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I enjoy the Thomas/Autogefühl teams reviews and find them to be fair and impartial.
Sad to hear the “exhaust outlets” in the rear bumper are fake - I hate sh*t like that. At least it’s not neutered like my 12 ML which has no sign that it’s internal combustion!

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I enjoy the Thomas/Autogefühl teams reviews and find them to be fair and impartial. /QUOTE]
Sad to hear the “exhaust outlets” in the rear bumper are fake - I hate sh*t like that. At least it’s not neutered like my 12 ML which has no sign that it’s internal combustion!
Look at it this way. At least one won't ever need to clean carbon buildup off the fake outlets!
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I enjoy the Thomas/Autogefühl teams reviews and find them to be fair and impartial. /QUOTE]
Sad to hear the “exhaust outlets” in the rear bumper are fake - I hate sh*t like that. At least it’s not neutered like my 12 ML which has no sign that it’s internal combustion!
I found this cringe worthy top...

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Look at it this way. At least one won't ever need to clean carbon buildup off the fake outlets!

and in cold weather the exhaust be seen coming from under the bumper rather than from the outlets. 90% of people wouldn’t notice, but I would, and it bugs me!

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and in cold weather the exhaust be seen coming from under the bumper rather than from the outlets. 90% of people wouldn’t notice, but I would, and it bugs me!

Originally Posted by rbrylaw View Post
See, yet another advantage to living in the land of perpetual summer - Florida! We rarely get to see exhaust from cold weather. I haven't even looked to see if the exhaust pipes are connected to the exhaust tips on my E. I'll have to look.

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See, yet another advantage to living in the land of perpetual summer - Florida! We rarely get to see exhaust from cold weather. I haven't even looked to see if the exhaust pipes are connected to the exhaust tips on my E. I'll have to look.

Yeah, if you can find your car after the latest hurrIcane! 💨
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I enjoy the Thomas/Autogefühl teams reviews and find them to be fair and impartial. /QUOTE]
Sad to hear the “exhaust outlets” in the rear bumper are fake - I hate sh*t like that. At least it’s not neutered like my 12 ML which has no sign that it’s internal combustion!
Audi did this with the 18 Q5 & SQ5. A lot of complaints, some faithful refused to buy because of it. Some spent close to $3000 for aftermkt fix. I wonder why the change? Doubt they care about cleaning or cost savings....maybe fixing both ends results in rattles or stress issues? I don’t like it either but can live with it. Mercedes did a better job than Audi of making the fakes look real!
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Does anyone know if the exhaust system is single or dual? The new inline six engine would have a single exhaust manifold so I would think it's a single exhaust design. I understand MB could split it into two separate exhaust runs but I'm guessing it's a single exhaust. The video only shows the right tail pipe and to me it appears to be a single system, thus the fake bumper outlets. Just a guess on my part.
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Audi did this with the 18 Q5 & SQ5. A lot of complaints, some faithful refused to buy because of it. Some spent close to $3000 for aftermkt fix. I wonder why the change? Doubt they care about cleaning or cost savings....maybe fixing both ends results in rattles or stress issues? I don’t like it either but can live with it. Mercedes did a better job than Audi of making the fakes look real!
I would not expect a fake exhaust from a S vehicle. That would really **** me off. I am put off by the fake exhaust on the GLE in itself, I dont understand the need for this. But I would never expect an AMG vehicle to have a fake exhaust. Never.

Here is a 2018 GLC with a fake exhaust, at least the GLE was done better I think:



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Here is a 2018 GLC with a fake exhaust


Regardless of the fake exhaust tips, do you know if the GLC has single or dual exhaust (from the engine back)?
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Regardless of the fake exhaust tips, do you know if the GLC has single or dual exhaust (from the engine back)?
I am not sure. Got this picture from the internet.
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and in cold weather the exhaust be seen coming from under the bumper rather than from the outlets. 90% of people wouldn’t notice, but I would, and it bugs me!
At least they are consistent - fake exhaust outlets go with fake air vents flanking the MBUX screens!
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Regardless of the fake exhaust tips, do you know if the GLC has single or dual exhaust (from the engine back)?
If I remember correctly the video from Autogefuel showed a right exhaust and Turko’s GLC a left so.....probably duals!
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If I remember correctly the video from Autogefuel showed a right exhaust and Turko a left so.....duals!
Well, there is a single muffler, obvious from the rear view. May have two outlets from the muffler but no advantage for dual exhaust pipes upstream unless for packaging.


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Well, there is a single muffler, obvious from the rear view. May have two outlets from the muffler but no advantage for dual exhaust pipes upstream unless for packaging.


My SQ 5 has duals with a muffler on each side. The two advantages to splitting at the engine are 1. Less back pressure, better savaging with less cylinders into on exhaust, for more power and dual mufflers enhance that. 2. Noise and vibration moved back.

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Greg, I see what you are thinking from the rear pic. I think that's a shield not the actual exhaust. I thought the video pic was of a smaller raw one but could have just assumed it was smaller. Sorry for my confusion. Looking at this on my phone doesn't work so good.
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Since we're spit-balling here, looks like a single exhaust pipe coming from the engine:

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Greg, I see what you are thinking from the rear pic. I think that's a shield not the actual exhaust. I thought the video pic was of a smaller raw one but could have just assumed it was smaller. Sorry for my confusion. Looking at this on my phone doesn't work so good.
It is the exhaust can. Revised to show both sides - Thanks, turko.







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For those wondering about the exhaust it now seems to me is a double exhaust. On the autogefuhl video the bottom exhaust was shown on the right side. Here is a video of shmee who ducks down towards the left to show us the exhaust:


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This thing is incredible, who cares about the exhaust.
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See, yet another advantage to living in the land of perpetual summer - Florida! We rarely get to see exhaust from cold weather. I haven't even looked to see if the exhaust pipes are connected to the exhaust tips on my E. I'll have to look.
I checked my E400 (soon to become an E450) and the exhaust isn't fake. It's tied into the exhaust tips.
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This thing is incredible, who cares about the exhaust.
Well, we're a little desperate for real specs!
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If you are bored waiting for info here's an Autogefuhl review of the new X5 and Q8:
X 5-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTZsiq2nWxA
Q 8-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwKJTg7eP6c&vl=en
Edit: Thomas left out a lot of salient points on the Audi. It has valet parking-exit car and it will park itself and the opposite; Level 3 self driving that will be disabled initially in the US (laws); The autonomous city driving mode has been available in some Audi’s since early 2017 at speeds up to 37mph; “Porsche like” handling characteristics (torque vectoring, etc.) aren’t new but worth a mention. As I recall the Q8 has 4 Lidar/Radar sensors and 8 cameras. While Level 3 will be disabled there’s a good probability that individuals will be able to enable it with existing OBD tools.
For me the X5 seems behind the curve and has a lot of catching up to match the GLE 450. The Audi touch screens will be “fingerprint ugly”, concerns about frameless window practicality and the tech needs a lot more eval.

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If you are bored waiting for info here's an Autogefuhl review of the new X5 and Q8:
X 5-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTZsiq2nWxA
Q 8-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwKJTg7eP6c&vl=en
Edit: Thomas left out a lot of salient points on the Audi. It has valet parking-exit car and it will park itself and the opposite; Level 3 self driving that will be disabled initially in the US (laws); The autonomous city driving mode has been available in some Audi’s since early 2017 at speeds up to 37mph; “Porsche like” handling characteristics (torque vectoring, etc.) aren’t new but worth a mention. As I recall the Q8 has 4 Lidar/Radar sensors and 8 cameras. While Level 3 will be disabled there’s a good probability that individuals will be able to enable it with existing OBD tools.
For me the X5 seems behind the curve and has a lot of catching up to match the GLE 450. The Audi touch screens will be “fingerprint ugly”, concerns about frameless window practicality and the tech needs a lot more eval.
I like the Audi - I suspect it will be much more expensive than the GLE when comparably equipped - the coupes always are.
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