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Old 03-26-2019, 08:25 PM
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I did not drive the 350 since I have no interest in it.
What? But the dealer is telling me it is soooooo great.

(I just cannot buy a car at that price with a 2.0L.)
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Old 03-26-2019, 08:34 PM
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That's the PA4, which is designed for cars, as you can see by the sizes. The PA5 SUV would be the correct tire. https://www.michelinman.com/tire/mic...-alpin-pa5-suv
Thanks, I went back to the wrong Model tire to post. Golf day, got in a hurry.
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Old 03-26-2019, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by BACnMercedes View Post
What? But the dealer is telling me it is soooooo great.

(I just cannot buy a car at that price with a 2.0L.)
Maybe the 4 is okay in the GLC, but just can’t see it in the GLE. Plus (or minus) you lose the 48 volt system including EQ Boost and get a lesser 4Matic system.

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Old 03-26-2019, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon View Post
I am reposting the pricing worksheet I developed, updated to the 3/14 DOG.
Thanks Greg for your work/volunteerism. I was actually back in this thread to see if there was an update.

BTW, no one seems to be talking about the Audi Q8, which is interesting. I've still to drive the Q7 and probably will this weekend with the Q8 (and A6 and S6). I'm wondering what others here think of the Q8, compared to the GLE450? I think both the Q7 and Q8 are bland on the outside but I don't look at myself while driving either. I have a motorcycle for excitement/fun commuting days, and my consideration - or lack of, for the X5 is basically because I don't think BMWs are model-to-model, as nice as Audi/MB. I hope no one minds my question, but I've been wondering, and it seems people are talking about the X7 and I'm still not decided on my next vehicle.
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Thanks Greg for your work/volunteerism. I was actually back in this thread to see if there was an update.

BTW, no one seems to be talking about the Audi Q8, which is interesting. I've still to drive the Q7 and probably will this weekend with the Q8 (and A6 and S6). I'm wondering what others here think of the Q8, compared to the GLE450? I think both the Q7 and Q8 are bland on the outside but I don't look at myself while driving either. I have a motorcycle for excitement/fun commuting days, and my consideration - or lack of, for the X5 is basically because I don't think BMWs are model-to-model, as nice as Audi/MB. I hope no one minds my question, but I've been wondering, and it seems people are talking about the X7 and I'm still not decided on my next vehicle.
I considered the Q8 before ordering my GLE but it's really hard to compare without having both to drive back to back. Both are going to be fine cars but I think you get more for your money with the GLE and maybe more tech. With Audi you are paying for Level 3 Self Driving and Matrix Headlights that aren't activated yet in the US. When or if was not known last I checked. I thought the Audi was a little short on power compared to the Merc, it's the same engine in my wifes SQ5 and a heavier car. I like the EQ Boost in the GLE, since it should reduce Turbo Lag. I'm not sure I like the frameless windows in the Q8. Neat look and cool factor but could be trouble down the road???
You are close to the time that both should be building in inventory and maybe a good chance to compare them in real life. There really aren't any bad choices among all 3, IMO!

Edit-The Audi is longer but lower so step-in height is a little cramped. I do like the switch Audi made to Native Android for an operating system. I also like the open system that lets you modify some settings yourself for a small investment in OBD 11 or a similar tool.

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Old 03-26-2019, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by HBguy View Post
Thanks Greg for your work/volunteerism. I was actually back in this thread to see if there was an update.

BTW, no one seems to be talking about the Audi Q8, which is interesting. I've still to drive the Q7 and probably will this weekend with the Q8 (and A6 and S6). I'm wondering what others here think of the Q8, compared to the GLE450? I think both the Q7 and Q8 are bland on the outside but I don't look at myself while driving either. I have a motorcycle for excitement/fun commuting days, and my consideration - or lack of, for the X5 is basically because I don't think BMWs are model-to-model, as nice as Audi/MB. I hope no one minds my question, but I've been wondering, and it seems people are talking about the X7 and I'm still not decided on my next vehicle.
I don’t think the Q8 is bland, but It is upmarket, like the future GLE Coupe. Is it also larger (haven’t seen one in the flesh)? The X7 is definitely larger and it’s been mentioned here because member JoeMa jumped ship to it after he got tired of waiting, but he was coming from a GLS. BMWs have there strong points and I love my current M4 DD.

If you don’t need a true 3rd row I would not go larger than necessary. Size comes with fun penalties as well as economy, of course.

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Old 03-27-2019, 07:42 AM
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I have a Q8 as a loaner while my Audi is in for a recall. It is a base model and while both the wife and I like the exterior looks and the glass cockpit, it did not impress either of us in the way that it drives. The ride is quite firm and the new turbo 3.0 seems somewhat rough. It does have adequate power, however. We also noticed the step-in height to be rather awkward for us ( 5'2 and 5'7). Fuel mileage around 20 in mixed driving. Our overall evaluation....meh, pass.
While we have not driven the GLE450, we are in the ordering process this week. I have been a lurker here for quite some time and really appreciate the wealth of information that is available. Thank you to all

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Old 03-27-2019, 12:16 PM
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I wonder why DA3 parking package herew is $400, but online configuartor shows $800?

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Here's my updated order sheet. The Load Sill Protector is not listed for some reason. I got the rear side air bags by mistake - I inquired about price and they were added and order locked before I could remove them.

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Old 03-27-2019, 12:24 PM
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I wonder why DA3 parking package herew is $400, but online configuartor shows $800?
$400 is correct - see post #2908: https://mbworld.org/forums/gle-class...ml#post7709438
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Old 03-27-2019, 12:28 PM
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Great, thank you. I order it in configuration, but started to worry that I did't get the whole surround view package.
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I ordered 21" tires. Do you think 21" AMG tires would be much stiffer vs. 20" tires?
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Old 03-27-2019, 06:21 PM
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I ordered 21" tires. Do you think 21" AMG tires would be much stiffer vs. 20" tires?
They will be a bit less compliant, because they have shorter sidewalls. However, compared to the outgoing W166 GLE all the tires went up a size, meaning the 275/45-21 fronts, for instance, have about the same sidewall height as the W166's 265/45-20s. For the Pirelli Scorpion Verde the sidewall height is 4.9" for the 21s vs. 4.7" for the 20s. I have 20s on my current W166 and I think they are just fine. The 275/50-20s on the V167 have a sidewall height 5.5", so those would be "cushier."

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Old 03-27-2019, 06:27 PM
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They will be a bit less compliant, because they have shorter sidewalls. However, compared to the outgoing W166 GLE all the tires went up a size, meaning the 275/45-21 fronts, for instance, have about the same sidewall height as the W166's 265/45-20s. For the Pirelli Scorpion Verde the sidewall height is 4.9" for the 21s vs. 4.7" for the 20s. I have 20s on my current W166 and I think they are just fine.
So the sidewall difference of only 0.2" seems small. In my soon to be replaced W166 I have 19" tires and I felt it rides a bit too soft.

Thank you, Greg.
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Old 03-27-2019, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by chelentano99 View Post
So the sidewall difference of only 0.2" seems small. In my soon to be replaced W166 I have 19" tires and I felt it rides a bit too soft.
21s on the new car are 0.2" taller compared to 20s on the W166. Compared to 255/50-19s (is that the size on your car) they are 0.15" shorter (not much).

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Old 03-28-2019, 01:45 PM
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My dealer called me yesterday and told me that he is trying to place my order and that there is an issue that locks MBUX tech package out. Hopefully, he will get it sorted out. I suppose it could be relative to the "assistant" feature that has been meintioned as not available.......dunno. Will just wait and see. I am not in a hurry.
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I posted some time back that the Netstar system wouldn't let them do MBUX, and the dealer didn't know when it would become available again. I was told that the first time in February, and again a couple of weeks ago, so apparently it's not a simple issue. I suppose I can always cancel the order if MBUX isn't available when the build actually starts.
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I posted some time back that the Netstar system wouldn't let them do MBUX, and the dealer didn't know when it would become available again. I was told that the first time in February, and again a couple of weeks ago, so apparently it's not a simple issue. I suppose I can always cancel the order if MBUX isn't available when the build actually starts.
I thought they just deleted the assistant from the package and reduced the price
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Old 03-28-2019, 03:25 PM
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I thought they just deleted the assistant from the package and reduced the price
That's what they did to my order. Changed DA0 to DQ1 which eliminated the assistant.
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That's what they did to my order. Changed DA0 to DQ1 which eliminated the assistant.
I just spoke to the "executive referral manager" at MBUSA who was supposed to be looking into my build. He said he has sent my info to the "logistics team at the VPC" and is waiting for a response. My production started 5 weeks ago today! Frustrating!
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Hope to hear some good news from Greg and Ron.
Placed an order for the third decade of May. Still in a dilemma whether to wait for it or start looking for one of the lot...!!!
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Can you always cancel/change your order once you place one? Will that incur any fees or you lose deposits?

I contacted several dealers in my area and apart from 1 or maybe 2 who said "Late April or May delivery", most of them said the wait is at least for "3-6months", "June or July", "Late Fall", "production has not started for 450s yet" etc... I am looking to order 450 with most of the stuff (except E-ABC). And yes, the online representative from MBUSA.com also said they are aiming for July for new orders.
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Can you always cancel/change your order once you place one? Will that incur any fees or you lose your deposit?
You need to have that understanding with the dealer, in writing, when you place the order. Deposit may be refundable or not. I didnít need to give a deposit because Iím a repeat customer.
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I just spoke to the "executive referral manager" at MBUSA who was supposed to be looking into my build. He said he has sent my info to the "logistics team at the VPC" and is waiting for a response. My production started 5 weeks ago today! Frustrating!
Wonder why the VPC rather than someone at the factory? Would it be built and shipped but not updated? Seems like a phone call would have been faster. I didn't realize that yours was so far past the build date, was thinking 2 weeks+.
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Hope to hear some good news from Greg and Ron.
Placed an order for the third decade of May. Still in a dilemma whether to wait for it or start looking for one of the lot...!!!
SA told me that mine was built last Friday, now trying to find out about The MBUX Tech Package to see how much of it I will get. SA was off today. I'm an optimist and have to think that MB will get full production going soon. But they are getting close to making me pessimistic. I had hoped for 2-3 week shipping but even shipping appears backed up. I may have to get out the bottle!
I don't understand dealers saying that GLE 450 production has stopped since mine was a 450. Engine shortage? Hybrid piece? I have never seen a rollout with so many issues-if you believe even half of what is reported.
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