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I actually don't understand why MBUSA is holding up the MY21 Gs at VPC. Releasing MY21 early won't affect the sale of the MY20 (especially given the demand, plus there is almost no difference between these two MY), but keeping them at VPC will just increase the risk of damage. The only justification I can think of is that releasing late will make late owners of MY20 happy. Just some thoughts
Knowing 2020... I’m just waiting for a hurricane to come sweeping through the east coast and damage/destroy the vehicles. It would just be fitting with this whole ordering process and 2020 in general. Ugggg... get your sh*t together MB.
Interesting. It does not look like they raised the price at all from 156450 on the 2020. It was supposed to be 156650 for the '21
Same thing happened with my dealer yesterday regarding prices showing up on my order. However, something doesn’t seem right with the prices being exactly the same.
You guy's are kindof funny... but I understand you're excited about your G's so it's understandable to be going over the same-chatter-again-and-again.
1. As I have told this forum since end-June - Graz has been spot-on-the-money on fulfilling their Build-Dates - not only for the final-2020's - but also spot-on for the start-up of 2021's.
2. Transport from Austria-Germany and especially Germany-to-US has been taking a bit longer than last year. Last year there were two trains - Saturday and Sunday - from Austria up to Port - and this year there is one late Saturday night train to Port. With so fewer Car Carrier's now from Germany to US - the wait at German Port is longer.
3. Yes - Mercedes release cannot come until after Federal Approval - and the way the cards line up this year at end-Sept there was a 25% chance (1-in-4) end-October might be possible - with a 75% chance (3-of-4) that it will be end-November, And Yes - there is always a chance that actual release might be different from that.
4. I have absolutely no comprehension why a competent MB Sales Advisor or Sales Manager would choose NOT to tell you what to expect for 2021 G-Pricing - frankly all Dealer's have had that Preliminary 2021 MSRP's from MBUSA since 1st week August - with the only "loophole" that "Mercedes Reserves the Right To Change Specifications or Pricing Without Prior Notice" which is the MB Loophole on EVERY Mercedes model that gets built - and that loophole is clearly printed on each NetStar Spec Sheet for every Mercedes that gets built.
But again - and rightfully so - you guys deserve to be excited - that right is well earned - and I guess it helps "chatting about it" - it's just outright strange that it seems so many G-Customer's suffer from the same lack-of-professional-support from such a wide range of Dealer's - the guy's you have had to deal with are downright Stupid - or Lazy - or are being Slickster's in putting you on edge so they can sell your G to another customer for more money !
I have more "investment" in G-Wagon's before December Year-End than any single new owner because I have more lined-up from Austria-To-My-Customer's - like 7 for my clinets.
Frankly G's so far have been right on Target - and my other business - my other AMG business - my Maybach GLS's - down to entry model sedans or entry model SUV's is Much-Much-More of a headache that the G's.
In the Full-Line-Luxury-Car-Business - and if you look at the Mercedes line-up - there is a much broader model selection than ever before - it's the # of units in both New and Certified Pre-Owned - more important than the MSRP of a particular high end model- that will determine how my business - and how my crew's business - will end for this year - and if your Dealer ends happy - a Happy Dealer is all the better for you !
Be excited - but rest a bit easier OK - and if the G-Market stays as strong as it is now - if you're not over paying for your 2021 - PLAN now to be ordering a 2023 - 2yr old G's are depreciating in dollars on MSRP about the same - or a hair less -
Some/most of it is definitely speculation but I know I am eager and excited to get my G and the speculation is fun. Plus, those "in the know" will likely give us the most accurate info here.
You guy's are kindof funny... but I understand you're excited about your G's so it's understandable to be going over the same-chatter-again-and-again.
4. I have absolutely no comprehension why a competent MB Sales Advisor or Sales Manager would choose NOT to tell you what to expect for 2021 G-Pricing - frankly all Dealer's have had that Preliminary 2021 MSRP's from MBUSA since 1st week August - with the only "loophole" that "Mercedes Reserves the Right To Change Specifications or Pricing Without Prior Notice" which is the MB Loophole on EVERY Mercedes model that gets built - and that loophole is clearly printed on each NetStar Spec Sheet for every Mercedes that gets built.
But again - and rightfully so - you guys deserve to be excited - that right is well earned - and I guess it helps "chatting about it" - it's just outright strange that it seems so many G-Customer's suffer from the same lack-of-professional-support from such a wide range of Dealer's - the guy's you have had to deal with are downright Stupid - or Lazy - or are being Slickster's in putting you on edge so they can sell your G to another customer for more money !
I have more "investment" in G-Wagon's before December Year-End than any single new owner because I have more lined-up from Austria-To-My-Customer's - like 7 for my clinets.
Frankly G's so far have been right on Target - and my other business - my other AMG business - my Maybach GLS's - down to entry model sedans or entry model SUV's is Much-Much-More of a headache that the G's.
In the Full-Line-Luxury-Car-Business - and if you look at the Mercedes line-up - there is a much broader model selection than ever before - it's the # of units in both New and Certified Pre-Owned - more important than the MSRP of a particular high end model- that will determine how my business - and how my crew's business - will end for this year - and if your Dealer ends happy - a Happy Dealer is all the better for you !
Be excited - but rest a bit easier OK - and if the G-Market stays as strong as it is now - if you're not over paying for your 2021 - PLAN now to be ordering a 2023 - 2yr old G's are depreciating in dollars on MSRP about the same - or a hair less -
Keep the beat !
Good info, thanks. Yes, we are excited, it has been a long wait for many of us....and we always grasp at straws hoping that our order may defy the norm and arrive earlier than expected.
In regards to point number 4 above. My dealer said they had preliminary pricing, but didn’t have the final numbers yet from Mercedes. I can understand a dealer not wanting to give a wrong number.
I have heard that Mercedes has not been building vehicles with the “night package plus” option due to some issues with painting the roofs (I may not have the details correct on that) but I can understand why dealers aren’t giving pricing as items like the issue above may occur, may get resolved, etc...
I work in personal finance and have quoted clients/prospect an incorrect charge/commission. In cases were I told them a few would be lower than it ended up being, I eat difference. I don’t want the client to think that I tried to bait n switch them or give them any indication I was trying to do something dishonest.
I realize if the pricing came out 1k higher than expected on 150k vehicle, that is a small increase percentage wise, but still $1,000 higher than the dealer had quoted.
Just my 2 cents, obviously dealers could make it very clear that the price may change or give price range, but I think some are just cautious.
Don’t get me wrong, I want to know the price, but I understand their hesitation.
You guy's are kindof funny... but I understand you're excited about your G's so it's understandable to be going over the same-chatter-again-and-again.
1. As I have told this forum since end-June - Graz has been spot-on-the-money on fulfilling their Build-Dates - not only for the final-2020's - but also spot-on for the start-up of 2021's.
2. Transport from Austria-Germany and especially Germany-to-US has been taking a bit longer than last year. Last year there were two trains - Saturday and Sunday - from Austria up to Port - and this year there is one late Saturday night train to Port. With so fewer Car Carrier's now from Germany to US - the wait at German Port is longer.
3. Yes - Mercedes release cannot come until after Federal Approval - and the way the cards line up this year at end-Sept there was a 25% chance (1-in-4) end-October might be possible - with a 75% chance (3-of-4) that it will be end-November, And Yes - there is always a chance that actual release might be different from that.
4. I have absolutely no comprehension why a competent MB Sales Advisor or Sales Manager would choose NOT to tell you what to expect for 2021 G-Pricing - frankly all Dealer's have had that Preliminary 2021 MSRP's from MBUSA since 1st week August - with the only "loophole" that "Mercedes Reserves the Right To Change Specifications or Pricing Without Prior Notice" which is the MB Loophole on EVERY Mercedes model that gets built - and that loophole is clearly printed on each NetStar Spec Sheet for every Mercedes that gets built.
But again - and rightfully so - you guys deserve to be excited - that right is well earned - and I guess it helps "chatting about it" - it's just outright strange that it seems so many G-Customer's suffer from the same lack-of-professional-support from such a wide range of Dealer's - the guy's you have had to deal with are downright Stupid - or Lazy - or are being Slickster's in putting you on edge so they can sell your G to another customer for more money !
I have more "investment" in G-Wagon's before December Year-End than any single new owner because I have more lined-up from Austria-To-My-Customer's - like 7 for my clinets.
Frankly G's so far have been right on Target - and my other business - my other AMG business - my Maybach GLS's - down to entry model sedans or entry model SUV's is Much-Much-More of a headache that the G's.
In the Full-Line-Luxury-Car-Business - and if you look at the Mercedes line-up - there is a much broader model selection than ever before - it's the # of units in both New and Certified Pre-Owned - more important than the MSRP of a particular high end model- that will determine how my business - and how my crew's business - will end for this year - and if your Dealer ends happy - a Happy Dealer is all the better for you !
Be excited - but rest a bit easier OK - and if the G-Market stays as strong as it is now - if you're not over paying for your 2021 - PLAN now to be ordering a 2023 - 2yr old G's are depreciating in dollars on MSRP about the same - or a hair less -
Keep the beat !
on your last point
that Is exactly what I do
i ordered my 21 with the exact same configuration as my 20
trading my 20 in with 10k miles for Msrp and buying a 21 for msrp
i already have my name in for a 22
I also buy them close to 165....so few options
only option I must have is trail package, makes the truck ride much nicer
You guy's are kindof funny... but I understand you're excited about your G's so it's understandable to be going over the same-chatter-again-and-again.
1. As I have told this forum since end-June - Graz has been spot-on-the-money on fulfilling their Build-Dates - not only for the final-2020's - but also spot-on for the start-up of 2021's.
2. Transport from Austria-Germany and especially Germany-to-US has been taking a bit longer than last year. Last year there were two trains - Saturday and Sunday - from Austria up to Port - and this year there is one late Saturday night train to Port. With so fewer Car Carrier's now from Germany to US - the wait at German Port is longer.
3. Yes - Mercedes release cannot come until after Federal Approval - and the way the cards line up this year at end-Sept there was a 25% chance (1-in-4) end-October might be possible - with a 75% chance (3-of-4) that it will be end-November, And Yes - there is always a chance that actual release might be different from that.
4. I have absolutely no comprehension why a competent MB Sales Advisor or Sales Manager would choose NOT to tell you what to expect for 2021 G-Pricing - frankly all Dealer's have had that Preliminary 2021 MSRP's from MBUSA since 1st week August - with the only "loophole" that "Mercedes Reserves the Right To Change Specifications or Pricing Without Prior Notice" which is the MB Loophole on EVERY Mercedes model that gets built - and that loophole is clearly printed on each NetStar Spec Sheet for every Mercedes that gets built.
But again - and rightfully so - you guys deserve to be excited - that right is well earned - and I guess it helps "chatting about it" - it's just outright strange that it seems so many G-Customer's suffer from the same lack-of-professional-support from such a wide range of Dealer's - the guy's you have had to deal with are downright Stupid - or Lazy - or are being Slickster's in putting you on edge so they can sell your G to another customer for more money !
I have more "investment" in G-Wagon's before December Year-End than any single new owner because I have more lined-up from Austria-To-My-Customer's - like 7 for my clinets.
Frankly G's so far have been right on Target - and my other business - my other AMG business - my Maybach GLS's - down to entry model sedans or entry model SUV's is Much-Much-More of a headache that the G's.
In the Full-Line-Luxury-Car-Business - and if you look at the Mercedes line-up - there is a much broader model selection than ever before - it's the # of units in both New and Certified Pre-Owned - more important than the MSRP of a particular high end model- that will determine how my business - and how my crew's business - will end for this year - and if your Dealer ends happy - a Happy Dealer is all the better for you !
Be excited - but rest a bit easier OK - and if the G-Market stays as strong as it is now - if you're not over paying for your 2021 - PLAN now to be ordering a 2023 - 2yr old G's are depreciating in dollars on MSRP about the same - or a hair less -
Keep the beat !
knowledge dropped! Love it. Quick question, what do you mean by “if the G-Market stays as strong as it is now - if you're not over paying for your 2021 - PLAN now to be ordering a 2023 - 2yr old G's are depreciating in dollars on MSRP about the same - or a hair less -“?
The wait begins. Mine was built yesterday 10/19/20. Dealer told me today it may well be the end of November before delivery. Depends on EPA. Just hoping it isn't into December.
10-16-2020, 07:49 PM
