Vyper340vb

Thanks!

Vyper340vb

6.11 - That is a WIDE open statement which I am sure could be interpreted in many ways unless it is SPECIFIC to exterior. Is an appearance piece the leather on the dashboard (if it bubbled up)? If the Alcantara roof liner falls down/loosens, is that covered? If the seat stitched were to come apart (not from wear)? Carbon fibre delaminating? ETC.

TexAg91

6.14. Lith ion battery and electric motor are NOT covered.

MBguy013

One could surely debate this as the GLE 450 is not an electric drive vehicle if you're referring to the 48v system.

TexAg91

Yes, but I would argue it is as the vehicle will not function if the 48 V battery dies. Yes technically it’s a mild hybrid, but mild hybrids are electrically assisted vehicles — so they are electrically driven.

True they are not 100% electrically driven but the warranty does not make that distinction.

MBguy013

Hopefully MB will provide clear guidance but from what everyone has experienced, that's not going to happen. So, we'll have to wait until someone has a warranty issue directly dealing with the 48v system.

mikapen

That'll be a long wait.
It could boil down to how well the service department codes the problem and replacement.
It would be nice to get a definitive to answer sooner than later though.

Vyper340vb

Noticed that the LED headlights are not listed as covered=, nor is any LED lighting... hmmm. Also, didn't see any specific callouts for specific sensors and am always curious what other items "fail" and to expect to deal with not covered by the ELW.

GregW / Oregon

But 6.8 says flatly that batteries (of any type) are not covered.

GregW / Oregon

If the lights last the length of the standard warranty you would have a hard time proving a failure was a manufacturing defect.

mikapen

It's my understanding that the Mercedes ELW is an "exclusionary" "warranty" meaning two things. "Exclusionary" means that if it's not excluded, it's covered. Exclusionary warranties generally cover more things, and aren't as open to "interpretation."
"Warranty" means that it's covered by the manufacturer, not an Insurance Company.

Insurance companies don't provide warranties, they provide "breakdown insurance," where you pay the Insurance Company to "share" part of the risk (the definition of Insurance). The amount of risk they share ("coverage") is determined by the package you buy. They are more often written as "inclusionary," meaning if it's not named, it's not covered.

With the M-B "exclusionary warranty," if LED's aren't mentioned, they are covered --- UNLESS they would be grouped as "consumables" or "wear items," like oil, brake fluid or brake pads. I don't see lighting as consumable or a wear item.
Is there another "group" that lighting might be part of that is named in the ELW coverage?

We extended the factory warranty on our 2003 C240 and the left HID ballast went out at 80,000 miles, 6 years in, and it was easily covered. About $800. HID isn't LED, and that was a different "era," but I'd think lighting is still "lighting." They also replaced a brake light bulb, FWIW.

Vyper340vb

The price change for ELW going up after 30 days is not accurate according a dealer I know. It’s a sales tactic

BlueYonder

Anyone have a price list for 2023 models?