GL Class (X164) 2007-2012: GL320CDI, GL420CDI, GL450, GL550

Mercedes GL450 rear right rear shocks loosing air pressure

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Dec 30, 2020 | 11:17 PM
  #1  
vladc77's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 205
Likes: 12
Mercedes Benz, BMW
Question Mercedes GL450 rear right rear shocks loosing air pressure

Hello all,

I am wondering if anyone experienced the same issue and can suggest a proper solution to fix it. The tight rear air spring was loosing air slowly, like half of the normal pressure within a week if vehicle was parked. I would not even notice that if I had to use this vehicle every day. I replaced both rear air springs. However, the issue did not end. The right rear air spring is still loosing air at the same pace. Then, I checked for air leakages all hoses attached to the air spring and compressor with soap/foam water. I did not see any bubbles of air. I am puzzled since I just cannot find the air leakage yet. I am wondering what else can cause this air leakage and where to look to find the issue. Perhaps, I did not test correctly as well. Please let me know the best way to test it correctly. Any advice is highly appreciated!

Last edited by vladc77; Dec 31, 2020 at 03:01 PM. Reason: typo
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2020 | 12:36 PM
  #2  
expl0rer's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Nov 2019
Posts: 648
Likes: 144
From: Yeast Coast, Canada
GL550 X164
Have you scanned for codes? Does the truck lose height in one corner more than the others? What about the front? Any change in height there? Visually you may not be able to tell, but you could measure the heights in each corner. Codes could tell you where the problem might be.
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2020 | 01:44 PM
  #3  
Max Blast's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,116
Likes: 782
NGL450 w/EORP, S550
Search the forum for how to replace your rear airbags. They are leaking.

$300 and 30 minutes if you DIY it.
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2020 | 02:56 PM
  #4  
vladc77's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 205
Likes: 12
Mercedes Benz, BMW
I scanned the vehicle using Xentry for any error codes. I did not find any airmatic related codes. The problem occurs only with one right rear air spring. All other corners are very stable. Now, I am thinking it could be a Suspension Self-Leveling Valve. what is the best way to test it?

Last edited by vladc77; Dec 31, 2020 at 04:21 PM.
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2020 | 03:03 PM
  #5  
vladc77's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 205
Likes: 12
Mercedes Benz, BMW
Max Blast, did you mean air spring? If Yes, I replaced them already. I am not sure if rear airbag leakage may affect leakage of any of air springs. Did you experience that?
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2020 | 07:37 PM
  #6  
lkchris's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,189
Likes: 242
From: Albuquerque
'10 CL550, '12 GL550
Your car has springs and shock absorbers. Shock absorbers can leak oil and when they do, it’s time to replace them. There is no way possible for a shock absorber to affect vehicle height.

springs on GL are rubber airbags, which like shock absorbers are limited life items. A leaking air spring can affect vehicle eight.

For GL rear suspension, springs and shocks are separate components. At front they are combined into a single unit, usually called a strut.
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2020 | 08:05 PM
  #7  
vladc77's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 205
Likes: 12
Mercedes Benz, BMW
lkchris, thank you for clarifying. I am totally aware about that. My mistake with the title. I always was referring to having issues with air springs - rubber airbags.
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2020 | 08:29 PM
  #8  
vladc77's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 205
Likes: 12
Mercedes Benz, BMW
In addition, I tested Pneumatic Suspension Valve for air leak. I did not find any leakage as well.
Reply
MB World Stories

The Best of Mercedes & AMG

story-0

6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Dec 31, 2020 | 10:39 PM
  #9  
expl0rer's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Nov 2019
Posts: 648
Likes: 144
From: Yeast Coast, Canada
GL550 X164
Originally Posted by vladc77
I scanned the vehicle using Xentry for any error codes. I did not find any airmatic related codes. The problem occurs only with one right rear air spring. All other corners are very stable. Now, I am thinking it could be a Suspension Self-Leveling Valve. what is the best way to test it?
Noy sure what you mean by self leveling valve. Each corner has a sensor which is responsible for detecting the height of the vehicle in that corner. It may not be working, or it may be stuck. Check the arms of the sensor. The arms are connected to the sensors with *****/sockets. If the ***** are seized in the sockets, it could be the reason you're seeing a difference in height.

I had an issue with one sensor being seized which made the vehicle look not levelled. It did not look slammed in my case, but it may in yours. I soaked the joint in diesel to penetrate the grime and with gentle motion helped it regain its mobility. You can pop the ball out of the socket and use some grease to lubricate it before reassembly, which I did as well.

Is your rear getting slammed on both sides?
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2020 | 11:02 PM
  #10  
vladc77's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 205
Likes: 12
Mercedes Benz, BMW
epl0rer,

I referred to this self leveling valve - https://www.autohausaz.com/pn/AI-2123200358

Thank you for the tip to check sensors. I will check again. Last time I looked there, I tried it to turn it and wasn't stuck or anything like that. However, the level of the rear end side comes to normal height as soon as I turn the engine on. I assume the leveling check happens after that. So, It seems like that sensor does the job correctly. Otherwise, the vehicle would never level this side back to normal. The rear side levels down only after a week on not using the vehicle. This side goes down very SLOW. I really have hard time identifying what causing that.
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2020 | 11:11 PM
  #11  
expl0rer's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Nov 2019
Posts: 648
Likes: 144
From: Yeast Coast, Canada
GL550 X164
Originally Posted by vladc77
epl0rer,

I referred to this self leveling valve - https://www.autohausaz.com/pn/AI-2123200358

Thank you for the tip to check sensors. I will check again. Last time I looked there, I tried it to turn it and wasn't stuck or anything like that. However, the level of the rear end side comes to normal height as soon as I turn the engine on. I assume the leveling check happens after that. So, It seems like that sensor does the job correctly. Otherwise, the vehicle would never level this side back to normal. The rear side levels down only after a week on not using the vehicle. This side goes down very SLOW. I really have hard time identifying what causing that.
The signs lead towards a leak in one or both rear bags. You've replaced them, but from what you're seeing/saying, there seems to be a leak there. You could manipulate the rear bags with DAS and perhaps isolate which side is the culprit. I'd be looking at replacing those if it were me.
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2021 | 12:29 PM
  #12  
Max Blast's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,116
Likes: 782
NGL450 w/EORP, S550
If you’ve recently replaced your rear air bags check the hose connection for any leaks using leak detection spray.
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2021 | 02:05 PM
  #13  
vladc77's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 205
Likes: 12
Mercedes Benz, BMW
Max_Blast, thank you for the suggestion. I did that before. I am going to double check. I assume it should be only the air bag or Pneumatic Suspension Valve. I don't see what else can cause it.
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2021 | 09:49 AM
  #14  
mrgrmoore's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
GL450
Smile

May be the hose connection leaking on the air pump body located under the right front fender just below the right front head light. The electronic air distribution body works with the leveling regulator arms and the air pump to change the amount of air to each of the four corners of the vehicle as needed. If connector to the right rear corner is loose or cracked, it will allow for air to escape when the vehicle is not running. As soon as you start the vehicle and the sensors recognize the height is low - the system probably pushes a sufficient stream to the port and pumps you up to the proper height - and probably tops it off throughout each journey as needed.
Reply
Old Jan 12, 2021 | 03:29 AM
  #15  
vladc77's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 205
Likes: 12
Mercedes Benz, BMW
mrgrmoore, thank you for recommendations. I believe I figure out what was the problem. I tested air leak from the rear air bag a again and a bit long using soap water. So, I identified very small air leak from CONNECTOR 0003270369. I tightened this up a bit more and it seems to stop air leakage. I will wait for a week to find out if it will fully resolve the air leak. It was not easy to find since the air leak was very minimal. It will be the cheapest fix If that will resolve the issue.
Reply
Old Jan 12, 2021 | 10:29 AM
  #16  
eric_in_sd's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,755
Likes: 628
From: Emmett, ID, USA
2007 GL450
Originally Posted by vladc77
mrgrmoore, thank you for recommendations. I believe I figure out what was the problem. I tested air leak from the rear air bag a again and a bit long using soap water. So, I identified very small air leak from CONNECTOR 0003270369. I tightened this up a bit more and it seems to stop air leakage. I will wait for a week to find out if it will fully resolve the air leak. It was not easy to find since the air leak was very minimal. It will be the cheapest fix If that will resolve the issue.
Soapy Wooder to the rescue again!

Congrats. Easy fixes give a real rush when you find them, am I right?
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2021 | 10:35 PM
  #17  
vladc77's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 205
Likes: 12
Mercedes Benz, BMW
Agree! Thank you!
Reply

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:05 AM.

story-0
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

Slideshow: Not every Mercedes design becomes timeless, some feel stuck in the era they came from.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:09:07


VIEW MORE
story-1
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

Slideshow: Yes, Mercedes built manual cars, and some of them are far more interesting than you'd expect.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-02 12:36:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 11:19:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Before curves took over, Mercedes mastered the art of the straight line, and some of those shapes still look right today.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-25 12:05:49


VIEW MORE
story-4
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

Slideshow: The 190E Evolution II shows how a homologation necessity became a six-figure collector icon.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-22 17:53:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes is turning one of its core nameplates electric, and the details show just how serious this shift is.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:58:06


VIEW MORE
story-6
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

Slideshow: Faster charging, longer range, and a controversial steer-by-wire system define the latest evolution of Mercedes-Benz EQS.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-15 10:35:34


VIEW MORE
story-7
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

Slideshow: These overlooked Mercedes-Benz models never got the spotlight, but they quietly delivered more than most remember.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-13 19:35:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

Slideshow: A well-used 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300D with more than one million miles is now looking for a new owner, and it still appears ready for more.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-10 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

Slideshow: From bulletproof sedans to surprisingly tough SUVs, these Mercedes models proved that the three-pointed star can go the distance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-08 09:55:49


VIEW MORE