MB suspending sales of 2022 AMG V8 models
#126
to me, the rest of the country cant really tell the difference between a 550 and G63… they look the same and imho, for the average person, they both represent the same status symbol.
and price difference isnt that much either. my draw was the power and engine and speed. i think also why it outsells the 550 is residual values. No sure its as simple as the AMG badge and status is why it sells…
and if they are making an electric version in 2024, will the gas version even come out for ‘23 or complete hiatus? or do we think gas version will be produced inline with electric with an eventual exit out of gas by the end of the decade? or else this would seem as a very hard/harsh transition and it could spook buyers!
and price difference isnt that much either. my draw was the power and engine and speed. i think also why it outsells the 550 is residual values. No sure its as simple as the AMG badge and status is why it sells…
and if they are making an electric version in 2024, will the gas version even come out for ‘23 or complete hiatus? or do we think gas version will be produced inline with electric with an eventual exit out of gas by the end of the decade? or else this would seem as a very hard/harsh transition and it could spook buyers!
Its a very strong formula for MBUSA.
#127
I bet LA/OC is MBUSA's largest US market for the G63. Here in LA I see 5 or 6 G63s for every 550 I see. People are buying it because its the "top of the line" g wagon. If the new "top of the line" is a hybrid nobody will care. They won't put a powerplant in it that is obviously inferior from a speed/power perspective so basically no matter what it will sell like crazy around here. Think about it... the 550 has plenty of power/speed for an SUV and here we are all much more interested in the 63. Lets be honest... it looks cooler, sounds better, is a bit faster. None of us are buying a 63 because we need the extra power. As others have mentioned the price differential isn't extreme so once you are paying 550 money, if you can afford it, why not get the "top of the line".
Its a very strong formula for MBUSA.
Its a very strong formula for MBUSA.
#128
#129
Most people see a G and know it’s a G. Doubt anyone is going to look down on it because it’s a G550 not a G63. And if they do, I’m too old to care now lol
#130
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Current: 2020 G63, 2013 G550, Bentley Continental GT Speed
I remember back when the 2019 g wagen was shown and everyone here on mbworld thought that it was the worst thing to have ever happened to g wagens. And no one was going to buy the new “fake” g wagen. And they got rid of the wonderful 5.5 V8 with a smaller, likely more problematic 4.0 V8. And everyone with the pre 2019 g wagens will have the last laugh with their real off roaders with actual character when everyone goes and dumps their new ones after just mere weeks due to how terrible they are.
And we all see how that actually played out.
And we all see how that actually played out.
#131
I remember back when the 2019 g wagen was shown and everyone here on mbworld thought that it was the worst thing to have ever happened to g wagens. And no one was going to buy the new “fake” g wagen. And they got rid of the wonderful 5.5 V8 with a smaller, likely more problematic 4.0 V8. And everyone with the pre 2019 g wagens will have the last laugh with their real off roaders with actual character when everyone goes and dumps their new ones after just mere weeks due to how terrible they are.
And we all see how that actually played out.
And we all see how that actually played out.
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#132
My thoughts. The G is heavy, REALLY HEAVY. An all electric G will have lower empg than a G63 or even the old G65. Battery’s are heavy and their efficiency isn’t where they need to be. The last thing the G needs is more weight.
For those that have a G63… isn’t it about the experience? It’s the noise, and the roughness. I get it, the Fomo and latest and greatest will help the hybrid sell, but I suspect the wealthy enthusiast crowd won’t bite. There are many rennlisters here and nearly all didn’t bite on the Taycan. The Taycan and Tesla have their own “type” of owners. Maybe I’m wrong but I’d venture to say that it the E version will sell well on Hype but will eventually dip.
If they kill the 63 I hope bring the 350d so I can buy one and park it next to the newly minted antique.
That all said, and prices where they are, it’s crossed my mind sell my G and buy my dream unicorn CGT.
For those that have a G63… isn’t it about the experience? It’s the noise, and the roughness. I get it, the Fomo and latest and greatest will help the hybrid sell, but I suspect the wealthy enthusiast crowd won’t bite. There are many rennlisters here and nearly all didn’t bite on the Taycan. The Taycan and Tesla have their own “type” of owners. Maybe I’m wrong but I’d venture to say that it the E version will sell well on Hype but will eventually dip.
If they kill the 63 I hope bring the 350d so I can buy one and park it next to the newly minted antique.
That all said, and prices where they are, it’s crossed my mind sell my G and buy my dream unicorn CGT.
#133
From the Wall Street Journal - August 21, 2021
Last edited by streborx; 08-21-2021 at 07:26 AM.
#134
#135
While the base MSRP difference is only $25-$30K, the ADMs bring this difference up substantially to ~$75K. I consider the ADM integral to the price, so we're talking $150K versus $225K (typically). I considered both, but I didn't see $75K of additional stuff in the G63, so I bought the G550.
#136
My thoughts. The G is heavy, REALLY HEAVY. An all electric G will have lower empg than a G63 or even the old G65. Battery’s are heavy and their efficiency isn’t where they need to be. The last thing the G needs is more weight.
For those that have a G63… isn’t it about the experience? It’s the noise, and the roughness. I get it, the Fomo and latest and greatest will help the hybrid sell, but I suspect the wealthy enthusiast crowd won’t bite. There are many rennlisters here and nearly all didn’t bite on the Taycan. The Taycan and Tesla have their own “type” of owners. Maybe I’m wrong but I’d venture to say that it the E version will sell well on Hype but will eventually dip.
If they kill the 63 I hope bring the 350d so I can buy one and park it next to the newly minted antique.
That all said, and prices where they are, it’s crossed my mind sell my G and buy my dream unicorn CGT.
For those that have a G63… isn’t it about the experience? It’s the noise, and the roughness. I get it, the Fomo and latest and greatest will help the hybrid sell, but I suspect the wealthy enthusiast crowd won’t bite. There are many rennlisters here and nearly all didn’t bite on the Taycan. The Taycan and Tesla have their own “type” of owners. Maybe I’m wrong but I’d venture to say that it the E version will sell well on Hype but will eventually dip.
If they kill the 63 I hope bring the 350d so I can buy one and park it next to the newly minted antique.
That all said, and prices where they are, it’s crossed my mind sell my G and buy my dream unicorn CGT.
Last edited by 3.Pointed.Czar; 08-21-2021 at 10:55 AM.
#137
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Joined: Apr 2020
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From: North Dakota
2021 G550, BMW X5M, 2020 Toyota Supra LE
Dang, I have been swamped for the last 6 weeks or so, and haven’t been monitoring this forum like I typically do….
Dealer told a few weeks back that my G63 order was pulled and they were not taking orders for 2022.
I figured I would confirm/debunk what I was told on here….to my dismay, this thread confirmed my greatest fear. (Ok, not my greatest fear, but it still sucks)
Dealer told a few weeks back that my G63 order was pulled and they were not taking orders for 2022.
I figured I would confirm/debunk what I was told on here….to my dismay, this thread confirmed my greatest fear. (Ok, not my greatest fear, but it still sucks)
#138
The suspension seems global
MB was promoting the G on Instagram, may be the promoting department didn't hear the news, people from UK and far east commented that they can't get their order.
The G and S are the most famous MB. No wonder that people are frustrated
The G and S are the most famous MB. No wonder that people are frustrated
#139
They don't have. Canada receive 80 G Wagon per year,. Big dealer get 2, small dealer get 1. There's a 3-5 years waiting list. They are not allowed to sell to people outside their region. You must buy from closest dealer.
#140
News from someone within MB… G production will continue until December and may continue into January and February. There will be a short pause in production and then they’ll be back in the spring/early summer with the same V8s as before.
The G is a cash cow for Benz but supplier issues are getting worse.
The G is a cash cow for Benz but supplier issues are getting worse.
Last edited by n3rd; 08-21-2021 at 03:40 PM.
#141
News from someone within MB… G production will continue until December and may continue into January and February. There will be a short pause in production and then they’ll be back in the spring/early summer with the same V8s as before.
The G is a cash cow for Benz but supplier issues are getting worse.
The G is a cash cow for Benz but supplier issues are getting worse.
#142
It isn’t a rumor.
#143
News from someone within MB… G production will continue until December and may continue into January and February. There will be a short pause in production and then they’ll be back in the spring/early summer with the same V8s as before.
The G is a cash cow for Benz but supplier issues are getting worse.
The G is a cash cow for Benz but supplier issues are getting worse.
I *want* to believe this. But with all the talk about Euro Emissions and such, I'm feeling like MBAG is just going to use this pause as a way to transition away from the V8 across their lineup.
So, while the G will be back, and maybe even sooner than the end of 2022, it won't be back in the same form.
And this breaks my heart.
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#144
Hope so
News from someone within MB… G production will continue until December and may continue into January and February. There will be a short pause in production and then they’ll be back in the spring/early summer with the same V8s as before.
The G is a cash cow for Benz but supplier issues are getting worse.
The G is a cash cow for Benz but supplier issues are getting worse.
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