely high (eg. over 100%). So yes, although there is profit to be made from exporting cars from the US into China, the amount of the profit is no where near as much as you think. Also, getting the cars registered legally with plates in China is also another area that requires significant networking and knowledge. There is no easy buck here.
The main problem with the mark-up from dealers is the demand of the car locally and internationally. In china, the car sells for around 4,000,000 RMB which is around 565,000$ USD. There are a lot of people who are in the business to export these vehicles but the G-wagon has been known to have mark-up even with the older models. Ill send you a PM to a contact who might be able to sell you one at MSRP.
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This is interesting news. I put in an order for a G 550 in the middle of September. About three weeks later my salesman called to say that they had an estimated build date of December. Last week I checked in and he said the estimated build date had been moved back to November ??? He projected that the unit would hit the ground four to six weeks after it is built. Full disclosure...I have no affiliation with the dealership or MB. Just a customer for many years and many cars. No markup and perhaps a discount. Certainly not to the extent of other vehicles I have purchased. But that's OK. I admit, the jury is still out but I will document the progress moving forward. Perhaps the market is shifting and supply is catching up to demand.
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This is interesting news. I put in an order for a G 550 in the middle of September. About three weeks later my salesman called to say that they had an estimated build date of December. Last week I checked in and he said the estimated build date had been moved back to November ??? He projected that the unit would hit the ground four to six weeks after it is built. Full disclosure...I have no affiliation with the dealership or MB. Just a customer for many years and many cars. No markup and perhaps a discount. Certainly not to the extent of other vehicles I have purchased. But that's OK. I admit, the jury is still out but I will document the progress moving forward. Perhaps the market is shifting and supply is catching up to demand.
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What does exporting have anything to do with dealer mark up?
Dealers are asking for ADM because demand outstrips supply, that's it. It has nothing to do with exporting or the dealer trying to stop the exporting. Come on, you guys can't be serious here? It's called capitalism 101 and simply put, it's called greed.
Dealers are asking for ADM because demand outstrips supply, that's it. It has nothing to do with exporting or the dealer trying to stop the exporting. Come on, you guys can't be serious here? It's called capitalism 101 and simply put, it's called greed.
Because of all the demand, including from exporters the price has to go up.
A car, any car, is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Regardless of what the sticker price is.
If you owned a 2019 G 63 would you sell it for less than it's worth?
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Absolutely. In my book, the new G63 is only worth MSRP and that is what I'm paying for mine. My local dealer in LA is willing to sell it to me at MSRP and I am willing to pay MSRP. Simple, supply and demand 101 
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How long are you waiting on the G63 for? Can you hook me up with your salesman for MSRP?
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I was told February 2020 delivery, order was placed last month. As for which dealer, this was the Mercedes store in Arcadia but I’m not your typical customer, so I’m 99% sure they are not a msrp store.
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A lot of great info MB fam, much appreciated. Exporting into China is a beast of its own I’m not going down that rabbit hole.
I see both sides of the spectrum for the G demand but
the mark up % is insane. If it was not an MB dealer selling I would understand but come on be reasonable.
I see both sides of the spectrum for the G demand but
the mark up % is insane. If it was not an MB dealer selling I would understand but come on be reasonable.
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I agree 100%. The G63 is not a car worthy of ADM, especially considering some people actually paid 50-60k over (which is 30% of the original msrp). It’s a mass produced car, so why would you want to pay over sticker for that? It’s like the Range Rover when it first came out, dealers were charging crazy ADM on those too.
If I’m being charged msrp on my 918 Spyder and F12 TDF, then why would I pay over sticker on a regular Mercedes 😂
If I’m being charged msrp on my 918 Spyder and F12 TDF, then why would I pay over sticker on a regular Mercedes 😂
A lot of great info MB fam, much appreciated. Exporting into China is a beast of its own I’m not going down that rabbit hole.
I see both sides of the spectrum for the G demand but
the mark up % is insane. If it was not an MB dealer selling I would understand but come on be reasonable.
I see both sides of the spectrum for the G demand but
the mark up % is insane. If it was not an MB dealer selling I would understand but come on be reasonable.
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I agree 100%. The G63 is not a car worthy of ADM, especially considering some people actually paid 50-60k over (which is 30% of the original msrp). It’s a mass produced car, so why would you want to pay over sticker for that? It’s like the Range Rover when it first came out, dealers were charging crazy ADM on those too.
If I’m being charged msrp on my 918 Spyder and F12 TDF, then why would I pay over sticker on a regular Mercedes 😂
If I’m being charged msrp on my 918 Spyder and F12 TDF, then why would I pay over sticker on a regular Mercedes 😂
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Available, arrived at VPC today. Selling at MSRP just WA state customers.
Available, arrived at VPC today. Selling at MSRP just WA state customers.
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A retired baseball player told me that sometimes its better to pay the (reasonable) ADM than to deal with the brain damage associated with buying a car that is in demand. However a G63 isn’t a 2/3RS, speedster or pista.
In the case of the G63 which isn’t limited or numbered it’s very simple. Check other dealers! I walked Into 3 different dealers two months ago. The first I have a great relationship with said yes there is no ADM but required a 2 year wait. The second said ADM tbd at delivery. The last which I have no relation with received an allocation for me within 6 weeks AT MSRP.
Just shop around. You’ll find one in due time.
You guys need to try buying a limited Porsche or special Ferrari to really learn the meaning ADM and games.
With Ferrari you have to be ‘worthy’ of a particular car (meaning they pick you).
With Porsche it’s the ADM game (unless you’re vip or have a good history with a dealer) and when that’s over its the PTS/CXX game.
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This is funny. Unotaz is on another level so I’m sure he understands very well.
A retired baseball player told me that sometimes its better to pay the (reasonable) ADM than to deal with the brain damage associated with buying a car that is in demand. However a G63 isn’t a 2/3RS, speedster or pista.
In the case of the G63 which isn’t limited or numbered it’s very simple. Check other dealers! I walked Into 3 different dealers two months ago. The first I have a great relationship with said yes there is no ADM but required a 2 year wait. The second said ADM tbd at delivery. The last which I have no relation with received an allocation for me within 6 weeks AT MSRP.
Just shop around. You’ll find one in due time.
You guys need to try buying a limited Porsche or special Ferrari to really learn the meaning ADM and games.
With Ferrari you have to be ‘worthy’ of a particular car (meaning they pick you).
With Porsche it’s the ADM game (unless you’re vip or have a good history with a dealer) and when that’s over its the PTS/CXX game.
A retired baseball player told me that sometimes its better to pay the (reasonable) ADM than to deal with the brain damage associated with buying a car that is in demand. However a G63 isn’t a 2/3RS, speedster or pista.
In the case of the G63 which isn’t limited or numbered it’s very simple. Check other dealers! I walked Into 3 different dealers two months ago. The first I have a great relationship with said yes there is no ADM but required a 2 year wait. The second said ADM tbd at delivery. The last which I have no relation with received an allocation for me within 6 weeks AT MSRP.
Just shop around. You’ll find one in due time.
You guys need to try buying a limited Porsche or special Ferrari to really learn the meaning ADM and games.
With Ferrari you have to be ‘worthy’ of a particular car (meaning they pick you).
With Porsche it’s the ADM game (unless you’re vip or have a good history with a dealer) and when that’s over its the PTS/CXX game.
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Available, arrived at VPC today. Selling at MSRP just WA state customers.
Available, arrived at VPC today. Selling at MSRP just WA state customers.
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LOL. I know the system too well. And unfortunately, it’s the regular folks who are not familiar with the system that gets fooled by the whole argument of “supply and demand” from the regular Mercedes dealers.
Just like anything in life, do your search properly and find the msrp deals. This is a mass produced car, so it’s not that hard to find one.
Just like anything in life, do your search properly and find the msrp deals. This is a mass produced car, so it’s not that hard to find one.
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This is funny. Unotaz is on another level so I’m sure he understands very well.
A retired baseball player told me that sometimes its better to pay the (reasonable) ADM than to deal with the brain damage associated with buying a car that is in demand. However a G63 isn’t a 2/3RS, speedster or pista.
In the case of the G63 which isn’t limited or numbered it’s very simple. Check other dealers! I walked Into 3 different dealers two months ago. The first I have a great relationship with said yes there is no ADM but required a 2 year wait. The second said ADM tbd at delivery. The last which I have no relation with received an allocation for me within 6 weeks AT MSRP.
Just shop around. You’ll find one in due time.
You guys need to try buying a limited Porsche or special Ferrari to really learn the meaning ADM and games.
With Ferrari you have to be ‘worthy’ of a particular car (meaning they pick you).
With Porsche it’s the ADM game (unless you’re vip or have a good history with a dealer) and when that’s over its the PTS/CXX game.
A retired baseball player told me that sometimes its better to pay the (reasonable) ADM than to deal with the brain damage associated with buying a car that is in demand. However a G63 isn’t a 2/3RS, speedster or pista.
In the case of the G63 which isn’t limited or numbered it’s very simple. Check other dealers! I walked Into 3 different dealers two months ago. The first I have a great relationship with said yes there is no ADM but required a 2 year wait. The second said ADM tbd at delivery. The last which I have no relation with received an allocation for me within 6 weeks AT MSRP.
Just shop around. You’ll find one in due time.
You guys need to try buying a limited Porsche or special Ferrari to really learn the meaning ADM and games.
With Ferrari you have to be ‘worthy’ of a particular car (meaning they pick you).
With Porsche it’s the ADM game (unless you’re vip or have a good history with a dealer) and when that’s over its the PTS/CXX game.
You take your financial advice from retired baseball players ? Enough said.
Strike 1
You assume that I have yet to procure said vehicle? For the purposes of your edification I took delivery of my (3rd) G63 in March of this year. @ MSRP. Not a cent more. So your presumptive advice is redundant.
Yawn .Let me know when you get yours.
Strike 2
The dealer you have a "great relationship " with was making you wait two years ? Think maybe you are overestimating how" great" your relationship is?
Strike 3
Supply : Constrained
Demand: Exceeds supply
Outcome: Premium
GAME.OVER.
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LOL. I know the system too well. And unfortunately, it’s the regular folks who are not familiar with the system that gets fooled by the whole argument of “supply and demand” from the regular Mercedes dealers.
Just like anything in life, do your search properly and find the msrp deals. This is a mass produced car, so it’s not that hard to find one.
Just like anything in life, do your search properly and find the msrp deals. This is a mass produced car, so it’s not that hard to find one.
Regular folk? Buying G63's ? Cool story bro...
Know the system well do you ? Unlike the rest of us here who have zero car buying experience ?
FTR my MSRP deal was found and concluded in March this year :-)
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I for one don't have a great relationship with the dealership. I'm waiting for an allocation for 6 months now and still more than 30 people ahead of me.
If someone knows of an allocation for a G63 at MSRP, please let me know.
If someone knows of an allocation for a G63 at MSRP, please let me know.
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You take your financial advice from retired baseball players ? Enough said.
Strike 1
You assume that I have yet to procure said vehicle? For the purposes of your edification I took delivery of my (3rd) G63 in March of this year. @ MSRP. Not a cent more. So your presumptive advice is redundant.
Yawn .Let me know when you get yours.
Strike 2
The dealer you have a "great relationship " with was making you wait two years ? Think maybe you are overestimating how" great" your relationship is?
Strike 3
Supply : Constrained
Demand: Exceeds supply
Outcome: Premium
GAME.OVER.
Strike 1
You assume that I have yet to procure said vehicle? For the purposes of your edification I took delivery of my (3rd) G63 in March of this year. @ MSRP. Not a cent more. So your presumptive advice is redundant.
Yawn .Let me know when you get yours.
Strike 2
The dealer you have a "great relationship " with was making you wait two years ? Think maybe you are overestimating how" great" your relationship is?
Strike 3
Supply : Constrained
Demand: Exceeds supply
Outcome: Premium
GAME.OVER.
It’s not a constrained supply or demand. It’s greed. This isn’t my first go with ADM pricing. My point is that if one would have patience and shop around there are MSRP cars out there.
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So what are you saying that is different than what I stated previously? Is the G63 worth over MSRP? I don't think so and you also paid MSRP for it. So what's your point?
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Exactly. Especially on a mass-produced non-limited vehicle like the G63. It's not hard to find MSRP deals.
I made no assumptions your ability to obtain spaceship powered box on wheels, just that you question at intellect of people who’s net worth is exponentially more than yours and mine. You have no idea of the level they function at.
It’s not a constrained supply or demand. It’s greed. This isn’t my first go with ADM pricing. My point is that if one would have patience and shop around there are MSRP cars out there.
It’s not a constrained supply or demand. It’s greed. This isn’t my first go with ADM pricing. My point is that if one would have patience and shop around there are MSRP cars out there.
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"low supply and high demand increase price and vice versa"
MBZ has not stopped/limited production and order banks are still open. I see this as more of a marketing strategy by MBZ and dealers trying to cash in
Housing markets in tier 1 cities (LA,SF,NYC, HK, SG,) = true supply and demand
MBZ has not stopped/limited production and order banks are still open. I see this as more of a marketing strategy by MBZ and dealers trying to cash in
Housing markets in tier 1 cities (LA,SF,NYC, HK, SG,) = true supply and demand
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So for anyone out there that just needs to have one of these wagons no matter what the cost....
I've been waiting almost two and a half months for a replacement windshield. It was ordered on August 13th.
How do you think I feel on a vehicle I paid $20k over sticker for.
MBUSA can suck it.
I've been waiting almost two and a half months for a replacement windshield. It was ordered on August 13th.
How do you think I feel on a vehicle I paid $20k over sticker for.
MBUSA can suck it.
