New GLE has different Lug bolts
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It is just probably going to be sometime until there is an ample supply with various lengths and lug seats available. Once again, I posted this thread so people would be informed as wheels are usually one of the main things that people change on a car. However nowadays with so many cars coming with the AMG upgraded wheels over standard MB wheels, the trend of changing the wheels has been reduced, but there are still those that want to be different, so I figured this was good info for people that were excited about this new model.
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Well, this thread answers my question of using my Blizzak's that are mounted to their own rims from my 2016 GLE...........
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W166 wheels for Winters
It depends on the wheel specs (do you have the specs?). I still think my 2012 20s will work with a simple drilling out of the lug holes. I am going to test fit this weekend.
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Wheel mounting pin
One other tidbit. There is no wheel mounting pin (AKA wheel hanger) included in the tool kit, though there appears to be a place for it. Ordered one through the dealer - #204 581 0074, $7.25.[/quote]
Update: That is the part number that came up with my VIN, but it is not the correct size - 14 mm instead of 15. I questioned the parts guy when I picked it up, because it looked small, but he was going by the computer. Sure enough, got it home and confirmed it's for the old spec.
Update: That is the part number that came up with my VIN, but it is not the correct size - 14 mm instead of 15. I questioned the parts guy when I picked it up, because it looked small, but he was going by the computer. Sure enough, got it home and confirmed it's for the old spec.
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The multi spoke design is similar to a mesh, like old racing wheels...the balance of weight allows the multi spoke to be lighter than that of a 5 spoke that needs a more robust spoke to counter weight that is missing.
The tires in 21 are lower profile so that could also help the weight too.
The tires in 21 are lower profile so that could also help the weight too.
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The multi spoke design is similar to a mesh, like old racing wheels...the balance of weight allows the multi spoke to be lighter than that of a 5 spoke that needs a more robust spoke to counter weight that is missing.
The tires in 21 are lower profile so that could also help the weight too.
The tires in 21 are lower profile so that could also help the weight too.
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W166 wheels for Winters
Current GLE project is adapting my W166 20x9 wheels to the V167 for Winter tires. All the lug holes will need to be bored out (already have drill bits ordered), rears will need 12mm spacers (in contact with a company for that) and extended lug bolts for the rears (found US-made titanium but pricey). All this is made harder because of the newness of this car and these changes. A challenge! Luckily, I have 4 months or so to finish this project!
Attached is a pic of the wheels I am adapting from my '12, refinished in Lamborghini grey with silver added by a local company. I think they will be very passable for Winters. As I reported in another thread, they are actually heavier than the thirteen-spoke 21x10 RWA's with same width tire (the titanium bolts would help.
Attached is a pic of the wheels I am adapting from my '12, refinished in Lamborghini grey with silver added by a local company. I think they will be very passable for Winters. As I reported in another thread, they are actually heavier than the thirteen-spoke 21x10 RWA's with same width tire (the titanium bolts would help.
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Wheel mounting pin (wheel hanger)
I've arranged for the production of a mounting pin in stainless to the new M15 spec. This company makes a very nice one and has agreed to produce a run of them: https://www.reverselogic.us/lug-guides.html. I will let everyone know when they are available.
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My Fikse wheel from W166 use ball seat and I am adding spacer to them so I made them to size. also planning to add spacer to stock wheel
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Current GLE project is adapting my W166 20x9 wheels to the V167 for Winter tires. All the lug holes will need to be bored out (already have drill bits ordered), rears will need 12mm spacers (in contact with a company for that) and extended lug bolts for the rears (found US-made titanium but pricey). All this is made harder because of the newness of this car and these changes. A challenge! Luckily, I have 4 months or so to finish this project!
Attached is a pic of the wheels I am adapting from my '12, refinished in Lamborghini grey with silver added by a local company. I think they will be very passable for Winters. As I reported in another thread, they are actually heavier than the thirteen-spoke 21x10 RWA's with same width tire (the titanium bolts would help.
Attached is a pic of the wheels I am adapting from my '12, refinished in Lamborghini grey with silver added by a local company. I think they will be very passable for Winters. As I reported in another thread, they are actually heavier than the thirteen-spoke 21x10 RWA's with same width tire (the titanium bolts would help.
Stock W166 lug hole - 0.58" (14.73mm)
Stock V167 lug hole on my 21s - 0.62" (15.75mm)
Drilled with 19/32" - 0.594"
Drilled with 39/64" - 0.609"
Lug bolts have a "bulge" that retains the seat that measures 0.606"
Smoothed hole with die grinder. The lugs now fit fine. One down, nineteen to go!
Update: All done! Once I got going it only took about 10 minutes per wheel. Glad I had a torquey drill. This weekend I will test fit a wheel.
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So, I started drilling out the lug holes using a heavy-duty 1/2" drill, progressing from a 19/32" to a 39/64" bit. My drill press does not have a big enough throat to use it (need about 9 1/2"). The drills seemed to self-center in the existing holes well.
Stock W166 lug hole - 0.58" (14.73mm)
Stock V167 lug hole on my 21s - 0.62" (15.75mm)
Drilled with 19/32" - 0.594"
Drilled with 39/64" - 0.609"
Lug bolts have a "bulge" that retains the seat that measures 0.606"
Smoothed hole with die grinder. The lugs now fit fine. One down, nineteen to go!
Update: All done! Once I got going it only took about 10 minutes per wheel. Glad I had a torquey drill. This weekend I will test fit a wheel.
Stock W166 lug hole - 0.58" (14.73mm)
Stock V167 lug hole on my 21s - 0.62" (15.75mm)
Drilled with 19/32" - 0.594"
Drilled with 39/64" - 0.609"
Lug bolts have a "bulge" that retains the seat that measures 0.606"
Smoothed hole with die grinder. The lugs now fit fine. One down, nineteen to go!
Update: All done! Once I got going it only took about 10 minutes per wheel. Glad I had a torquey drill. This weekend I will test fit a wheel.
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Adapting W166 wheels to V167 for Winters
Current GLE project is adapting my W166 20x9 wheels to the V167 for Winter tires. All the lug holes will need to be bored out (already have drill bits ordered), rears will need 12mm spacers (in contact with a company for that) and extended lug bolts for the rears (found US-made titanium but pricey). All this is made harder because of the newness of this car and these changes. A challenge! Luckily, I have 4 months or so to finish this project!
Attached is a pic of the wheels I am adapting from my '12, refinished in Lamborghini grey with silver added by a local company. I think they will be very passable for Winters. As I reported in another thread, they are actually heavier than the thirteen-spoke 21x10 RWA's with same width tire (the titanium bolts would help.
Attached is a pic of the wheels I am adapting from my '12, refinished in Lamborghini grey with silver added by a local company. I think they will be very passable for Winters. As I reported in another thread, they are actually heavier than the thirteen-spoke 21x10 RWA's with same width tire (the titanium bolts would help.
Stock W166 lug hole - 0.58" (14.73mm)
Stock V167 lug hole on my 21s - 0.62" (15.75mm)
Drilled with 19/32" - 0.594"
Drilled with 39/64" - 0.609"
Lug bolts have a "bulge" that retains the seat that measures 0.606"
Smoothed hole with die grinder. The lugs now fit fine. One down, nineteen to go!
Update: All done! Once I got going it only took about 10 minutes per wheel. Glad I had a torquey drill. This weekend I will test fit a wheel.
Update 6/23: I test fit a wheel to my GLE 350 loaner to verify hole alignment -- fit easily. Next items - 12mm spacers & extended lug bolts for the rear. Hopefully the aftermarket will catch up as more of these get on the road.
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OT: Tools
I can't tell you how much money I have in tools (actually about $50k, but that includes woodworking & other tools). Quality is my first priority. Harbor Freight may be fine for something you will use once, but not satisfying. I still have SnapOn sockets tools I bought in college 48 years ago that are perfect. It just feels good to use a quality tool you know you can trust.
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Thanks, Tery. I just ordered these from http://www.honest-titanium.com/index.html out of China. Totally custom and their capability and quality seem great. They are about 2/3 the price is was quoted from California.