GL Class (X164) 2007-2012: GL320CDI, GL420CDI, GL450, GL550

2007 320 cdi transmission issues

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Old Apr 9, 2023 | 01:19 PM
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2007 320 cdi transmission issues

What happens:

transmission shifts well when having no issues, but may "get stuck" when driving. Car almomst stalls/stops, and then goes into limp. It almost feels like it it puts itself in P while driving.

I am using Delphi software for diagnostics. I am including last 2 tranny readings and my last engine codes as well.
-I seem to have permanent C144 and always speed sensor related codes.
-also steering column related codes.
-lots of other stuff...

Please see codes below.

Opinions/Direction/ Help?

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Latest readings:
Gearbox (Gearbox - 7G-Tronic (Gearbox) - AT) DTC Description

C114 - No Communication with Transfer Case Control Module - Permanent
0894 - Gear is implausible or the transmission is slipping - Intermittent
0722 - Gearbox output speed sensor; no signal - Intermittent
0723 - Speed sensor output - Intermittent:
Previousl Readings:

Gearbox (Gearbox - 7G-Tronic (Gearbox) - AT)
DTC Description C114 - No Communication with Transfer Case Control Module - Permanent
0722 - Gearbox output speed sensor; no signal - Intermittent
C155 - No or incorrect CAN message from control unit Instrument cluster - Intermittent
C126 - No CAN message was received from control unit steering column module - Intermittent
D139 - No CAN message was received from control unit steering column module - Intermittent
C141 - Fault in CAN communication with central gateway - Intermittent
0723 - Speed sensor output - Intermittent
0894 - Gear is implausible or the transmission is slipping - Intermittent

Latest engine readings:
Diesel (642.940 - CR4 - MT/AT - 164.822)
DTC Description No fault codes
2296 - Transmission control ETC; short circuit to ground - Intermittent
2229 - Transmission Control: ETC fault - Intermittent
2232 - Transmission Control: ETC fault - Permanent
2355 - Exhaust gas recirculation, air mass is too small - Intermittent

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Old Apr 9, 2023 | 02:36 PM
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If you Google vehicle speed sensor and 7G, you’ll find that this is a component that usually fails with age. When it fails, it’ll go to a limp home mode, locking the car in second gear or the gear it is in when the failure occurs.

I’m inclined to believe that all the other codes are resulting from this being the root cause issue.

There are third-party solutions that could make this a $350 DIY, and there are dealer solutions that’ll make those a $3500 dealer only repair if you listen to their spiel.

The question is, do you really want to spend that much money on a CDI that’s going to throw all kinds of other life altering problems at you.
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Old Apr 9, 2023 | 03:03 PM
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Sorry, I happen to like dielsel over petrol MB so I'd certainly like to keep this one going strong...
When you mention 350 diy what's in your mind?
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Old Apr 9, 2023 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by julahti
Sorry, I happen to like dielsel over petrol MB so I'd certainly like to keep this one going strong...
When you mention 350 diy what's in your mind?
you buy a contactor plate set up and copy your existing contactor plates vin coding over to the new one using offline coding in Das / Mb Star / xentry.

I don’t know if your system can do that. If you don’t have a system that can do that there are third parties on the Internet who can code the new contactor plate to your car so then all you need to do is install the new contactor plates onto your old valve body, reassemble and refill the transmission fluid. The dealer will tell you that this is a theft prevention feature that locks the transmission to a car for its lifetime, and they are the only ones who can legally do it. Here in the US, we call bull**** on that.
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Originally Posted by Max Blast
The question is, do you really want to spend that much money on a CDI that’s going to throw all kinds of other life altering problems at you.
I don't get this statement.

I've had my CDI for about 5 years now and its been an amazing vehicle. We tow our trailer with it camping all the time and its the wifes daily driver. Its been pretty much trouble free overall. very happy with my first Benz product.

The fuel efficiency of the diesel is amazing. Coming from a long VAG background, I'm impressed with it.

...Would buy again...

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Old Apr 10, 2023 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Blast
you buy a contactor plate set up and copy your existing contactor plates vin coding over to the new one using offline coding in Das / Mb Star / xentry.

I don’t know if your system can do that. If you don’t have a system that can do that there are third parties on the Internet who can code the new contactor plate to your car so then all you need to do is install the new contactor plates onto your old valve body, reassemble and refill the transmission fluid. The dealer will tell you that this is a theft prevention feature that locks the transmission to a car for its lifetime, and they are the only ones who can legally do it. Here in the US, we call bull**** on that.
Thanks, there seems to be a nice writeup about this in the forum " DIY - GL320CDI 2007 - Conductor Plate and Valve Body removal "
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Old Apr 11, 2023 | 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Sallad
I don't get this statement.

I've had my CDI for about 5 years now and its been an amazing vehicle. We tow our trailer with it camping all the time and its the wifes daily driver. Its been pretty much trouble free overall. very happy with my first Benz product.

The fuel efficiency of the diesel is amazing. Coming from a long VAG background, I'm impressed with it.

...Would buy again...
You're an outlier. On the positive side!
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Distronic, Mercedes-Benz's adaptive cruise control system, is a sophisticated feature that enhances safety and convenience. However, the "external fault" message typically indicates a problem with the radar sensor or its calibration. Here’s a detailed guide to address this issue:
  1. Inspect the Radar Sensor:
    Check the front grille where the radar sensor is located. Dirt, debris, or damage can interfere with its functionality. Cleaning the sensor gently with a microfiber cloth might resolve minor issues.
  2. Verify Alignment and Calibration:
    If the sensor was misaligned due to impact or repair work, it needs to be recalibrated. This requires specialized tools and is best done by a Mercedes-Benz service center.
  3. Check for Electrical Issues:
    The external fault might stem from wiring problems or a malfunction in the control module. A diagnostic scan using an OBD-II tool specific to Mercedes-Benz can help identify error codes for a more precise diagnosis.
  4. Software Update:
    Outdated software might cause communication errors between the Distronic system and the vehicle. Ensuring your car's software is up-to-date can often fix these glitches.
  5. Seek Professional Assistance:
    If the above steps don’t resolve the issue, it’s advisable to visit a certified Mercedes-Benz technician. They have the expertise and tools to diagnose and repair complex Distronic faults.
  6. For storing vehicle service records, diagnostic reports, and technical manuals, TeraBox MOD APK offers an excellent solution. With unlimited storage, you can keep all your car-related documents safe and accessible whenever needed!

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if you decide to go the diy route.. search my write ups for changing all of the O-rings on the 8 shift solenoids also when you drop the valve body. There are some decent places to send the electronics to have the speed sensors replacement and the board tested also.
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