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Old 04-01-2019, 01:40 PM
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I was checking the MBUSA site for GLE 450 inventory on the NE and found this GLE with E-ABC and it includes the interior assistant. Of course the picture is a base GLE and doesn't match the actual car at all.

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Old 04-01-2019, 01:56 PM
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I was checking the MBUSA site for GLE 450 inventory on the NE and found this GLE with E-ABC and it includes the interior assistant. Of course the picture is a base GLE and doesn't match the actual car at all.
I know you haven't been following here; that was posted in #3080. As noted, picture does not do it justice w/o AMG Line.
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Old 04-01-2019, 02:05 PM
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Speaking of the AMG exterior, I think it really Makes this vehicle. On the other hand, if they don't start cranking them out soon, I'm going to lose interest.
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Old 04-01-2019, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon View Post
I know you haven't been following here; that was posted in #3080. As noted, picture does not do it justice w/o AMG Line.
Sorry, youíre right, same car.
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There were some questions about the different AMG Tire/Wheel combo and losing sidewall with 21’s vs 20’s. As you can see the tire heights are similar but you lose about a half inch of sidewall with the 21’s. That makes sense since the wheel is an inch bigger. The rear 21 gains section width from 10.83 front to 12.4 rear. So the front will be subject to damage more easily on the 21. The rear is wider so will mitigate the lower sidewall to some extent.

AMG Wheels- Sidewall Height- Tire Height- Revs per Mile
275/50R20-.............. 5.41 .................30.82 .............654

275/45R21-...............4.87..................30.74 .............656
315/40R21-...............4.96 .................30.92 ............ 652

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Old 04-01-2019, 02:53 PM
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I thought the AMG 20 inch wheels came with 275/50R20 tires and the 21s have 275/45R20?
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Old 04-01-2019, 03:37 PM
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I thought the AMG 20 inch wheels came with 275/50R20 tires and the 21s have 275/45R20?

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Old 04-01-2019, 06:29 PM
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I thought the AMG 20 inch wheels came with 275/50R20 tires and the 21s have 275/45R20?
you are correct, I messed up and will correct my post. The numbers are correct just a typo.

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Old 04-01-2019, 06:36 PM
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No worries. I ordered my GLE450 with the AMG package and 20 inch rims so I am hoping I get those new Michelin Primacy Tour A/S tires and not cooper or pirelli. I am gonna get separate 19 inch rims for my 255/50R19 Blizzaks DM-V2 tires I am using now on our 2015 X5d.
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Old 04-01-2019, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Baloo588 View Post
No worries. I ordered my GLE450 with the AMG package and 20 inch rims so I am hoping I get those new Michelin Primacy Tour A/S tires and not cooper or pirelli. I am gonna get separate 19 inch rims for my 255/50R19 Blizzaks DM-V2 tires I am using now on our 2015 X5d.
I donít understand why the different brands. Maybe itís another example of a supply chain issue.
Hereís a link to a neat Tire Size Calculator by Discount Tire that lets you compare the Factory tire to an alternative size.
https://www.discounttire.com/learn/t...caAjj4EALw_wcB

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Glimmer of hope on my order??

Supposedly my vehicle started production and was assigned a VIN on 2/21, almost 6 weeks ago and has been in status B4 the last few weeks! Production date was 3/13, 19 days ago. So, I contacted MBUSA Customer Assistance Center a week ago and have had a couple emails & calls since with no information. So after another call to CAC today I finally get hold of the "executive referral manager" (fancy title, huh), who only told me GLE production has been on hold pending parts and he is trying to get more information. He was clueless beyond that.

Over the weekend I also got on my sales guy and the dealer sales manager. and told them they need to get on MBUSA, as well. Today I hear from my sales guy, who had called Distribution this morning and was told my order would be given "top priority" and should go B5 by the end of the week. He asked if my MBUX Tech Package or my designo trim selection was an issue and was told no. Apparently the sales manager also sent an email to Distribution and the West Coast Sales team explaining that a long time Mercedes customer was very unhappy and, what was going on?

So, at this point I will believe it when I see it. I must say if Mercedes handles all orders like this when there are production issues they are going down in reputation fast (and I will help!). Why NetStar can't be updated with a realistic best guess production date when the original one is not met I don't know, but it hasn't been in my case. I'm trying to keep the faith.
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Old 04-01-2019, 07:24 PM
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I donít understand why the different brands. Maybe itís another example of a supply chain issue.
Most manufacturers try to have two brands to guard against supply issues. With the Germans it seems to be Michelin, Pirelli and Continental. I guarantee you won't see any Hancock! Or Hankook!
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Most manufacturers try to have two brands to guard against supply issues. With the Germans it seems to be Michelin, Pirelli and Continental. I guarantee you won't see any Hancock! Or Hankook!
Pirelli or Conti’ s sure, but Cooper tires are on several GLE’s. To me that indicates a shortage of the intended tire from the supply chain. Audi used Michelin’s exclusively on the Premium SQ5 and as far as I know on the Q5 also but I haven’t followed that of late so things may have changed.
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Pirelli or Conti’ s sure, but Cooper tires are on several GLE’s. To me that indicates a shortage of the intended tire from the supply chain. Audi used Michelin’s exclusively on the Premium SQ5 and as far as I know on the Q5 also but I haven’t followed that of late so things may have changed.
I think there were Coopers on press vehicles and maybe some demos, but I would be surprised if the are on regular production vehicles. And I know they don't even make 21s so I don't have to worry!
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I noticed that mostly the GLE with the AMG packages are coming with the Michelins so fingers crossed. The regular versions are coming with mixtures of tires.

Glad to hear that you got a good update on your GLE Greg! Lets hope it gets to you soon!

My production date is 04/07/2019 so keeping fingers crossed that it will be delivered to southeast Michigan by April 26 when our X5d lease is up.
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Old 04-02-2019, 02:20 PM
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BMW has pulled ahead of Mercedes like I predicted:

BMW YTD - 73,888
MBUSA YTD - 71,171

The new GLE (2,196 sold, down 50% vs last year) just isn't at dealers and Mercedes has pretty much botched the launch IMO. That said, the G-Class is on FIRE with 2,293 sold in the first 3 months! Unheard of. The X7 (2186 units sold) is killing it also, as they're all of a sudden everywhere.

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Was at the dealership getting an oil change on my SL this morning. Stopped by to see my sales rep. He expressed concern that MB has screwed up the launch of the GLEs and has needlessly frustrated and disappointed their customer base. I'd say that's not an uncommon reaction based on the comments here.
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I've seen 3 or 4 titled new gle's in the dmv area this past week without really looking for them.

Haven't seen many x7 though....

Perhaps more cars were sent here?
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Was at the dealership getting an oil change on my SL this morning. Stopped by to see my sales rep. He expressed concern that MB has screwed up the launch of the GLEs and has needlessly frustrated and disappointed their customer base. I'd say that's not an uncommon reaction based on the comments here.
And the A Class launch was just as bad - cars were to be here in December and only now are a few starting to show up. I am a long time MB owner and am so disappointed in what is happening now. I will continue to wait for my GLE (ordered December 1, 2018) but every day I am more unhappy and the SA at the dealer is just clueless - he does not even understand the NetStar system and says he cannot check on the status of my order. GRRRRR!
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And the A Class launch was just as bad - cars were to be here in December and only now are a few starting to show up. I am a long time MB owner and am so disappointed in what is happening now. I will continue to wait for my GLE (ordered December 1, 2018) but every day I am more unhappy and the SA at the dealer is just clueless - he does not even understand the NetStar system and says he cannot check on the status of my order. GRRRRR!
You can always go over his head to the Sales Manager. The SA is working for you not the other way around. I don’t know squat but I do know that your order will have a Status Code (posted by Greg earlier) that tells where it is in the pipeline and also has an estimated build date. If you look back both Joe and Greg have posted a copy of the Netstar Screen for their order. My order was only a week ahead of yours and was completed over a week ago.
There’s always a possibility that he is stalling because nothings happening-it’s hard to believe that a SA can’t use Netstar the fundamental order system.
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You can always go over his head to the Sales Manager. The SA is working for you not the other way around. I don’t know squat but I do know that your order will have a Status Code (posted by Greg earlier) that tells where it is in the pipeline and also has an estimated build date. If you look back both Joe and Greg have posted a copy of the Netstar Screen for their order. My order was only a week ahead of yours and was completed over a week ago.
There’s always a possibility that he is stalling because nothings happening-it’s hard to believe that a SA can’t use Netstar the fundamental order system.
Been there, done that. He said he had no way to find out the information. So I am just waiting - fortunately I do not have to do anything with my existing cars. Again - some dealers/staff are just clueless ( or they don't want to really work the issue).
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Most manufacturers try to have two brands to guard against supply issues. With the Germans it seems to be Michelin, Pirelli and Continental. I guarantee you won't see any Hancock! Or Hankook!
Lots of Hankook on german cars: VW, BMW, GLC, Porsche Macan. I tested the Ventus and Winter Icept vs other premium brands on a 1 Series, GLC and my GL : good tires, but better in comfort than precision.
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Been there, done that. He said he had no way to find out the information. So I am just waiting - fortunately I do not have to do anything with my existing cars. Again - some dealers/staff are just clueless ( or they don't want to really work the issue).
I would avoid this dealer at all costs. They are either unethical, stupid or both. Every MB salesperson should know how to negotiate NetStar. Go in to the office and sit down with him at the screen and I bet you could figure it out!
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Thanks for this summary. I haven't been on here for a few years since I bought my 2012 ML (W166) and it's good to see the wealth of info!
I've still been trying to decide on the GLE 450 or an X5, such a hard decision.... My ML has served me well for the last 7 years.

I'm trying to figure out if my OEM wheels I use for winter with snow tires will still work on the new GLE. They're 8J x 19 with an ET56
A good friend of mine is a service tech at a local MB dealer and is trying to look into it for me but said the wheel bolts may have changed and the new GLE may use larger ones.
Does that make sense?
Would be a real plus if I could still use my old wheels for winter

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Thanks for this summary. I haven't been on here for a few years since I bought my 2012 ML (W166) and it's good to see the wealth of info!
I've still been trying to decide on the GLE 450 or an X5, such a hard decision.... My ML has served me well for the last 7 years.

I'm trying to figure out if my OEM wheels I use for winter with snow tires will still work on the new GLE. They're 8J x 19 with an ET56
A good friend of mine is a service tech at a local MB dealer and is trying to look into it for me but said the wheel bolts may have changed and the new GLE may use larger ones.
Does that make sense?
Would be a real plus if I could still use my old wheels for winter
IMO, those wheels should be just fine. I'm going to use the 20s from my '12 ML for Winters. Lug bolts went from 12mm to 14mm in 2012, so I'm sure they are not larger now. However, if you get the AMG Line Exterior package (highly recommended), you will need 20" wheels minimum because of brake size.

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