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Old Jul 28, 2020 | 04:48 PM
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GL 320 rear end sagging

Two years ago I changed both air bags at the back to Arnot. These have worked excellently until now. Lately, the rear, both sides, have started to fall down. In about 48 hours, the rear of the car is completely down. When I start, it takes a short time (minutes) before the rear part is up to normal level. The car is a GL320 2009 model with 140,000 km on the counter.
Is there anyone in here who has experience with this problem and may be able to point out some "common" problem points that may be causing this?

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Old Jul 28, 2020 | 07:23 PM
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Replace your rear air bags (for free, because Arnott).
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Old Jul 28, 2020 | 09:18 PM
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Replace your rear air bags (for free, because Arnott).
This, easy, done!
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Old Jul 29, 2020 | 02:19 AM
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Hi and thanks for the reply.
How can I be sure that the bags are the problem?
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Old Jul 29, 2020 | 01:28 PM
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Call Arnott or the people that sold you the airbags and have them ship you a replacement. They will charge you and then refund when they receive the old ones back. Let them deflate, jack the back end up, remove the airbags, install the new ones. It is super easy.
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Old Jul 29, 2020 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Amos Thunder
Hi and thanks for the reply.
How can I be sure that the bags are the problem?
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Easy ... they are Arnott.
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Old Jul 29, 2020 | 04:04 PM
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Always start with the free troubleshooting step...in this case, that would be getting the warranty replacement bags.

If you really wanted you could get some leak detector spray and find which bag is leaking...but why spend lots of Kroners and time on that.

15 minutes per side and you’re done.
If against all odds it still sags check the hose connections on the bags and then the valve block.

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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 12:22 PM
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Thanks for the input.
Yes, it's quick to change the air bags, I've done that before.
What is a little unusual is that both begin to leak at the same time.
Is it the case that if one is punctured, then it will affect the other?
In other words, are they connected to each other in the valve block, which is the next point that can fail?

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Originally Posted by Amos Thunder
Thanks for the input.
Yes, it's quick to change the air bags, I've done that before.
What is a little unusual is that both begin to leak at the same time.
Is it the case that if one is punctured, then it will affect the other?
In other words, are they connected to each other in the valve block, which is the next point that can fail?

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The car will try to level itself, but the bags aren’t interconnected. Of one leaks, the level sensor on that wheel will trigger the airmatic system to order the other side down as well. Same for the fronts, which is why in some cases the whole car pancakes.
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Old Aug 8, 2020 | 02:48 AM
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Good morning from Norway :-)
I have several questions that maybe the community here can help me with. Lifted the car to the highest level and sprayed the bags behind with leak tests. No leak found on the bags behind. The car stood for about 12 hours without falling down. So to the questions.
Should the compressor start with only the ignition on without the engine running?
I started the engine and set the switch to the lowest level, the light in the switch flashed, and the instrument showed that it was about to lower, but nothing happened.
Put the car in gear and drove a few meters back and forth and then it began to lower to the lowest level.
Is that how it should be?
I will leave it in the lowest position to see if it falls from this position.
Where is the valve block and compressor located in the car?
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Old Aug 8, 2020 | 07:39 AM
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You may have a stuck or binding level sensor. I say that because based on that you had to move the car to get any response from the system. The minor movement back and forth could have unstuck your binding level sensor and allowed the system to operate normally so do yourself a favor and check all four for smooth operation.

Now, just because the bags held air in the fully raised position does not remove them from suspicion. Also try to soap them up in the normal position. It is very possible that you have a pinhole leak in one of them that is exposed and allowed to leak when the car sits just so. it’s super frustrating to troubleshoot and this is why Arnotts free replacement policy comes in handy.

the valve block and compressor are in front of the passenger side front wheel and are accessed by turning the wheel full right and removing the front half of the wheel well liner.

***If you are breaking connections to the valve block your car must be on jackstands***

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Old Aug 18, 2020 | 02:54 AM
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Good morning from Norway
The workshop chain "Mekonomen" (they are a supplier of Arnott in Norway) finally approved to change my air bags. Expect them to be here in a week.
At the same time as I talked to my supplier in Norway, I sent an email to Arnott's Europe office and they may have had an impact on the decision of my supplier.

Happy ending so far

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Old Aug 19, 2020 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Max Blast
You may have a stuck or binding level sensor. I say that because based on that you had to move the car to get any response from the system. The minor movement back and forth could have unstuck your binding level sensor and allowed the system to operate normally so do yourself a favor and check all four for smooth operation.

Now, just because the bags held air in the fully raised position does not remove them from suspicion. Also try to soap them up in the normal position. It is very possible that you have a pinhole leak in one of them that is exposed and allowed to leak when the car sits just so. it’s super frustrating to troubleshoot and this is why Arnotts free replacement policy comes in handy.

the valve block and compressor are in front of the passenger side front wheel and are accessed by turning the wheel full right and removing the front half of the wheel well liner.

***If you are breaking connections to the valve block your car must be on jackstands***

Hey y’all. I have a similar issue as well with my 2011 GL450. It happens randomly but I will get a malfunction message that pops up while driving. Sometimes on highway or while driving at speeds around 30 mph. Also, the ride height seems a little low as well ( could be wrong. There’s 5 fingers of gap) but I doesn’t seem to effect driving at all. One side on the passenger rear seems a finger lower than the driver rear though. Could it be my sensors as well? She’s at 80k atm. Any info helps. Thanks! 🙏
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Old Aug 19, 2020 | 01:35 AM
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Hey y’all. I have a similar issue as well with my 2011 GL450. It happens randomly but I will get a malfunction message that pops up while driving. Sometimes on highway or while driving at speeds around 30 mph. Also, the ride height seems a little low as well ( could be wrong. There’s 5 fingers of gap) but I doesn’t seem to effect driving at all. One side on the passenger rear seems a finger lower than the driver rear though. Could it be my sensors as well? She’s at 80k atm. Any info helps. Thanks! 🙏
What is the malfunction message you see? If you have a scan tool, it would be a good idea to check for codes. Or take it to a shop which is equipped to do this on MB vehicles.
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Old Aug 25, 2020 | 09:40 PM
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What is the malfunction message you see? If you have a scan tool, it would be a good idea to check for codes. Or take it to a shop which is equipped to do this on MB vehicles.
Hi thanks for the response! I get a malfunction up arrow. I got a scan tool and when I ran it, it said recovery time of the central reservoir is too long(C1503). I also get a code stating recovery times during filling of air suspension strut is too long (C1505). When I purchased the Gl, it would always make a hissing noise when I would open the door as if it was adjusting the ride height but doesn’t do that anymore. But one day we were driving and I think I pressed or had the raise option held on by my phone (no spot to prop the phone up) and at a light , the message popped up. Since then, it would randomly pop up with the malfunction up arrow. Could my sensors be spazzing out? I hope it’s not a bag going out.
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Tho last two point to a worn out compressor.
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Old Aug 27, 2020 | 12:36 AM
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Tho last two point to a worn out compressor.
Will the suv still maintain ride height even when the compressor is going out? Mine doesn’t drop all the way and maintains height even after I turn it off. I left it in the garage for a week and when I took it out, the compressor kicked on and it seemed to run just fine ( just no hissing sound when opening the doors anymore). Should I replace the compressor? Or could a wonky relay be spazzing it out? Thank y’all again for all this help. My family and I really appreciate it!
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