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I don't think you've actually been able to place an order, since the car is not released yet - what does your dealer tell you as far as when orders will be accepted?
I watched several reviews of the new X5 and a few things stood out to me. The digital display (in front of the driver) has the tach on the right but the dial runs counter-clockwise, odd. And the overall appears of their digital displays is a bit underwhelming compared to MBUX. Leg room in the 2nd row of the X5 looks a bit cramped. Several reviewers commented that the ride is still on the stiff side when in Comfort mode. And finally, the split rear hatch doors, I just don't get why BMW can't let go of this design. On the plus side, the X5 is a beautiful looking SUV and current X5 owners will no doubt embrace it. But I expect that in fair and unbiased comparisons of both new SUV's, the GLE will top the X5 in several important areas to me. Higher tech, more fuel efficient I6 engine, easier to use tech (MBUX), roomier 2nd row seating, and a more comfortable ride.
Here is another detailed video review about 2020 GLE, which is crazy because 2019 model isn't even out yet... But I like it's a little bigger and has 3rd row - I may even consider to replace my GLS. The feature where this car jumps out of the sand is very cool...
I ... And finally, the split rear hatch doors, I just don't get why BMW can't let go of this design.
The split rear hatch does have one advantage I could use on occasion - the ability to carry long items, (e.g. lumber) sticking out the back w/o putting on the roof racks.
...Higher tech, more fuel efficient I6 engine, easier to use tech (MBUX), roomier 2nd row seating, and a more comfortable ride.
Well, BMW has always had straight-sixes and we don’t know about fuel economy yet.
Overall I agree with you with the likely better ride being another advantage.
Of course my likes and dislikes are of no value to anyone but me, but the new X5 just doesn't check the right boxes. It's a looker to be sure but falls a little short in some key areas.
Of course my likes and dislikes are of no value to anyone but me, but the new X5 just doesn't check the right boxes. It's a looker to be sure but falls a little short in some key areas.
Another thing that struck me was the fact that BMW doesn’t have the tech package done yet. It’s supposed to be upgrade ready for the future system. That means that we have no ability to evaluate it in advance.
Double Post....
Very impressive changes coming to several models. The AMG package is very impressive. I have never owned a white car but liked the white GLE a lot!
MBUX needs work to catch up to the Google Assistant. Looked to do the basics but lacking in search functions. The ability to control some vehicle functions with voice will potentially enhance safety.
I wonder if there will be test drives for the Press. It will be interesting to learn more about how well the rest of the safety systems actually work.
I enjoy the Thomas/Autogefühl teams reviews and find them to be fair and impartial. The glitch with the nav directions in this video may be due to the locations he requested or perhaps his German accent. We should know a lot more when the GLE is driven and reviewed by several US teams.
I enjoy the Thomas/Autogefühl teams reviews and find them to be fair and impartial. The glitch with the nav directions in this video may be due to the locations he requested or perhaps his German accent. We should know a lot more when the GLE is driven and reviewed by several US teams.
A German Car vs German accent....wouldn’t that be ironic?
Thomas was using Commands that Google Assistant would easily handle. I’ve even done the Nav Command using an individual name with frequent success. If there are more than one it lists the options. But there is a huge data base and A.I. driving the Google system that has taken years to develope. It’s wouldn’t be surprising if the GLE system isn’t as good. Audi went all in with Android-they have an Android based operating system now. BMW, Mercedes & Toyota don’t want to cede control or perceived control so time will tell! We don’t need an Apple or Google monopoly so competition is good.
If Android Auto in Mercedes works like it does in Audi it won’t be an issue anyway. I can long press voice and that opens AA with some/most of the Google Assistant capabilities. I assume Car Play is similar.
A German Car vs German accent....wouldn’t that be ironic?
Thomas was using Commands that Google Assistant would easily handle. I’ve even done the Nav Command using an individual name with frequent success. If there are more than one it lists the options. But there is a huge data base and A.I. driving the Google system that has taken years to develope. It’s wouldn’t be surprising if the GLE system isn’t as good. Audi went all in with Android-they have an Android based operating system now. BMW, Mercedes & Toyota don’t want to cede control or perceived control so time will tell! We don’t need an Apple or Google monopoly so competition is good.
If Android Auto in Mercedes works like it does in Audi it won’t be an issue anyway. I can long press voice and that opens AA with some/most of the Google Assistant capabilities. I assume Car Play is similar.
MBUX is much more advanced system with 3D HD, touch and motion user interface designed for the car... than childish cartoon-like graphics of Android Auto or Apple Carplay. If you use Radio, Media, GPS Navigation with real traffic, telephone or even other features like controlling climate control, heated seats etc... MBUX is much more serious technology. The only missing part is like you said - the full power of Google search, but if you want to ask any question your AA, you can easily do it by simply using the Voice control button. So it's not missing and always available in the car, but how often do you search Google for answers when driving? For everything else MBUX is a lot friendlier, fully integrated and much easier to use.
Me too, in fact, the white GLE 450 they unveiled would look nice sitting in our garage. The plugin hybrid they mentioned is a configuration I would like to see as well. Can't wait to see and drive the new GLE.
MBUX is much more advanced system with 3D HD, touch and motion user interface designed for the car... than childish cartoon-like graphics of Android Auto or Apple Carplay. If you use Radio, Media, GPS Navigation with real traffic, telephone or even other features like controlling climate control, heated seats etc... MBUX is much more serious technology. The only missing part is like you said - the full power of Google search, but if you want to ask any question your AA, you can easily do it by simply using the Voice control button. So it's not missing and always available in the car, but how often do you search Google for answers when driving? For everything else MBUX is a lot friendlier, fully integrated and much easier to use.
I wasn’t running down MBUX or comparing it to Android Auto but responding to the glitches in the review by Thomas of Autofugal at the Paris Auto Show. Joe commented that it might be the accent or the locations. Those glitches occurred when he tried to navigate by name direction to the local Mercedes Dealer. You have pretty much summarized my response to that specific issue so I’m not sure what point you were making.
MBUX appears to be a game changer...if...it all works as advertised.
I wasn’t running down MBUX or comparing it to Android Auto but responding to the glitches in the review by Thomas of Autofugal at the Paris Auto Show. Joe commented that it might be the accent or the locations. Those glitches occurred when he tried to navigate by name direction to the local Mercedes Dealer. You have pretty much summarized my response to that specific issue so I’m not sure what point you were making.
MBUX appears to be a game changer...if...it all works as advertised.
According to Mercedes, MBUX will be able to learn from the driver’s inputs. “A unique feature of MBUX - Mercedes-Benz User Experience is its learning capability thanks to artificial intelligence. With its predictive functions, MBUX for example, anticipates what the user would like next. For instance, anyone who often telephones with their mother on Tuesdays during the journey home will receive her telephone number as a suggestion in the display on this day of the week. Anyone who regularly switches over to a radio station with news at a certain time receives this as a suggestion.”
I also believe over the air updates can be pushed out. So, hopefully, the system will improve with use and time.
According to Mercedes, MBUX will be able to learn from the driver’s inputs. “A unique feature of MBUX - Mercedes-Benz User Experience is its learning capability thanks to artificial intelligence. With its predictive functions, MBUX for example, anticipates what the user would like next. For instance, anyone who often telephones with their mother on Tuesdays during the journey home will receive her telephone number as a suggestion in the display on this day of the week. Anyone who regularly switches over to a radio station with news at a certain time receives this as a suggestion.”
I also believe over the air updates can be pushed out. So, hopefully, the system will improve with use and time.
You are right-that is using a form of A.I. but to be honest I’m not sure how it will be useful. I’m sure it will but just can’t visualize it.
The A.I. that I find useful is what’s driving Google Assistant. For example-Hey Mercedes I’m hungry will bring up a list of restaurants near you-likely those embedded in the Nav map. With Hey Google I can narrow it to a buffet, Arby’s, Steakhouse, etc. Or I might want to search for a truck stop to gas & get a quick sandwich or beverage. Since this is data stored on the cloud the depth of data is almost unlimited. it takes a large data base, internet access and powerful A.I. to bring that together. The ability to do a search by using just a name or business type is very useful to me and reduces distraction while driving.
My Audi has beautiful Google Satelite View maps as an option but when traveling I prefer the basic Android Auto Nav where I can switch to Waze in congested areas. The maps are always up to date and it just works!
Maybe Mercedes will surprise me but if not it won’t be an issue as long as I can switch to AA. My original point was that the Command Thomas gave asking MBUX to Nav to the Mercedes Dealer is all you need in Android Auto. If there are 3 nearby it will list them so you can choose!
09-24-2018, 11:15 AM
