Sanity Price Check Also - GL320
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Sanity Price Check Also - GL320
What do you think I should pay?
Car #1 - '07 GL320
NOT CPO - Warranty expires in June next year.
38K miles
Condition: Exterior is good except one dent on the skid plate; Interior is good.
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Rear view camera
Rear ent. system
Stainless skid plate
3-zone A/C
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Sunroof package
Car #2 - '08 GL320
CPO
27K miles
Condition: Seems to be excellent
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3-zone A/C
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I checked KBB & Edmunds & Manheim.... Manheim seems to be the most accurate for GL450 (add around $2-3K). KBB & Edmunds seem to be a tad too high... can't say for sure for GL320 since Manheim doesn't have many and not a lot of GL320 out there, hence, this thread.
Anyway... if anyone has a GL320 for sale or thinking of selling... let me know.
Car #1 - '07 GL320
NOT CPO - Warranty expires in June next year.
38K miles
Condition: Exterior is good except one dent on the skid plate; Interior is good.
MBTex
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Rear view camera
Rear ent. system
Stainless skid plate
3-zone A/C
Appearance package
Sunroof package
Car #2 - '08 GL320
CPO
27K miles
Condition: Seems to be excellent
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Rear view camera
3-zone A/C
IPOD
Sunroof package
I checked KBB & Edmunds & Manheim.... Manheim seems to be the most accurate for GL450 (add around $2-3K). KBB & Edmunds seem to be a tad too high... can't say for sure for GL320 since Manheim doesn't have many and not a lot of GL320 out there, hence, this thread.
Anyway... if anyone has a GL320 for sale or thinking of selling... let me know.
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2008 GL 320, 2007 Silverado LTZ C3500 Duramax Turbo Diesel
I can tell you this. Historically Edmunds and KBB are worthless for diesel trucks. S&D will dictate the price and as you have already seen, supply is very low.
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So if you were to buy one of the above cars and given at would you offer?
Do you think I should start my offer @ $37K for car #1 (considering warranty is almost out) and @ $44K for car #2? Too low? Too high? About right?
I really want to gauge whether it's worth to buy a diesel albeit better resale value... my take right now diesel has better resale value but would be at most $2K compared to comparable 450, no?
The reason I'm leaning towards diesel is not the gas price... but more durability. I know MB diesel engine is bulletproof.
Do you think I should start my offer @ $37K for car #1 (considering warranty is almost out) and @ $44K for car #2? Too low? Too high? About right?
I really want to gauge whether it's worth to buy a diesel albeit better resale value... my take right now diesel has better resale value but would be at most $2K compared to comparable 450, no?
The reason I'm leaning towards diesel is not the gas price... but more durability. I know MB diesel engine is bulletproof.
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2008 GL 320 CDI, 2004 VW V10 Touareg TDI
This won't directly answer your question but it does relate to eventual resalability and value when you chose to sell: Given a choice between the '07 and '08 CDIs, I'd pick the '07 every time. Reason: 4-5 mpg better mileage. Mercedes put a different 'tune' in the '08s which messed up the mileage. That makes a BIG difference to anyone who expects to put miles on the truck. Hence it is more valuable.
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Can you explain in more detail what the difference is between the 2007 & 2008 diesel engine tuning or set-up? Thanks.
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2008 GL 320 CDI
So if you were to buy one of the above cars and given at would you offer?
Do you think I should start my offer @ $37K for car #1 (considering warranty is almost out) and @ $44K for car #2? Too low? Too high? About right?
I really want to gauge whether it's worth to buy a diesel albeit better resale value... my take right now diesel has better resale value but would be at most $2K compared to comparable 450, no?
The reason I'm leaning towards diesel is not the gas price... but more durability. I know MB diesel engine is bulletproof.
Do you think I should start my offer @ $37K for car #1 (considering warranty is almost out) and @ $44K for car #2? Too low? Too high? About right?
I really want to gauge whether it's worth to buy a diesel albeit better resale value... my take right now diesel has better resale value but would be at most $2K compared to comparable 450, no?
The reason I'm leaning towards diesel is not the gas price... but more durability. I know MB diesel engine is bulletproof.
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Some dealers ask around $49-50K... and based on my experience, I usually could get it 10% below the asking price. Granted, some dealers may already give aggressive pricing so 10% will be below their cost... but it doesn't hurt to try.
Plus I don't think diesels would be more than 5% higher price than the gasoline. '08 gasolines w/ similar options & miles to car #2 are asked around 44-46K by local dealers.
Fourdiesel: Could you elaborate? Any hard evidence (e.g. some articles)? If that's true, that'll really turn me off getting '08+ diesels.
Plus I don't think diesels would be more than 5% higher price than the gasoline. '08 gasolines w/ similar options & miles to car #2 are asked around 44-46K by local dealers.
Fourdiesel: Could you elaborate? Any hard evidence (e.g. some articles)? If that's true, that'll really turn me off getting '08+ diesels.
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This won't directly answer your question but it does relate to eventual resalability and value when you chose to sell: Given a choice between the '07 and '08 CDIs, I'd pick the '07 every time. Reason: 4-5 mpg better mileage. Mercedes put a different 'tune' in the '08s which messed up the mileage. That makes a BIG difference to anyone who expects to put miles on the truck. Hence it is more valuable.
Advising some dude that he will have more resale on a one year older truck? That takes the cake!
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I have noted that recently SOME '08 users have reported over 28mpg trips (I don't know if these figures were based on the car computer or fill up data) so PERHAPS some of the later '08s made it out of the factory with something different in their ECU. I just don't know.
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LOL.... no, I think fourdiesel didn't mean that. He meant that '07 should have better resale value (% of MSRP given same age, mileage, options, condition, etc... but still lower than '08 in terms of absolute $).
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2008 GL 320 CDI, 2004 VW V10 Touareg TDI
Source? EPA & Transport Canada numbers the same for both years. I have an '08, and I have pulled some impressive numbers, but 4-5mpg more? we are talking sub-compact territory there, it's not possible.
Advising some dude that he will have more resale on a one year older truck? That takes the cake!
Advising some dude that he will have more resale on a one year older truck? That takes the cake!
2nd point - please point out where I said he will have more resale on an older truck
What I said was that a truck that gets better mileage is important to someone that puts a lot of miles on. It is therefore more valuable. Please don't assume I said it was more valuable than a newer vehicle. The context is ALSO stated as my personal preference. Personal preference is stated on these forums all the time - It is what makes them interesting and, shall I use the word, valuable. (Whoops, I didn't say valuable with respect to what! My bad!)
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The difference between 2007 and 2008 EPA fuel economy figures is because the EPA changed their testing methods for reporting on the 2008 and beyond models. The 2007 and before EPA numbers were higher than almost anyone was really getting.
The EPA highway number for my 2008 ML320 CDI is 24 and, with about 10K on the odometer, that's what it got on two long trips. It also gets right at the EPA city number of 18 mpg when I'm driving around near where I live. So for me the new EPA numbers are accurate.
That's with 32 psi in all 4 tires, 255/50-19.
The EPA highway number for my 2008 ML320 CDI is 24 and, with about 10K on the odometer, that's what it got on two long trips. It also gets right at the EPA city number of 18 mpg when I'm driving around near where I live. So for me the new EPA numbers are accurate.
That's with 32 psi in all 4 tires, 255/50-19.
