GL Class (X164) 2007-2012: GL320CDI, GL420CDI, GL450, GL550

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Old Jun 12, 2021 | 10:17 AM
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Sold the GL After 8 Years

Finally sold my 2012 GL 350. I probably wouldn't have, especially after exporting the car to Finland a year and a half ago, which was a bit of an ordeal, but now we're moving to the UK and it doesn't make sense to drive a left hand drive car there.

Since arriving here, the car has done pretty well, but was heavily taxed and therefore expensive to own. I only did a couple repairs; the DEF heater failed and I had to change the seals in the oil filter housing again due to another big leak. Other than that, it performed well and still has super low miles (140k KM, or roughly 87,000 miles.) I bought the car with 20,000 miles on it, so didn't really put a lot of miles on it in 8 years. Overall, the car required a lot of repair work, but fortunately most of it was done under warranty. I did all the other work myself so only incurred parts cost, which were terrible.

Not sure what I'll get next, but I'm leaning towards a Porsche Panamera e-hybrid (gas is EXPENSIVE in the UK.) We'll see.

The car sold for €33,000 which seems like a lot, but I paid €12,000 in taxes when it got here, and $3,500 to ship it over. I consider it a push since I would have had to buy or lease something here anyway. It sold really fast as GL's are pretty rare here, and obviously suited to the climate.
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Old Jun 12, 2021 | 12:16 PM
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Good luck with whatever is next. The Panamera is actually on my long list of potential GL replacements. I'm not sure which engine they use in the hybrid, but the V6 turbo they use in the Macan and Cayenne has an issue with bolts breaking on the timing chain cover which creates an oil leak that requires an engine out to fix. Porsche apparently used aluminum bolts that aren't up to the job. Might be worth some research to see if the version in the Panamera has the same issue.
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Old Jun 12, 2021 | 12:47 PM
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If I could get 8 years out of my GL it will be 18 years old and my son will be 17. If I am able to pass it down to my son as his first car and maybe squeeze another year or two out of it would be phenomenal. Can a GL550 with 65,000 miles make it to 20 years?
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Old Jun 12, 2021 | 01:28 PM
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If I could get 8 years out of my GL it will be 18 years old and my son will be 17. If I am able to pass it down to my son as his first car and maybe squeeze another year or two out of it would be phenomenal. Can a GL550 with 65,000 miles make it to 20 years?
I don't see why not. Ours is 13 years old with 216K. They have some issues well documented on here, but properly maintained, the big stuff stuff seems to be pretty durable, and the exterior (with the exception of the plastic roof panel) and interior have held up far better than any car I've ever owned. Our seats don't look "new", but there are many cars with 1/5th the mileage with more wear on the stuff that gets touched regularly. They age remarkably well for a German vehicle.
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Old Jun 12, 2021 | 02:28 PM
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I don't see why not. Ours is 13 years old with 216K. They have some issues well documented on here, but properly maintained, the big stuff stuff seems to be pretty durable, and the exterior (with the exception of the plastic roof panel) and interior have held up far better than any car I've ever owned. Our seats don't look "new", but there are many cars with 1/5th the mileage with more wear on the stuff that gets touched regularly. They age remarkably well for a German vehicle.
I have to agree. I am not a fan of beige because the wear tends ti be obvious and it's hard to keep clean. The wear was hardly noticeable. All of my seats are in great shape, the dash isn't faded or cracked. None of the wood trim is cracked or webbed. The same can be said for my S550, but that has a black interior. I was worried about my rear sunroof. I even asked why it was so hazy and not clear. It turns out that it wasn't hazed. or crazed as someone put it. It was just humid that day and was fogged up. LOL I was kind of embarrassed and relieved at the same time. The only issue we have found is the command cuts in and out of a phone call. Other than that My wife is really enjoying the car. She has put 1200 miles on so far. I was on the phone with her yesterday and some guy in the car next to her asked her if it was for sale. I told her to tell him $25,000.
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Old Jun 12, 2021 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by The Thomas J
If I could get 8 years out of my GL it will be 18 years old and my son will be 17. If I am able to pass it down to my son as his first car and maybe squeeze another year or two out of it would be phenomenal. Can a GL550 with 65,000 miles make it to 20 years?
Sorry, had to LOL. I've got over 250k miles on my 450 and it is still plugging along. It, for sure, will make it but will need the basic repairs all GL's suffer from over that time.
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Old Jun 12, 2021 | 08:08 PM
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Yeah man nice close out of the saga.
You did something unusual with a US market GL and came out allright.

best of luck with your next thing, but rest assured that no EU government is car friendly.
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Good luck with whatever is next. The Panamera is actually on my long list of potential GL replacements. I'm not sure which engine they use in the hybrid, but the V6 turbo they use in the Macan and Cayenne has an issue with bolts breaking on the timing chain cover which creates an oil leak that requires an engine out to fix. Porsche apparently used aluminum bolts that aren't up to the job. Might be worth some research to see if the version in the Panamera has the same issue.
@EWT On the failing bolts, is a link or document (TSB, recall) available on this? I’m a regular on Rennlist and haven’t seen this mentioned.
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Old Jun 12, 2021 | 09:03 PM
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Sorry, had to LOL. I've got over 250k miles on my 450 and it is still plugging along. It, for sure, will make it but will need the basic repairs all GL's suffer from over that time.
The count down in on!
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Old Jun 13, 2021 | 09:07 AM
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@EWT On the failing bolts, is a link or document (TSB, recall) available on this? I’m a regular on Rennlist and haven’t seen this mentioned.
I'm not sure. I just ran into it when looking into Cayennes. IIRC, you're out of luck if you're out of warranty. If you google Macan timing chain cover leak, you'll find a bunch of threads on Rennlist and other places.
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I'm not sure. I just ran into it when looking into Cayennes. IIRC, you're out of luck if you're out of warranty. If you google Macan timing chain cover leak, you'll find a bunch of threads on Rennlist and other places.
Yes, that's exactly how Mercedes treats out of warranty issues. For example the M274 piston cracking on 2.0L 4 cylinder engines in the C300, E300 and GLC300. So far the V167 GLE hasn't had any piston cracking on this site, but the M264 engine shares many core components with the M274. Just not the pistons.

M274 owners with cracked pistons with mileage or age out of warranty are SOL. The options for them are new engine or new car.

So it seems the Porsche examples are no different than Mercedes.

I'm in the market for a Cayenne at some point in the future, so if you dig up more on the bolt failures, please post here. The 9Y0 platform doesn't seem to have much/any of this (yet).
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Old Jun 14, 2021 | 09:21 AM
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I did a big read up on Panamaras yesterday and have not found any issues on timing cover bolts. I've certainly not read all the Rennlist threads, but a search didn't produce anything but Macan stuff.

Funnily enough, I sold my GL through a dealership here (that took a very small commission) and the only other GL on the lot was also a north American model that somebody imported, though it was a 2009.



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