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Old Oct 17, 2018 | 07:39 PM
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Towing capacity on the X5 xDrive40i (and 50i) is 6,603 lbs.
For the record, I copied that directly from BMW's web site. But more to the point, I was poking fun at their decision to go with SAV instead of SUV like the rest of the automotive world.
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Old Oct 17, 2018 | 07:41 PM
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For the record, I copied that directly from BMW's web site. But more to the point, I was poking fun at their decision to go with SAV instead of SUV like the rest of the automotive world.
I know, I was just updating the figure for the latest X5 so that there is a point of comparison to the GLE.
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Old Oct 18, 2018 | 01:30 AM
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Old Oct 19, 2018 | 02:57 PM
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Here's another video of the new BMW X7. Several things BMW did that I like and wish Mercedes would offer:
  • Traditional looking dash with separate diver and entertainment displays, both digital
  • A better looking center console, no silly grab handles (they're still a head-scratcher for me)
  • Optional captains chairs for the second row (this is a very good option and would be popular with MB buyers)
  • The mechanism to move the center seat forward to access the 3rd row is NOT a button but a lever you pull. This is smart as the button MB uses can be pressed accidentally (happened many times in my GL/GLS's)
What do you think of the new X7? Where does the MB design exceed BMW and where does it fall short?

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Old Oct 19, 2018 | 03:19 PM
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Jaguar, IMHO, also does a nice job with two digital screens as seen in this FPace Photo:

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Old Oct 19, 2018 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeMa
Here's another video of the new BMW X7. Several things BMW did that I like and wish Mercedes would offer:
  • Traditional looking dash with separate diver and entertainment displays, both digital
  • A better looking center console, no silly grab handles (they're still a head-scratcher for me)
  • Optional captains chairs for the second row (this is a very good option and would be popular with MB buyers)
  • The mechanism to move the center seat forward to access the 3rd row is NOT a button but a lever you pull. This is smart as the button MB uses can be pressed accidentally (happened many times in my GL/GLS's)
What do you think of the new X7? Where does the MB design exceed BMW and where does it fall short?
I do like the interior (except for the crystalline shift knob!). Traditional 2-screen layout may have more staying power than Mercedes approach. Captains chairs are nice - heck, I'd even choose those for the GLE. Giant grille is following current trend, but not a fan.
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Old Oct 19, 2018 | 04:39 PM
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Jaguar, IMHO, also does a nice job with two digital screens as seen in this FPace Photo:
I think mounting the center screen higher to be closer to the driver's field of view is better.
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Old Oct 19, 2018 | 06:18 PM
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I think mounting the center screen higher to be closer to the driver's field of view is better.
I agree! There’s more tech and more chance for distracted driving now. The dual screen layout by M may be a little Polarizing but it’s also different in a good way. It’s closer and easier to view by the driver. Personally I think it’s going to be a plus! Now for a DOG.....
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Old Oct 19, 2018 | 07:11 PM
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I think mounting the center screen higher to be closer to the driver's field of view is better.
Good observation. In fact, a number of manufacturers were focused on getting the center screen to eye-level in recent years for safety. The spy photos of the next-gen S Class seem to suggest MB may be splitting the screens once again. We'll see as more is revealed about the new S.
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Old Oct 20, 2018 | 12:10 PM
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dig display center will probably be an option like the E class.. I bet analog gauges are standard in the non AMG variants
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Old Oct 20, 2018 | 12:13 PM
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dig display center will probably be an option like the E class.. I bet analog gauges are standard in the non AMG variants
Nope, all GLE models get the same digital widescreen display.
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Old Oct 20, 2018 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeMa

Nope, all GLE models get the same digital widescreen display.
Oh MBUX.. duh..sorry, need coffee

that system looks amazing though.. I had to do a training on it last week...
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Old Oct 20, 2018 | 01:28 PM
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Since the wheelbase increased, has anyone seen new towing numbers are have I missed it?
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I can't find the link now but I read somewhere that towing is 7500lbs with some engine/suspension setups.
Canadian Product Profile lists towing capability for the GLE450 at 3,500 kg = 7,716 lb. That is for the European folding style hitch, but I imagine US will get the receiver type, though that shouldn't affect capacity.
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Old Oct 20, 2018 | 01:37 PM
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I had to do a training on it last week...
Did MB provide a mock MBUX system for training? If not, how did you do the training?
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Old Oct 20, 2018 | 03:35 PM
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Mercedes apparently built quite a few 2019 GLE 400's. The Mercedes dealer in Las Vegas has 30 units with 5 of those still in transit. There is another large dealer in nearby Henderson with a bunch also! One could assume that the 2020 GLE is or will soon be in full production mode. If dealer orders stopped a few weeks ago then the 2019 build should be done this month.
Just at a glance it seems that the new engine loses EPA fuel efficiency a little over the old engine rather than show improvement.

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Dealer near me has 19 2019s listed on their website, but over twice that in 2018s. I expect (hope) we’ll see the 2020 DOG early next month.

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I don’t know where you get these videos Joe but keep them coming. Helps pass the time waiting! He gave an objective review, IMO. I’ve never had a white vehicle but really like the look of the one in the video.
I just had a large dealer tell me today that it’s still March for the on sale date-maybe a little earlier for orders. Apparently there is a large inventory of 18’s & 19’s remaining. On the other hand they might not want to admit to an earlier date until they sell down existing inventory.
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I don’t know where you get these videos Joe but keep them coming. Helps pass the time waiting! He gave an objective review, IMO. I’ve never had a white vehicle but really like the look of the one in the video.
I just had a large dealer tell me today that it’s still March for the on sale date-maybe a little earlier for orders. Apparently there is a large inventory of 18’s & 19’s remaining. On the other hand they might not want to admit to an earlier date until they sell down existing inventory.
I think your last point is probably correct. My dealer is showing (59) 2018s and (19) 2019s in stock on their website, and another has (22) 2018s and (10) 2019s. I think the sales managers will have their people push current inventory first, obviously. I'm wondering if dealers will get a batch of pre-configured launch vehicles before special orders. That's sometimes the case.
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Are you thinking along the lines of an Edition 1 GLE? Did MB offer an Edition 1 (or similar package) ML when it first launched?
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Are you thinking along the lines of an Edition 1 GLE? Did MB offer an Edition 1 (or similar package) ML when it first launched?
That would be neat to have a special Edition, Just thinking logically if there’s no DOG and they are building them...they must be preconfigured builds by M.B. The domestics seem to offer more dealer input at initial production within limits. At least on two German cars I know the dealer got an initial allocation to select from already built vehicles. I’m not sure how that allocation actually worked.
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Found some spy shots of the GLE AMG 63:
Wonder if the exhaust outlets are fake?!
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