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Old 11-08-2018, 10:17 AM
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On the german configurator site there was an option for the AMG line interior package. Was this not offered? Or is it packaged with the AMG exterior option?
It is offered, but that limits you to black upholstery and no heated steering wheel. After learning the Espresso Brown/Magma Grey is not a two-tone seat, I will be changing my spec to that today. See the preliminary DOG & my updated spreadsheet (attached) for all the US options.

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So is this photo accurate for the Espresso Brown/Magmagrey option?



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So is this photo accurate for the Espresso Brown/Magmagrey option?.
My sales guy checked with MBUSA and that is what he was told. Also, it's the same on the German configurator and catalog. Is not consistent with the nomenclature for the two-tone seat options like Black/Tartufo & Black/White nor does it match the photos on the Daimler Media website.
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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon View Post
My sales guy checked with MBUSA and that is what he was told. Also, it's the same on the German configurator and catalog. Is not consistent with the nomenclature for the two-tone seat options like Black/Tartufo & Black/White nor does it match the photos on the Daimler Media website.
So which interior will you be ordering?


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So which interior will you be ordering?.
601 Black MB-Tex w/ DINAMICA inserts. I had this in my '06 and liked it. One downside is you cant get seat ventilation with it (and of course no leather smell). Trying not go over $80k.


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601 Black MB-Tex w/ DINAMICA inserts. I had this in my '06 and liked it. One downside is you cant get seat ventilation with it (and of course no leather smell). Trying not go over $80k.
Beautiful looking seats. I like the 885A White/ Black Nappa leather seats but my wife doesn't care for black seats. I also like the 958A Black/ Magmagrey Exclusive Nappa leather seats but again, the wife. I'd consider a black GLE with the 885A interior if she'd be willing to give a go. But we'll most likely go with designo Diamond White with a 204A Espresso Brown/ Magmagrey interior. We have the designo Expresso Brown interior in our GLS and she loves it.


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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon View Post
Avoid E-ABC and Burmeister 3D and you can easily keep it under that, but yes, you could get a 450 up to near $100k if you tried. Just for grins I tried for near maximum spec on my spreadsheet, taking some educated guesses on things not priced yet. See attached.
Thanks for the spreadsheet. I do want E-ABC, before i got S63, i tried S560 with MBC, its dose a amazing job. The way i want without MBUX technology pack and energizng pack already 81k. After those two pack, high likely hit 85k, which about 1,150 dollars per month for leasing.
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Thanks for the spreadsheet. I do want E-ABC, before i got S63, i tried S560 with MBC, its dose a amazing job.
No doubt it will be a great system. My only worry is fixing the damn thing out of warranty (I tend to keep my cars a full model cycle) - not a worry if you're leasing.
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That is very good point. and Mercedes have a really bad Parts-to-Whole Price Ratio. Maybe wait for some reviews or just avoid it.
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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon View Post
601 Black MB-Tex w/ DINAMICA inserts. I had this in my '06 and liked it. One downside is you cant get seat ventilation with it (and of course no leather smell). Trying not go over $80k.

These are the standard for the AMG interior, correct? What is DINAMICA? Is that MB talk for alcantara? Looks good either way.

Greg on your spreadsheet what is the DB0PKG for $1,050?

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Dealer cost is a complicated figure and varies with incentives. There are always sales incentives that vary by dealer and manufacturer. The actual dealer cost on a Luxury car should be at least 12-15%. Invoice used to be in the 12% range but was halved to 5-6% to help the dealer with margins. Some dealers base the salesman's commission on how much he gets over invoice. Depending on a lot of things like Allocation, Trade allowance and of course new model intro.... it's hard to judge. Since I don't have a relationship I will get a proposal from several.
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Curious how this crowd perceives the competition from the other Germans, specifically the G05 X5 and MKII Q7.

I'm not sure what to expect of this GLE and it's hard for me to handicap it to what I see as its closest competitors. Currently I think I would lean towards the Audi versus the BMW, but the new GLE is an unknown quantity for me, and I'm unsure if I should wait for it or not.

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These are the standard for the AMG interior, correct? What is DINAMICA? Is that MB talk for alcantara?
Yes, Dinamica is an Italian synthetic suede, and it standard (no extra cost) with the AMG Line Interior: Dinamica
Looks good either way.Greg on your spreadsheet what is the DB0PKG for $1,050?


Must for the Snow Belt, I'd say. Following translated from German:

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That is very good point. and Mercedes have a really bad Parts-to-Whole Price Ratio. Maybe wait for some reviews or just avoid it.
I will be anxious for reviews, but that won't tell durability. May be a good candidate for extended warranty, which I've never done before. I have found Mercedes to be good about out-of-warranty goodwill assistance within the first year or so after.
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I will be anxious for reviews, but that won't tell durability. May be a good candidate for extended warranty, which I've never done before. I have found Mercedes to be good about out-of-warranty goodwill assistance within the first year or so after.
So far, Max official warranty is 5 year. and normal Airmatic dose have good life time. but i dont know how the E-ABC. usually first model year always have small problems and manufacture fix and improve in next model year.
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Curious how this crowd perceives the competition from the other Germans, specifically the G05 X5 and MKII Q7.

I'm not sure what to expect of this GLE and it's hard for me to handicap it to what I see as its closest competitors. Currently I think I would lean towards the Audi versus the BMW, but the new GLE is an unknown quantity for me, and I'm unsure if I should wait for it or not.
I am a BMW guy for cars, since my first new 2002 in 1973. Now on my third M3/M4. However, since Mercedes came out with the ML in 1997 I've had the first of each new model of it. For us they've always just had the right combination of utility, luxury & sportiness. The new X5 I'd say does not have a powertrain to match the 450, and certainly no suspension as innovative as E-ABC. Looks is personal. Then there's the runflats issue (for me). I think, similarly equipped it will be a few thousand more than the GLE.

I have no Audi experience, but looking at the Q7 it's a similar size, but down 44 hp compared to the 450. Same as X5 in terms of engine & suspension technology. Options are a little more limited (no 21" wheels with air suspension). and I get the sense it is a little more expensive, but hard to do an apples-apples comparison. Plus it's been out for 3 years now, I believe.

It all comes down to personal wants, likes & needs and you just have to compare as best you can, which is tough with the GLE not being out yet. I'm guessing they will do a tour of dealers with demo models of the GLE sometime in the next month or so.

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Curious how this crowd perceives the competition from the other Germans, specifically the G05 X5 and MKII Q7.
I'm not sure what to expect of this GLE and it's hard for me to handicap it to what I see as its closest competitors. Currently I think I would lean towards the Audi versus the BMW, but the new GLE is an unknown quantity for me, and I'm unsure if I should wait for it or not.
Another one to consider is the Q8... I spent some time with one today and have now decided to buy the GLE 450. I was leaning that way but wanted to be sure. The Audi is beautiful and has some unique features. It would be a better choice than the Q7 unless you needed the 3rd row. It actually reminds me of our SQ5 but with more Luxury, super tech and a little larger. It still has the tiny cup holders. The exterior profile from a distance looks a lot like the Q7. I was told that itís an inch wider and an inch shorter. I just donít get the Coupe designation. The cargo area appears a lot smaller than the 7, maybe more room in the front and rear seating area. . The front and rear are roomy with good head room. A tall person might have to duck their head to enter. The base model is plain compared to the SLine. Itís also more expensive for what you get unless the Frameless windows, Level 3 self driving and Matrix headlights are important to you. I didnít spend much time with the 3 screens but they seem to be fast and well integrated. A touch pad like the GLE would have been nice to reduce fingerprints. The Matrix & Level 3 are not activated in the US pending approvals but the hardware is there ready for future activation.
The X5 is nice but would be my 3rd choice. Good luck, most of us could be happy with all the choices.
If you will own the car for a few years whatís 2-3 months to get what you want without possible ďbuyers remorse laterĒ. I was going to wait until I could get some seat time in the GLE but probably wonít.
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The cargo area appears a lot smaller than the 7, maybe more room in the front and rear seating area.
Q7 cargo capacity is 18% more than Q8:

Q8 - 60.7 cf
Q7 - 71.6 cf
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Q7 cargo capacity is 18% more than Q8:

Q8 - 60.7 cf
Q7 - 71.6 cf
X5 - 72.3 cf
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If the 8 is an inch wider and an inch shorter there must be more passenger room. The very slight difference in roof slope wouldn’t make any where near that much dif. In the 7 you can easily put golf clubs the long way. In the 8 it would be a tighter fit.
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iím ready for a new iPad I have to keep editing for missing letters. The touch screen is losing itís touch!
I have a new iPad Pro coming next week. Looks impressive.
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Beautiful looking seats. I like the 885A White/ Black Nappa leather seats but my wife doesn't care for black seats. I also like the 958A Black/ Magmagrey Exclusive Nappa leather seats but again, the wife. I'd consider a black GLE with the 885A interior if she'd be willing to give a go. But we'll most likely go with designo Diamond White with a 204A Espresso Brown/ Magmagrey interior. We have the designo Expresso Brown interior in our GLS and she loves it.
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Joe who is in charge, ha ha! Iím just kidding, Iím in the same boat. Actually Itís a big benefit to have two people with a vested interest looking over a big $ purchase. My wife and I both like complimentary vs contrasting color schemes but she picks up on details that I wouldnít notice until after the purchase. As we talk it over after a review we usually need to go back a 2nd time and actually get more out of that visit.
Does the Expresso Brown look like the pictures or is there a slight reddish look? I need to go back and look at that color again.
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I have a new iPad Pro coming next week. Looks impressive.
My brother-in-law is buying the 12.9" iPad Pro and the Apple Pencil 2 from Best Buy this weekend and wants me to help him set it up Sunday afternoon. I have last years 10.5" iPad Pro and love it. I hope his 12.9" force me into a divorce.
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My brother-in-law is buying the 12.9" iPad Pro and the Apple Pencil 2 from Best Buy this weekend and wants me to help him set it up Sunday afternoon. I have last years 10.5" iPad Pro and love it. I hope his 12.9" force me into a divorce.
Donít look at it, after the 12.9 thereís no going back!
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Does the Expresso Brown look like the pictures or is there a slight reddish look? I need to go back and look at that color again.

It looks great in our GLS so I would expect the shade to be the same. But I understand your question, I feel the pics make it look a little brighter than it looks in real life.
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