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Old 09-12-2018, 11:04 AM
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Yes that is exactly what it should be at this price point and in this vehicle. Hopefully the wrong info was sent out initially, and you're right about the "350" badge also, that denotes the 299hp I4 from the European E350 models. Mercedes really needs to tidy up their press operation because this (if it is a mistake) is just unacceptable. Time will tell and I hope you're right. Every single "300"
badged car should be a "350" badged/engine vehicle for 2020 in the U.S. IMO.

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You're right. The new for 2019 C Class now comes standard with the 255HP I4 Turbo. Yet it remains a "300" badged car, not a 350. Since multiple sources are all suggesting the base GLE will be a 350 with the 255 I4, it would have to be a major mistake for them to all say this.
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No, all of these are the GLE with the AMG sport package nothing more. If there GLE 53 were part of this release it would be highlighted and detailed. Doesn't matter what engine is in these pics, that is why there isn't a single badge on any of them. When the GLE 53 drops you will know it.M
I agree; hope this is initially available in the US. This is what the photos are titled on the Daimler Global Media site (note the 2018!):


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You're right. The new for 2019 C Class now comes standard with the 255HP I4 Turbo. Yet it remains a "300" badged car, not a 350. Since multiple sources are all suggesting the base GLE will be a 350 with the 255 I4, it would have to be a major mistake for them to all say this.
I can say we called the E class a E300 down from the previous gen NA V6 which was a E350 and people dont like the numbers going down.. I'm sure that was the reason.. the C isnt C350 with the power increase because the C350 was a hybrid

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Old 09-12-2018, 11:21 AM
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Doesn't matter what engine is in these pics, that is why there isn't a single badge on any of them.
The video I posted today (#513) actually shows a badged GLE450:


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The video I posted today (#513) actually shows a badged GLE450:

I'm talking about the press pics. Either way the video just confirms what I just said, it isn't the GLE 53.

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Old 09-12-2018, 11:45 AM
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The video I posted today (#513) actually shows a badged GLE450.
The AMG wheels on that car are wearing Pirelli P Zero asymmetric Maximum Performance Summer 285/40-22s. Serious meat! (Also $474 apiece on The Tire Rack)



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I can say we called the E class a E300 down from the previous gen NA V6 which was a E350 and people dont like the numbers going down.. I'm sure that was the reason.. the C isnt C350 with the power increase because the C350 was a hybrid
True American market likes biggest number possible on their cars. The C isn't a C350 because it doesn't have the engine from the true 350 models IMO, it has nothing to do with a hybrid that no one buys or even knows about. When the U.S. market gets the newer I4 from the European models, you can bet that they will change the number to 350. This new GLE 350 with only 255hp is just silly.

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The GLE450 will probably be the volume car..3.0 TT V6 w/48v system... 53?.. 63 Im sure..

The E class was originally supposed to have a 295hp 4 cylinder for 2019 w/Eq boost and called a E350 before they scrapped it
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The AMG wheels on that car are wearing asymmetric 285/40-22s. Serious meat!
I was going to post that picture too but to show the AMG wheel. This is one the clues that shows that silver GLE450 has the AMG Sport Package even though wasn't mentioned in the video.
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The GLE450 will probably be the volume car..3.0 TT V6 w/48v system... 53?.. 63 Im sure..

The E class was originally supposed to have a 295hp 4 cylinder for 2019 w/Eq boost and called a E350 before they scrapped it
So far Mercedes has only mentioned the 3.0L inline six-cylinder turbo engine with EQ Boost and I hope it stays that way and not the 3.0L TT V6. This would be a deal breaker for most I think, it would be for me.
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The GLE450 will probably be the volume car..3.0 TT V6 w/48v system... 53?.. 63 Im sure..

The E class was originally supposed to have a 295hp 4 cylinder for 2019 w/Eq boost and called a E350 before they scrapped it

I6 not V6, yeah I would bet the GLE 450 would be the volume one. I detest a 4-cylinder in anything, but especially a vehicle of this size.

Do you know anything about why they decided not to go with the newer I4 for the E-Class for 2019? I mean they sent out press releases and everything, and then boom they changed it. Any idea why?

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I6 not V6, yeah I would bet the GLE 450 would be the volume one. I detest a 4-cylinder in anything, but especially a vehicle of this size.

Do you know anything about why they decided not to go with the newer I4 for the E-Class for 2019? I mean they sent out press releases and everything, and then boom they changed it. Any idea why?

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Yea its the new inline 6 sorry and single turbo w/electric compressor

Not 100% sure why they ditched the E350 upgraded engine.. but I think it came to timing, certification costs.. maybe they will do it for the refresh
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I few things I noticed about the 450 video and Moto1 pictures. A lot are just nitpicky items while I wait to see more because most of it looks good!
The 450 video does the car much more/better and I hope the US gets something similar to that. If that's the case I will have to have one in black, or maybe a GLS if MB does as great of a redesign job on it.
I think the grab handles actually turned out nice but I don't see much of a use for them since most will not drive the SUV that wildly. Them being outlined in lighting is pretty nice looking too.
It is great to have a 3rd row and I noticed that I don't think the bottoms of the 2nd row have to be flipped up first to lay the backs down now. Nice touch and they look to fold almost as flat as now.
I'm still not carzy about the 4 square vents in the middle of the dash. There just seems to many. But that fake vent at the right end of the screens looks like wasted space. That could have been a cool cubby hole for storage. Maybe someone will figure out a way to use it to mount our phones in that area.
What are the 2 buttons in the lower compartment of the drivers door? Mine has one right now and it works the trunk. Maybe the second is for one of the rear seat row releases?



Has MB moved the seat heaters to the doors now? If so or not, what are those 3 buttons on the top of the door? 1 looks to have 1 light while the other 2 have 3 lights. Since the passenger side only has 2, I'm assuming one is the seat heater, one is the seat cooler, and one is (hopefully!) to control the passenger seat?



It also looks like the got extra thigh supports! (I'm assuming the whole bottom seat slides out since there looks to be an adjustment.)
The auto start/stop button has been moved to beside the push start button so its easy to do both at start up. Hopefully now though it will not turn itself back on everytime we switch drving modes.
What are the controls behind the center "mouse style" pad in the center?
I'll study the pictures some more later!


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then earlier this year went back for the 1 day car control school. I so wish MB had something similar or at least let you pick up an ordered vehicle at Vance and get to do a factory tour. We would certainly fly down for that.
We (wife and I) did the one day school in June and it was a blast too. I've done the 2 day school many years ago and of course its better because the class is smaller and you don't share cars as much. But this time we were the first class ever to get to drive the new M5 on the track. They let us have non stop autocros style racing for about 10-15 minutes. WOW!! I highly recommend it to anyone who likes to drive. Getting to go to the Performance Center and drive their cars and then also take our car there a few times was another selling point. My wife even gets wholesalers to spoil her sometimes and they rent the track for a day and take her out there with others. I'm sure it has helped BMW sale cars so I always wondered why more manufacturers don't do it. (I think Porsche has something similar, but much smaller, near ATL airport)

Now back to the GLE discussion.
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In my E 400, the controls for heating and ventilation are as you see on the door of the new GLE. The button with one light is so you can adjust the settings for the passenger seat from your same controls you use to adjust your seat. That's pretty cool if you have a passenger who just can't figure out how to adjust their seat.
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In my E 400, the controls for heating and ventilation are as you see on the door of the new GLE. The button with one light is so you can adjust the settings for the passenger seat from your same controls you use to adjust your seat. That's pretty cool if you have a passenger who just can't figure out how to adjust their seat.
Or a wife that will not remember to push the seat forward after we go out so someone can use the back seat after her. It's a cool feature I wished I had, along with passenger seat memory.
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Or a wife that will not remember to push the seat forward after we go out so someone can use the back seat after her. It's a cool feature I wished I had, along with passenger seat memory.
On the E400, the ability to adjust the passenger seat from the driver side only comes if you buy leather seats. If you opt for MB-TEX, it's not there.
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Curious how you can "pretty much guarantee" what you suggest, when every publication is saying this about the base engine?

"The new Mercedes-Benz GLE will be launched with a variety of engine offerings for the U.S., including a 2.0L Inline-4 turbo engine for the GLE 350 and GLE 350 4MATIC that produces 255 hp and 273 lb-ft of torque."
The 350 nomenclature denotes more power than just the 255/273 motor alone and there is no chance of this being callled a GLE 350 with the exact same engine output as a C300. Also, if you look at the wording in the press release, my statement would still be accurate since it does include this engine which has this output...and a little extra. When the first order guide came out for the 2019 E Class, the E300 was replaced by the E350 which had the powertrain I mentioned. For one reason or another Mercedes backtracked and sent out a memo that this was not ready but would be the defacto engine some time in the near future. Here's a couple of screenshots of the original 2019 order guide before they amended it.



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The 350 nomenclature denotes more power than just the 255/273 motor alone and there is no chance of this being callled a GLE 350 with the exact same engine output as a C300. Also, if you look at the wording in the press release, my statement would still be accurate since it does include this engine which has this output...and a little extra. When the first order guide came out for the 2019 E Class, the E300 was replaced by the E350 which had the powertrain I mentioned. For one reason or another Mercedes backtracked and sent out a memo that this was not ready but would be the defacto engine some time in the near future. Here's a couple of screenshots of the original 2019 order guide before they amended it.



Guess we won't know until MBUSA makes an official announcement.
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In the current GLS those two buttons at the bottom of the door panel are to open the reat hatch and to open/vent the side windows between the b and c pillars.
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In my E 400, the controls for heating and ventilation are as you see on the door of the new GLE. The button with one light is so you can adjust the settings for the passenger seat from your same controls you use to adjust your seat. That's pretty cool if you have a passenger who just can't figure out how to adjust their seat.
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In the current GLS those two buttons at the bottom of the door panel are to open the reat hatch and to open/vent the side windows between the b and c pillars.
Are you saying there are vents in addition to the second row roll-down windows?


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The 350 nomenclature denotes more power than just the 255/273 motor alone and there is no chance of this being callled a GLE 350 with the exact same engine output as a C300. Also, if you look at the wording in the press release, my statement would still be accurate since it does include this engine which has this output...and a little extra. When the first order guide came out for the 2019 E Class, the E300 was replaced by the E350 which had the powertrain I mentioned. For one reason or another Mercedes backtracked and sent out a memo that this was not ready but would be the defacto engine some time in the near future. Here's a couple of screenshots of the original 2019 order guide before they amended it.
Interesting that the four uses a belt-driven starter/alternator rather than an integrated one. That's same as the Q8.
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Autoweek link: https://autoweek.com/article/paris-m...n=awdailydrive

A tidbit about another 4-cylinder difference: "While the 2.0-liter powered models fix the torque distribution at 50:50, the GLE 450 can vary the torque up to 100 percent between the axles."

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Autoweek link: https://autoweek.com/article/paris-m...n=awdailydrive

A tidbit about another 4-cylinder difference: "While the 2.0-liter powered models fix the torque distribution at 50:50, the GLE 450 can vary the torque up to 100 percent between the axles."
Good article.
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So far, the release notes on the MBUSA site are the most complete and informative I've read. There is a lot of info to digest:

https://media.mbusa.com/releases/the...cedes-benz-gle
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