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Old Jun 3, 2020 | 09:52 AM
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Ceramic pro coating or Xpel stealth PPF for matte paint G63?

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I ordered a 2020 G63 last year, and the dealer told me this week said the order is in production now and should be delivered in August. I ordered the designo platinum magno (matte) paint and I 'd like to do some paint protection right after the delivery.
I did some online research, but anyone did the Ceramic Pro Coating or Xpel Stealth PPF for the matte paint on G-class? Which one is the best option?
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Old Jun 3, 2020 | 09:55 AM
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Hi HK. i am following this thread also.. just picked up my platinum magno yesterday. Located in South Florida.
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Old Jun 3, 2020 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by HK Zhang
Hello
I ordered a 2020 G63 last year, and the dealer told me this week said the order is in production now and should be delivered in August. I ordered the designo platinum magno (matte) paint and I 'd like to do some paint protection right after the delivery.
I did some online research, but anyone did the Ceramic Pro Coating or Xpel Stealth PPF for the matte paint on G-class? Which one is the best option?
Thank you.
Ceramic coating and PPF are 2 different things with different purposes. PPF is a clear film to protect the paint from stone chips, etc. and ceramic coating would go over it, or on paint, as an alternative to wax. XPel Steath film is what one wants to use on Matte paint and Suntek, which I have on my Porsche, also makes a film for Matte paint. At the very least I would do PPF on the front surfaces where stones, etc. can cause damage when driving and I plan to do that to mine when it arrives. I also plan to have all the painted surfaces ceramic coated and based on experience I plan to use OptiCoat Pro. As the saying goes, "shop the installer, not the product" - do your research and use the best installer you can find in your area!
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Old Jun 3, 2020 | 11:48 AM
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Old Jun 3, 2020 | 01:25 PM
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With matte paint you want no gloss but definitely need to protect it well. PPF is the clear solution for you.

I have ceramic coating which looks amazing over my obsidian black 2020 G63 but that's a different animal.
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Old Jun 3, 2020 | 01:34 PM
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Hi HK. i am following this thread also.. just picked up my platinum magno yesterday. Located in South Florida.
Wow, I am located in Miami. Enjoy your monster and let me know if you did some paint protection later.
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Old Jun 3, 2020 | 01:36 PM
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Hi HK. i am following this thread also.. just picked up my platinum magno yesterday. Located in South Florida.
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Ceramic coating and PPF are 2 different things with different purposes. PPF is a clear film to protect the paint from stone chips, etc. and ceramic coating would go over it, or on paint, as an alternative to wax. XPel Steath film is what one wants to use on Matte paint and Suntek, which I have on my Porsche, also makes a film for Matte paint. At the very least I would do PPF on the front surfaces where stones, etc. can cause damage when driving and I plan to do that to mine when it arrives. I also plan to have all the painted surfaces ceramic coated and based on experience I plan to use OptiCoat Pro. As the saying goes, "shop the installer, not the product" - do your research and use the best installer you can find in your area!
I like the "shop the installer, not the product". I am trying to get some quotes from several installers in my area.
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Old Jun 3, 2020 | 02:44 PM
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PPF first, then Ceramic coat. If you can only budget one, then definitely go PPF.

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PPF first, then Ceramic coat. If you can only budget one, then definitely go PPF.
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Old Jun 6, 2020 | 12:17 PM
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Im about the do full front Xpel with Fusion pro ceramic coating on all paint in the next week or soo.
They quoted me in CAD$ about 1400$ for front Xpel and 1000$ for Fusion pro.
Seems Fusion does not work long on our plastic trim, rubber trims, wheel, calipers, windows. Wish it did.
I dont have the matte paint. Normal black.
With matte. I would fully wrap it. I think its about 6k on G-wagons.
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Old Jun 6, 2020 | 01:10 PM
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I did XPEL stealth on the entire G63 (except normal XPEL on the gloss black elements for the night package). The G was already Magno Night Black. Didn't want to shell out extra $$$ for ceramic pro, so just did an application of Gyeon Matte Coating by myself. Took maybe a few hours, but if you like detailing, it's a really easy thing to do. The matte coating definitely added depth to the XPEL coating and made it a deeper black. With Xpel stealth on matte black, the car became even more matte than the factory paint. The ceramic coating I added made the Xpel Stealth look closer to the factory finish. It also makes washing the G so much easier than if it had XPEL alone! Sometimes I'll just take a lightly misted ONR towel and dust off the car. Love having the peace of mind that it won't damage the original paintwork and allows me to have a pretty clean car most of the time!
didn't do ceramic on the wheels exhaust or running boards, but those can easily be taken care of with a spray sealant every now and then.

Also to those considering if they should have their installer do pre-cut film, I would highly recommend it rather than disassembling the car. The factory fit and finish will be hard to replicate once the car is taken apart and if the installer goes freestyle, there will definitely be scratch marks from the knife in your paint. No one can avoid scratches 100% of the time with that method. Much safer to use pre-cut film and the edges really aren't visible.

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Scheduled for XPEL Stealth on the front end starting Tuesday and then ceramic OptiCoat Pro after that. Did you guys have the entire wheels also done with OptiCoat or just the wheel exterior? I thought it may be easier to clean the wheels if they were entirely coated?




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I have designo platinum magnum matte finish with black gloss AMG wheels. I opted to ceramic coat both the paint and the wheels and makes washing so simple. for the small added cost, my recommendation would be to also do the wheels.
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Scheduled for XPEL Stealth on the front end starting Tuesday and then ceramic OptiCoat Pro after that. Did you guys have the entire wheels also done with OptiCoat or just the wheel exterior? I thought it may be easier to clean the wheels if they were entirely coated?

I assume you are asking about the wheel barrels. I had them done on my Porsche and it did not help so I did not get them done on the G, just the outside areas.
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Old Jan 3, 2021 | 12:28 AM
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Try switching over to Akebono brake pads if available for your car or truck.
I replaced the OEM pads on my E class with this brand and was extremely happy 😁. Brake dust was very minimal and I was very impressed.
No need for ceramic coating the wheels if using these pads.
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Try switching over to Akebono brake pads if available for your car or truck.
I replaced the OEM pads on my E class with this brand and was extremely happy 😁. Brake dust was very minimal and I was very impressed.
No need for ceramic coating the wheels if using these pads.
Not available for the G Class.
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Old Jan 3, 2021 | 02:33 PM
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Yes, you are correct. I did a quick search and was not able to locate any vendor selling it.
That is a real bummer because it is a really good product due to lack of brake dust it does not produce.
I would definitely put them on any car that I have due to personal experience.

ECS Tuning appears to offer the most choices for some available vehicles.

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Yes, you are correct. I did a quick search and was not able to locate any vendor selling it.
That is a real bummer because it is a really good product due to lack of brake dust it does not produce.
I would definitely put them on any car that I have due to personal experience.

ECS Tuning appears to offer the most choices for some available vehicles.
Many Porsche owners with non-ceramic brakes use the ones from Centric, which shows they have them for the G but they are not yet available: https://centricparts.com/automotive-...edes-benz/g550

If enough people ask about them though they may have an incentive to make them!
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Old Jan 3, 2021 | 08:46 PM
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How much are we looking at to do a full body PPF using precut diecuts? Does anyone have a recommendation in so cal?
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Protective Film Solutions get high marks from a lot of people on ferrarichat. They do PPF, ceramic coating, dash cam installs, etc. They aren't cheap, but I had a bad experience with ceramic coating using a shop in Utah. I assumed that ceramic coating was easy and nobody could screw it up. Wrong. Next time I'll go to Protective Film Solutions. I think they have multiple locations (Orange County, and Scottsdale AZ).

http://protectivefilmsolutions.com

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Old Jan 5, 2021 | 06:34 PM
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I was told you shouldn't ppl the roof because it is thin and can dent when they apply the film and squeegee it and instead to go heavy on ceramic coating on the roof. Anybody been told this?
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I have a magno G63 and I got PPF Xpel Steath wrapped on the front elements of the G and portions of the back. After the ppf then came the ceramic coating. I also had exoshield installed on the windshield to TRY and prevent any cracks/chips. So far so good.



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I was told you shouldn't ppl the roof because it is thin and can dent when they apply the film and squeegee it and instead to go heavy on ceramic coating on the roof. Anybody been told this?
Someone told you they can dent a G wagon using a squeegee? Are they using diamond tipped squeegees?

Whoever told you that probably doesn’t know much about PPF or ceramic coating.
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Old Jan 9, 2021 | 10:28 PM
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Someone told you they can dent a G wagon using a squeegee? Are they using diamond tipped squeegees?

Whoever told you that probably doesn’t know much about PPF or ceramic coating.
Yea. The shop I called was the one recommendwc a couple post earlier, they said that the roof of the G isnt strong and can get dented since they have to squeeze out the water when doing ppf.
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I'm bringing my Dark Olive Magno truck into a local installer on Friday to have a full XPel Stealth PPF.
Any other areas of concern I should look out for other than a possible "thin roof"?
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