GASOLINE WARNING!!!! EPA SUCKS!!!!
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It is not just cars built before 2012. The use of higher levels of ethanol will corrode and destroy the fuel system AND give less mileage. All of this is being crammed down our throats by the EPA and the farmers subsidy that don't care about America.
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I read some months ago that there was so much push back the EPA decided not to mandate E15.
Personally, I only buy Top Tier gas.
In my area have not seen any retailers selling E15....yet.
Personally, I only buy Top Tier gas.
In my area have not seen any retailers selling E15....yet.
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I can't stand their "expert" who doesn't seem like she has a good understanding at all. This is true Fox Entertainment.
None of this stuff is new. As above, I don't use anything expect Top Tier premium gas; which are mostly ethanol free in Canada.
None of this stuff is new. As above, I don't use anything expect Top Tier premium gas; which are mostly ethanol free in Canada.
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Unfortunately, in my part of the country, very difficult to find a gas station selling real gas. Even Top Tier gas contains 10% ethanol.
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Here in Canada, the government mandates that all gas stations use 5% ethanol across it's grades. Some bands chose to use up to 10% ethanol in the regular grade and 0% ethanol in the premium grade for an average of 5%.
Here is a site that summarizes it by location. http://pure-gas.org/
Here is a site that summarizes it by location. http://pure-gas.org/
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Top Tier has nothing to do with ethanol content. Top Tier is only concerned with injector cleaners. It has nothing to do with the composition of the fuel or the percentage of ethanol. Lets look at the facts. Ethanol is a sham. It damages vehicles AND most importantly it does nothing to help reduce the reliance on foreign oil. Ethanol delivers less miles per gallon than gasoline AND it takes more energy to produce ethanol than it saves. It is a political sham that has been rammed down our throats by lying politicians, one party in particular. Now that the farmers are raising corn for ethanol production it takes corn away from livestock, which means it costs more to produce pork, beef, chicken, etc. It is a lie and a sham.But nobody cares about the average American.
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Before I decided to start using Top Tier gas did extensive research, discussed the issue with a petroleum engineer, and so am well versed on what Top Tier gas is and is not.
That said, completely agree that ethanol is nothing more than a huge government ripoff that does very little for clean air and benefits only growers, investers and producers. A classic example of inept government.
That said, completely agree that ethanol is nothing more than a huge government ripoff that does very little for clean air and benefits only growers, investers and producers. A classic example of inept government.
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Top tier is just a certification based on how much detergents are present in the gas. I never said it had anything to do with ethanol. I just said I only use gas that is ethanol free from top-tier suppliers.
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If you can buy top tier gas without ethanol you are very fortunate. You are also receiving more btu's and hence more power and more miles per gallon than those of us in the US living under the corrupt government and epa political system.
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What's tough about this is that there is a mandate in place to increase the alcohol levels even more. I don't get it since it's pretty much unanimous that alcohol in gas is a net loser for MPG and the environment.
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Ethanol fuel of any concentration sucks...especially for small engines (i.e. motorcycle, mowers, etc). In many places like where I liver, there are no alternatives.
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Happy to be corrected by someone better informed but think the situation here in Aust is similar to Canada. Legislation restricts amount of ethanol to 10% and compels labelling as E10 at the pump. Most common in NSW and QLD closer to production of ethanol.Biggest producer of ethanol here is a huge political contributor. Now why are you not surprised..?
My understanding of E10 impact on vehicles is that the engine itself doesnt give a damn about the presence of 10% ethanol ( it may or may not produce the same amount of energy...dont know) but the problem is that fuel system fittings made of certain synthetic materials can and do break down in the presence of ethanol and deliver gunk to the engine and injection systems thus causing failure. Later vehicles are "OK" because they use components unreactive to ethanol. So the problem is not the engine but the system components upstream.
My understanding of E10 impact on vehicles is that the engine itself doesnt give a damn about the presence of 10% ethanol ( it may or may not produce the same amount of energy...dont know) but the problem is that fuel system fittings made of certain synthetic materials can and do break down in the presence of ethanol and deliver gunk to the engine and injection systems thus causing failure. Later vehicles are "OK" because they use components unreactive to ethanol. So the problem is not the engine but the system components upstream.
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Yes, the engine does care, greatly. AAA and all of the major manufacturers have come out and stated the higher levels of ethanol, 15% or more damage engines AND will not be covered under warranty. And ethanol delivers less BTU's and power and less miles per gallon. It also uses more energy to create than it saves. Why do we have ethanol? Al Gore and the crooked lying democrats.
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LOL ...I bowed out at that stage, I agree that here in aust the whole E10 debate has been hopelessly politicised but am still of the opinion that a four stroke internal combustion engine will burn 10-15% of ethyl alcohol without any problem and the damage is from debris from fuel system damage upstream. More than happy to change my mind about that based on science and not politics. No dispute that energy content is lower, just as petroleum has lower energy content than diesel. The argument of course is that the reduced performance is worthwhile for the reduced pollution.....yeah well maybe, seems like a crap tradeoff to me.
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Faux Business? You are right. We should all listen to a more honest network with integrity. Such as.........MSNBC? NO. ABC, CBS, NBC, ..........NO! CNN? NO.
ever wonder why all those other channels never mention issues detrimental to the democrats and hillary, such as Benghazi, etc.
But lets drop the politics, for now, and get back to something I hope we can all agree. The EPA, Al Gore, Liberals and lying republicans all crammed ethanol down our throats even though it is an absolute scam and failure.
ever wonder why all those other channels never mention issues detrimental to the democrats and hillary, such as Benghazi, etc.
But lets drop the politics, for now, and get back to something I hope we can all agree. The EPA, Al Gore, Liberals and lying republicans all crammed ethanol down our throats even though it is an absolute scam and failure.
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Faux Business? You are right. We should all listen to a more honest network with integrity. Such as.........MSNBC? NO. ABC, CBS, NBC, ..........NO! CNN? NO.
ever wonder why all those other channels never mention issues detrimental to the democrats and hillary, such as Benghazi, etc.
But lets drop the politics, for now, and get back to something I hope we can all agree. The EPA, Al Gore, Liberals and lying republicans all crammed ethanol down our throats even though it is an absolute scam and failure.
ever wonder why all those other channels never mention issues detrimental to the democrats and hillary, such as Benghazi, etc.
But lets drop the politics, for now, and get back to something I hope we can all agree. The EPA, Al Gore, Liberals and lying republicans all crammed ethanol down our throats even though it is an absolute scam and failure.
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The fact is ethanol is being used all over the world since 1930's and has increased in our fuel the same pace in most countries as in the USA so to think its our politicians is just crazy talk but what do you expect from anyone that brings up "Bengazi"...
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Miami, with all due respect. I will be willing to avert, or at least try to avert from politics. But if you believe ethanol has positive qualities for fuel you obviously need to do much more research before you should, IMO, comment. I cannot think of a positive attribute of ethanol. It has less BTU's, less power, delivers less MPG, is corrosive; especially in higher concentrations, and uses more energy to develop than it saves. If I missed anything please feel free to comment. And yes it is just our politicians because they mandated the 10% ethanol or renewable fuel be mixed with gasoline.
