2020 V167 GLE
06-06-2019, 09:13 PM
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got the call, car is in
Placed order 3/14, just got the call today that it’s in. Picking it up tomorrow.
GLE 350 with Premium 1, 3rd row, driver’s assistance, standard 19s and standard suspension.
-Terry
GLE 350 with Premium 1, 3rd row, driver’s assistance, standard 19s and standard suspension.
-Terry
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06-07-2019, 10:40 PM
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I was wondering what kind of tires I'd be getting... they are Bridgestone Alenza run-flats...I believe their "Sport A/S" model? (19s.) Having only driven it back from the dealer (and then around town), they are not bad at all so far in terms of comfort and feel.
Also the 2.0 could definitely be described as "adequate." Would I like more power...sure, but I probably won't really need more than this for regular commuting and road trips.
-Terry
Also the 2.0 could definitely be described as "adequate." Would I like more power...sure, but I probably won't really need more than this for regular commuting and road trips.
-Terry
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06-08-2019, 02:59 PM
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Is there a way to see where the new GLE 450s are available now? As I search different dealerships, most say available on request but I can't tell where they are currently located. We ordered last November and are still waiting! We have a VIN and our sales person says it is in production.
06-08-2019, 03:44 PM
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Inventory search
Is there a way to see where the new GLE 450s are available now? As I search different dealerships, most say available on request but I can't tell where they are currently located. We ordered last November and are still waiting! We have a VIN and our sales person says it is in production.
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06-11-2019, 10:00 AM
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I'm not sure how useful/accurate this is, but if you go to https://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/inventory/ you can search by model & dealership and contact the dealer directly from the page.
06-12-2019, 01:15 PM
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Updated Dealer Order Guide 5.21.19
Here's the latest. Only change seems to be a delay in availability of the D11 Roof Spoiler. Not sure when this will quite being "Preliminary"! Data like curb weight and cargo capacity still missing even though it's been published elsewhere.
06-18-2019, 02:50 PM
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C&D Comparison with X5
Not a glowing review. To get the price up to $85k w/o AMG pkgs. it must have had E-ABC, but they don't really say anything about it. No way handling is "floppy" in Sport or Sport+. https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...enz-gle-class/
06-18-2019, 05:51 PM
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UPDATE....as of as 6/17/19 told new build date is now 6/30/19 ...another Sunday
previous Update:
Ordered 3/13/19...initial build date 6/10/19...then 6/14/19 ...today (6/3/19) it is now 6/23/19..... 6/23/19 is a Sunday....wonder if they are working 7 day weeks ???? Told by SR to be aware that it may change again...
previous Update:
Ordered 3/13/19...initial build date 6/10/19...then 6/14/19 ...today (6/3/19) it is now 6/23/19..... 6/23/19 is a Sunday....wonder if they are working 7 day weeks ???? Told by SR to be aware that it may change again...
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06-18-2019, 06:51 PM
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UPDATE....as of as 6/17/19 told new build date is now 6/30/19 ...another Sunday
previous Update:
Ordered 3/13/19...initial build date 6/10/19...then 6/14/19 ...today (6/3/19) it is now 6/23/19..... 6/23/19 is a Sunday....wonder if they are working 7 day weeks ???? Told by SR to be aware that it may change again...
previous Update:
Ordered 3/13/19...initial build date 6/10/19...then 6/14/19 ...today (6/3/19) it is now 6/23/19..... 6/23/19 is a Sunday....wonder if they are working 7 day weeks ???? Told by SR to be aware that it may change again...
06-18-2019, 10:01 PM
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2024 Mercedes GLE 63 S..... 2018 Audi SQ5
Not a glowing review. To get the price up to $85k w/o AMG pkgs. it must have had E-ABC, but they don't really say anything about it. No way handling is "floppy" in Sport or Sport+. https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...enz-gle-class/
I thought the review was unusually poor and not because I’m a fan boy. They either didn’t take time to figure out the GLE or were looking at it more like a Sports Car than a Luxury hauler....or both.
06-19-2019, 01:25 PM
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Burmester 3D
Not to be contrarian or a know-it-all, but I'm a bit of an audio geek. As speakers are mechanical structures, often comprised of stiff materials that move, they do benefit from some break in. That's been my experience anyway. That being said, it should sound a little better as you put more music through it (I often break my speakers in with continuous hours with a combination of music and white/pink noise before I really judge them), but it should not sound distorted, really. I had that system in my GLC 43, and felt meh about it. It was serviceable, but don't expect great things. It is comprised of, after all, fairly cheap asian market speakers with only the tuning done by Burmester; there are no actual Burmester components in there, or at least there wasn't on my GLC.
On my new GLE order, I sprung for the Burmester 3D at the expense of the AMG exterior package (mutually exclusive), and am hoping I didn't make a $5k+ mistake. So the take away is, for me, the base Burmester was not impressive. The lack of bass you mention should get a little better with time as the woofer is the largest mechanical moving structure in the system; it takes a little longer to loosen up. Take my opinion with a grain of salt though. Opinions on audio quality are highly subjective, and if you look at the audio system that is in my signature below on my old E63, you can see I'm probably a bit jaded. Most auto manufacturer audio systems to me are just okay, the Meridian system of Rover maybe being an outlier. It is really impressive. However, for the money you spend for the high end manufacturer systems AND its integration with the operating system of the vehicle vs. an aftermarket system, its overall value cannot be understated.
On my new GLE order, I sprung for the Burmester 3D at the expense of the AMG exterior package (mutually exclusive), and am hoping I didn't make a $5k+ mistake. So the take away is, for me, the base Burmester was not impressive. The lack of bass you mention should get a little better with time as the woofer is the largest mechanical moving structure in the system; it takes a little longer to loosen up. Take my opinion with a grain of salt though. Opinions on audio quality are highly subjective, and if you look at the audio system that is in my signature below on my old E63, you can see I'm probably a bit jaded. Most auto manufacturer audio systems to me are just okay, the Meridian system of Rover maybe being an outlier. It is really impressive. However, for the money you spend for the high end manufacturer systems AND its integration with the operating system of the vehicle vs. an aftermarket system, its overall value cannot be understated.
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06-19-2019, 02:14 PM
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Well, I was giving it a little while to break in before I made any real review (I already made my statement about speakers being mechanical structures/break in in the quoted post above). Also, please consider that I have had very nice home systems and also elaborate car systems, some competition level. But so far, I'm just kind of meh on the 3D, considering the cost; if it were half the price, or $3k or so, I'd probably be more jazzed, but it is just plain expensive. I had the lower grade Burmester (the $850 one) in my GLC, so I can compare fairly accurately. The 3D definitely plays somewhat louder, and bass also goes a little lower, although not as low as I would have expected for a separate sub/amp, although further break in may help this a bit. Overall, the regular Burmester and 3D systems have the same tonal qualities, which to me are just okay, with a somewhat exaggerated midrange. I usually tone it down somewhat with the eq. The bass does not go very low, probably useful to the 80-100Hz range (actually probably not even that low) but rolls off sharply thereafter; it would probably benefit from an aftermarket sub/amp combo. But after spending $5,400, why the need, MB? As far as the 3D processing and effects go, I don't think it is all that great, and I have just left it on the "live" option and fiddled with the eq and the VIP seating option. I feel the 3D system is similar in tonal quality to the Volvo's Bowers & Wilkins system (although the B&W has a little warmer balance), and I have not heard the Lincoln's Revel systems or BMW's systems to compare. I will say that from a manufacturer audio standpoint, to me, the standout is the Rover's Meridian system (haven't hear the Meridian in any Jag, so don't know about that). Man, that Meridian system is head and shoulder's above the other's I've heard. Even the 825 watt version has a better tonal quality than the Burmester 3D and is darn near as loud. The Reference Meridian is just in another league (and I'm not a rover fanboy; they have their problems). Of course, this is all just my opinion, and should be taken with a grain of salt.
So, the bottom line for me is that I'm not sure I would pay $5,400 for it again, but I might, just because it is somewhat better than the base Burmester. $4,550 better? Nope, but it depends on where your priorities are and how much money you want to spend on audio in your car. You can buy a whole lot of other options for that money. So, for most, I would say it is probably not worth it. If it were even a $3,000 option, yeah go for it, but it's almost five and a half grand, so the value is questionable. Is it twice as good as the base Burmester system? Not really. Then why does it cost over 6 times more? If you want more than the base Burmester and don't mind spending the money, the 3D is probably cheaper and less hassle than trying to retrofit/integrate/upgrade the base Burmester with aftermarket gear to get there. On the other hand, the front door tweeters in the sail panels and in the roof near the B-pillars are trimmed in the LED lighting package, so there's that.
So, the bottom line for me is that I'm not sure I would pay $5,400 for it again, but I might, just because it is somewhat better than the base Burmester. $4,550 better? Nope, but it depends on where your priorities are and how much money you want to spend on audio in your car. You can buy a whole lot of other options for that money. So, for most, I would say it is probably not worth it. If it were even a $3,000 option, yeah go for it, but it's almost five and a half grand, so the value is questionable. Is it twice as good as the base Burmester system? Not really. Then why does it cost over 6 times more? If you want more than the base Burmester and don't mind spending the money, the 3D is probably cheaper and less hassle than trying to retrofit/integrate/upgrade the base Burmester with aftermarket gear to get there. On the other hand, the front door tweeters in the sail panels and in the roof near the B-pillars are trimmed in the LED lighting package, so there's that.
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06-19-2019, 02:26 PM
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The base Burmester is better than any of the Bose systems I've had in my Avalanche, Tahoe or previous base Bose system in my E63. So that kind of follows my point that the base Burmester ain't bad, and that the 3D system sure as hell isn't six times better.
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06-19-2019, 02:31 PM
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I am glad to read that I made the right choice not to shell out the extra for the 3D. As I said, I'm no audiophile, so I probably wouldn't even have noticed a difference. The one thing we didn't get that I would have liked is the driver assist package. Went with the AMG Line Interior instead. We'll see if that was the right call once I finally take delivery.
06-19-2019, 02:48 PM
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If you want more than the base Burmester and don't mind spending the money, the 3D is probably cheaper and less hassle than trying to retrofit/integrate/upgrade the base Burmester with aftermarket gear to get there.
So you think to get to the level of the 3D system it is cheaper paying for the 3D system than installing aftermarket parts to the base Burmester?
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