MB vs BMW diesels
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BMW makes two versions of their 3.0 liter diesel. One with a single turbo and one that has twin turbo. they have different hp and torque ratings. Mercedes is a singe variable turbo. the Bmw Twin turbo uses two different size turbos giving it a higher HP.
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That's what everyone wishes, but only 3 and X5 are announced.
http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...cedDiesel.aspx
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USA will get the 335d and 535d. I have driven quite a few of the BMW twin turbo diesels and they really do put the MBZ's single variable turbo to shame. They even put my E320 to shame in sheer power output.
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Sorry, no 535D. You've confused this with the X5 SUV. Read the link.
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I love BMW products and have owned more of them than any other marque. However BMW has nothing that compares to our GL. The X5 compares most closely to the ML. The sheer heft of the GL, with a truly usable third row seat, trumps the X5, no matter that the BMW has a better diesel.
I just wish the X5 were larger or that BMW would sell diesels to MB for its GLs.
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I can't see MB giving up its leadership diesel position in the U.S. luxury segment to BMW without a fight. My guess is that MB will come with more powerful diesel engines in a couple of years.
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Mercedes has developed a new generation of 4 cylinder diesel engines with the top of the range being as powerful as the current 3.0 cdi in the Gl. If MB applies this technology to the 6 cylinder diesels they are producing,they should have a screamer and catch up with BMW,
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Well it's a real shame that the 420 CDI isn't sold here as it is a fantastic diesel. Might even get better fuel mileage than the 320 CDI, in real world driving, as the engine has to work less hard to move the bulk of the GL.
Read the other day that the 2010 model of the CLS will be available with a 350CDI with 315 bhp plus lots of torque. Surely this engine will find its way into the GL. It paired to a hybrid drivetrain would certainly move the GL quite nicely.
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Read the other day that the 2010 model of the CLS will be available with a 350CDI with 315 bhp plus lots of torque. Surely this engine will find its way into the GL. It paired to a hybrid drivetrain would certainly move the GL quite nicely.
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It seems we are quickly headed back in the direction of malaise of the 70s...
I for one will fight it... Speed and horsepower are just too dang much fun. But in my mind horsepower really has its place... Not necessarily stacked behind a 3 ton people carrier, but in a proper sports car, where it belongs.
I will, however, take gobs of torque and efficiency in my people carrier thank you.
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The vast majority of the acceleration and top speed that people are buying today are USELESS on public roads. That's what's great about diesels. They give you the power that you can actually use (0-30), and maybe you forfeit the top end.
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The market will find (or create) loopholes just like it did in the past. If they think they can sell it, they'll find a way to make it exempt from CAFE standards or do whatever it takes to get it to market. Greed trumps all.
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