I know both cars have great offroad potential and want to know who the G500/G55 compare to the Hummer H1 (not the new GM H2 version) in offroading?

 

i don't think anything stock off the factory floor will touch H1's ability on offroading.

 

my cousin owns a g55 amg, hes on this board as well, he says the g55 amg isn't as good as the H1 but the next g class will come close or beat it.

 

I dunno why, lol maybe b/c I'm British, but I thought the best SUV at off-roading was always the Range Rover??? could be the hummer now tho

 

maybe this will clear things up. The Range Rover was the best off roading vehicle until the Hummer start to sell the H1 to civilians.

 

The H1 is one tough vehicle, but it is not always the best. It doesn't have completely locking differentials, so there are situations where it will not be able to make progress and the G-wagen can. This was one of the reasons that the US Marines are using diesel G-wagens as their fast attack vehicles in Afghanistan and Iraq. Secondly, the H1 is very wide and very heavy. In many off-road situations both of these will be a big disadvantage. For example, there are many off-road trails that are just too narrow for an H1 and sometimes for the H2 as well.

Lastly, to go off-road you genearlly have to drive some ways out of urban areas. Would you rather cruise comfortably at 90 mph in a G-wagen listening to tunes on your harmon/kardon sound system or shake/rattle/roll in a big/slow diesel H1?

In some situations, I would rather have the H1, and in most I'd be quite happy with the G-wagen.

Take a look at this page for more info:

http://www.4x4abc.com/G/hummer.html

 

You mentioned H2 in your previous post. In your opinion does that even rank among off road S.U.V.'s?

 

Some people might not think so, but I think the H2 is not bad off-road. It certainly doesn't compare to the H1, but it does better than more other GM SUVs. Here's a pic of me off-roading with a co-worker in his brand new H2:

 

I gotcha. Can it keep it's own with the G also? I was always under the impress that it was a soccer-mom's SUV (and sure does seem like it with the amount of them.)

 

Not entirely true, the 2003 H1 model year introduced a rear electromagnetic locking rear differential which can be changed to fully locked, unlocked, limited slip, etc. with the simple flick of a switch and the 2004 model year will introduce the same Eaton e-locker differential system in the front. Keep in mind, most military Humvee's in use today were produced within one to two years after the end of Desert Storm and are expected to be used for 15 years, after that time they will be replaced. All of the Humvee's used by the special forces and whatnot have been outfitted with the quieter, more powerful, and more efficient Duramax diesel which produced 300hp and 520 ft-lb. torque. The reason that all military Humvee's have not received this new engine is due to logistics in field maintenance aswell as the outrageous cost of a conversion. AMG (Not talking about the AMG we all know and love ) just renewed their contract with government for the next 25 years and the president of AMG is expected to make a huge announcement at the next SEMA show.

I would rather shake/rattle/roll in a big/slow diesel H1 thank you very much . The feeling you get when driving an H1 can not be achieved driving any other vehicle on the planet, I read a magazine article a while back about a long term test on an H1, and the author of the vehicle stated "everytime you climb into the drivers seat of the H1 and turn the key, you feel like you are about to embark on a top secret clandestine military mission." I test drove an H1 a few weeks ago, and the H1 truly is "Like Nothing Else!" I enjoyed the H1 so much that I plan to purchase one very soon, you simply cannot even begin to compare the driving experience to that of a G-Class or a Range Rover.

The G-Class and Land Rover's beat around the bush while the H1 goes straight through it .

 

I drove my old 1991 300GE through a couple of bushes. In fact, there are US Marines in Afghanistan and Iraq driving around in G-Wagens...and that's more than through bushes.

The claim to fame for the G-wagen is that it offers off-road performance and reliability in the same class as the H1 while still being useable as a daily driver for most in luxury. In terms of build quality, it's very similar to the H1 and is the last Mercedes vehicle that is fully hand assembled with hundreds of manual spot welds holding it together. It is even painted by hand.

The H1 is probably the toughest road legal vehicle you can buy, but that feeling you describe is possible in a G-wagen as well. The Range Rover is a different story and should not be grouped together with the H1 and G-Wagen.

 

IMHO still the King, but extremely expensive to maintain

Just the Kevlar reinforced Pirelli Scorpions will cost you a small Fiat, and your local mechanic will probably go bananas trying to change the clutch.

Serious commitment, just for the very few prepared to spend as much on their 4x4 as on a speedboat.

A G63 is harmless in comparison


cheers



Photos attached are from a Swiss dealer in Geneva

 

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pic 3 late spec Diablo V12 engine with fuel injection

 

IMO the H2 is not the best off-roader the G500 is a great off-roader stock the G55 is more sport with the side exaust and the rims and tires its a little to nice for off-road its capable still. The lambo is amazing if only they still made it they are awsome off-road and have great performance the H1 is good off-road but there is still better modded cars that can do it. The 99+ Jeep grand Cherokee Aka WJ is great once modded off-road The range rover is also a great car in closest comparision to the jeep.


How much are the lambo's currently going for. ?

 

The lambo was my dream car when i was growing up and the Hummer H1 is a direct decendent of the failed effort by GM and Lamborghini to market the LM002 to the US Marines.

I think examples in a good condition are going for around $40k-$50k.

 

aah...I almost forgot about the ugly Lambo LM002. The worst attempt by a exotic sports car company to go into SUV territory. The second goes to Maseratii trying to revive the Quattro sedan. Third goes to Cayenne from Porsche, although the Cayenne Turbo looks pretty cool. Why wouldn't these company stick to what they do the best. Do they really need to share the market already occupied by established brands?