2020 V167 GLE
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Thanks for the post. This guys reviews are not very helpful, he's a bit of a scatter-brain. Looking forward to more serious reviews.
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A couple of questions for the regulars here:
- Thoughts on the merits of leather versus MB-Tex versus leather on an ordered 450? My Audi is upholstered in alcantara with only the side bolsters being actual leather. Curious about long term wear & tear, performance in summer & winter, and obviously aesthetics as well. We do have two kids in elementary school, if its a consideration. Just looking for general opinions.
- E-Active Body Control? Looks like a lot of pertinent information is going to be embargoed until the 21st, but I'm still trying to understand why would I want to spend $8K on it?
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A couple of questions for the regulars here:
- Thoughts on the merits of leather versus MB-Tex versus leather on an ordered 450? My Audi is upholstered in alcantara with only the side bolsters being actual leather. Curious about long term wear & tear, performance in summer & winter, and obviously aesthetics as well. We do have two kids in elementary school, if its a consideration. Just looking for general opinions.
- E-Active Body Control? Looks like a lot of pertinent information is going to be embargoed until the 21st, but I'm still trying to understand why would I want to spend $8K on it?
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The review did showcase the smart phone search vs the more limited capability of MBUX. It’s a great system for a car but there will probably be some disappointment from those with smartphone expectations!
For those that follow CR....December Consumer Reports Auto Reliability section: Mercedes is ranked 17th overall with an average rating of 47-highest Lexus 78 & low is Volvo at 22. The GLS was the highest rated Mercedes & E class the lowest. Audi 7th at 60 & BMW 8th at 58. GLE 52; Q7 66; F Pace 20.
Reliability is only one factor and some is subjective rating trivial vs major issues. Getting behind the numbers is more difficult but a specific vehicle review usually highlights the kind of issues in more detail.
My mail has a CR questionnaire for our 2018 SQ5 so that must be one source of info. Personally I use CR as one source of info. Professional reviews and “hands on” personally are still the most important IMO.
For those that follow CR....December Consumer Reports Auto Reliability section: Mercedes is ranked 17th overall with an average rating of 47-highest Lexus 78 & low is Volvo at 22. The GLS was the highest rated Mercedes & E class the lowest. Audi 7th at 60 & BMW 8th at 58. GLE 52; Q7 66; F Pace 20.
Reliability is only one factor and some is subjective rating trivial vs major issues. Getting behind the numbers is more difficult but a specific vehicle review usually highlights the kind of issues in more detail.
My mail has a CR questionnaire for our 2018 SQ5 so that must be one source of info. Personally I use CR as one source of info. Professional reviews and “hands on” personally are still the most important IMO.
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I'm sure they would place an order for you if you asked. You can bet base price on the 450 will be under $60k, and most options are priced. Are you going to replace the GLA?
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[QUOTE=GregW / Oregon;7597563]Placed an official order today, first 2020 at my dealer.
Might be one of the first retail orders in the US. We will all be envious when you get it. Doesn’t look like you missed many options.
Might be one of the first retail orders in the US. We will all be envious when you get it. Doesn’t look like you missed many options.
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Greg Almost identical to my build but I have some questions.
Your order shows the Burmeister as a line item but it’s included in the DP1 package. Is that with no charge?
Did you consider the Acoustic Comfort Dc5. Pros vs cons? I had that in my build.
i also added traffic signs but maybe it’s included in another package need to double check.
Is this model going to have the performance brakes with all the dust?
Edit-am I correct in assuming the the 21” AMG tires are still All Seasons?
Am I correct in assuming that functional exhaust for the AMG pkg means no fake exhaust outlets?
Your order shows the Burmeister as a line item but it’s included in the DP1 package. Is that with no charge?
Did you consider the Acoustic Comfort Dc5. Pros vs cons? I had that in my build.
i also added traffic signs but maybe it’s included in another package need to double check.
Is this model going to have the performance brakes with all the dust?
Edit-am I correct in assuming the the 21” AMG tires are still All Seasons?
Am I correct in assuming that functional exhaust for the AMG pkg means no fake exhaust outlets?
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I don't know why that shows up as a "Accesories" item. Yes it is included in the Premium package and should be at no cost. 811 High-End system is at considerable extra cost.
Did you consider the Acoustic Comfort DC5. Pros vs cons? I had that in my build.
I also added traffic signs but maybe it’s included in another package need to double check.
Is this model going to have the performance brakes with all the dust?
I correct in assuming the the 21” AMG tires are still All Seasons?
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I agree with Scorpio555 that the upholstery color option suck big time. Black, brown & beige? Where is at least a saddle tan, or a muted red? Here is the red in my M4; this would be killer in the GLE:
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The 513 Traffic Sign Assist is included in the DA2 Driver Assistance Package PLUS. I may be up in years, but I still like to drive and not be driven - I did not opt for this. I admit to taking many speed limit signs as a "suggestion."
I agree and the DAP will likely go berserk in some circumstances. My truck gets upset on some curves where a car is facing stopped on a side street so it looks like we are going to collide.
Traffic signs are also a stand-alone option. I really like that in my Audi. It’s displayed in the HUD next to actual speed and I have it set to blink when I get 10 mph over. It’s saved me a ticket a few times. The map also shows speed limits so redundant but the map display is not “handy” and can be out of date. I will probably order signs unless Benz does a good job with the map info. Hard to know until we get a look.
I agree and the DAP will likely go berserk in some circumstances. My truck gets upset on some curves where a car is facing stopped on a side street so it looks like we are going to collide.
Traffic signs are also a stand-alone option. I really like that in my Audi. It’s displayed in the HUD next to actual speed and I have it set to blink when I get 10 mph over. It’s saved me a ticket a few times. The map also shows speed limits so redundant but the map display is not “handy” and can be out of date. I will probably order signs unless Benz does a good job with the map info. Hard to know until we get a look.
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Any advice on how to negotiate pricing on an early order? Is 6% off MSRP in the ball park? If I order there are 4 available dealers for me to work with & I have no history with them. My first Mercedes so no loyalty discount!
Some states like Oregon require a refundable deposit and some dealers will order without a deposit but I will likely be committed once I order.
Some states like Oregon require a refundable deposit and some dealers will order without a deposit but I will likely be committed once I order.
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I will give my dealer a call today. Yes, we need a bigger SUV which can put a trailer. From the preliminary DOG, looks its can easily cost me 80k for the new GLE.
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Any advice on how to negotiate pricing on an early order? Is 6% off MSRP in the ball park? If I order there are 4 available dealers for me to work with & I have no history with them. My first Mercedes so no loyalty discount!
Some states like Oregon require a refundable deposit and some dealers will order without a deposit but I will likely be committed once I order.
Some states like Oregon require a refundable deposit and some dealers will order without a deposit but I will likely be committed once I order.
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Any advice on how to negotiate pricing on an early order? Is 6% off MSRP in the ball park? If I order there are 4 available dealers for me to work with & I have no history with them. My first Mercedes so no loyalty discount!
Some states like Oregon require a refundable deposit and some dealers will order without a deposit but I will likely be committed once I order.
Some states like Oregon require a refundable deposit and some dealers will order without a deposit but I will likely be committed once I order.
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How much can you spend?
Avoid E-ABC and Burmeister 3D and you can easily keep it under that, but yes, you could get a 450 up to near $100k if you tried. Just for grins I tried for near maximum spec on my spreadsheet, taking some educated guesses on things not priced yet. See attached.
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If you're trading a car the promised discount is subjective. Most if not all dealers offer wholesale pricing for your trade-in. This gives them room to negotiate the selling price of the new car. I normally offer to buy their car at invoice if I'm trading a car and they offer me wholesale on my car. I figure if they want my car at wholesale, invoice for their car is a fair starting point. And I always ask to see the invoice price on paper. I always know what my trade is worth ahead of time and allow them to make me an offer. So if Greg's info of a 5% markup is accurate, that's the discount I'll be aiming for with my trade.
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