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Old Jul 28, 2019 | 10:41 PM
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I’ve had our GLE350 for a couple of weeks. I couldn’t find any postings on this so thought I’d mention. Took it to dealer because seat kinetics works on drivers side only. Screen shows active for front passenger seat but actually does nothing. Dealer said driver’s seat is only one supposed to have kinetics and software erroneously shows passenger seat. Re-programming will eliminate the passenger display capability.

Others experienced the same??? Thanks
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Old Jul 29, 2019 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Ronc26
I’ve had our GLE350 for a couple of weeks. I couldn’t find any postings on this so thought I’d mention. Took it to dealer because seat kinetics works on drivers side only. Screen shows active for front passenger seat but actually does nothing. Dealer said driver’s seat is only one supposed to have kinetics and software erroneously shows passenger seat. Re-programming will eliminate the passenger display capability.

Others experienced the same??? Thanks
If by seat kinetics, you mean the massage feature in the multi-contour seats, then my vehicle has it for both driver and passenger seats and they both work.
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Old Jul 29, 2019 | 11:50 AM
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Seat kinetics is actually a selectable option under comfort in my car and works on BOTH seats.
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Old Jul 29, 2019 | 01:30 PM
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Mine also works on BOTH seats.
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Old Jul 29, 2019 | 01:34 PM
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Mine works on both sides. Sounds like the dealer doesn't know what they are saying.
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Old Jul 29, 2019 | 02:25 PM
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I have the regular seats, and both driver and passenger have the kinetics capability that works.
However, It would be nice if it stayed active upon startup.
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Old Jul 29, 2019 | 03:48 PM
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Dang. Think I'll call corp MB and ask them about it. This is not the massage feature, I did not put that into the build. But mine definitely shows the driver and passenger seats both working on the screen, but the passenger seat actually does nothing. They told me it was because there was no lumbar adjustment in the passenger seat. Hmmmmm......... Think I'll call.
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Old Jul 29, 2019 | 04:11 PM
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Seat kinetics

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Dang. Think I'll call corp MB and ask them about it. This is not the massage feature, I did not put that into the build. But mine definitely shows the driver and passenger seats both working on the screen, but the passenger seat actually does nothing. They told me it was because there was no lumbar adjustment in the passenger seat. Hmmmmm......... Think I'll call.
That is true. The function requires the P64 option, passenger seat memory. But, you would think the MBUX would reflect that.


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Old Jul 29, 2019 | 04:12 PM
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Just spoke w/ the corporate folks and they say the seat kinetics is not functional on the passenger side unless you have the massage feature also. Disappointing.
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Old Jul 29, 2019 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronc26
Just spoke w/ the corporate folks and they say the seat kinetics is not functional on the passenger side unless you have the massage feature also. Disappointing.
It is functional if you have the memory option, I believe, as in my post above. If you needed massage it wouldn't work in the driver's seat, either.

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Old Jul 29, 2019 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronc26
Just spoke w/ the corporate folks and they say the seat kinetics is not functional on the passenger side unless you have the massage feature also. Disappointing.
We have a Canadian 350 (if that makes any difference) w/ regular seats, both w/ seat memory - kinetics work on both sides - no massage feature.
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Old Jul 29, 2019 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronc26
Just spoke w/ the corporate folks and they say the seat kinetics is not functional on the passenger side unless you have the massage feature also. Disappointing.
No massage seats in UK but kinetics works on both seats.
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Old Jul 29, 2019 | 09:45 PM
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Sounds like seat memory is the difference. I have regular seats w/o massage, but memory on driver’s side only. Disappointed - the kinetics is a better feature than I expected when ordering.
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Old Jul 29, 2019 | 10:11 PM
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......and, just looked - that is a $350 option that includes 4 way lumbar support for passenger seat. Saw somewhere else on here that lumbar support made a difference. Wish I’d known when ordering. Would have included. No mention on website build.
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Old Jul 30, 2019 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Ronc26
......and, just looked - that is a $350 option that includes 4 way lumbar support for passenger seat. Saw somewhere else on here that lumbar support made a difference. Wish I’d known when ordering. Would have included. No mention on website build.
All the leather upholstery options require it.
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Old Jul 30, 2019 | 02:15 PM
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No massage seats in UK but kinetics works on both seats.
Too bad, in the UK the MB website creates a confusion and one can think that the massage system is included in the Premium Plus Package (see description: https://www.mercedes-benz.co.uk/pass...es.module.html )

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Old Jul 30, 2019 | 02:21 PM
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Do the AMG sport seats have the kinetics? I know they can't have massage or ventilation, so I'm assuming they don't have the kinetics, either, but I'm not sure.
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Old Jul 30, 2019 | 03:19 PM
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Do the AMG sport seats have the kinetics? I know they can't have massage or ventilation, so I'm assuming they don't have the kinetics, either, but I'm not sure.
They do - I have them. The reason for no ventilation is the fabric is not conducive to it.
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Old Jan 15, 2020 | 04:39 AM
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Hello guys
I've checked mine for seat kinetics option and I cannot find anything.
I have full electric seats with memory on both drivers and passengers side. They are also heated and cooled. No massage option.
What is actually missing? Is there an option to activate this function via dealer?
I've seen some replied that it's not necessarily to have massage function in order to get kinetic seats. Car is 2018 w213 produced in Germany if that matters. Cheers
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Old Jan 15, 2020 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Cristi Criss
Hello guys
I've checked mine for seat kinetics option and I cannot find anything.
I have full electric seats with memory on both drivers and passengers side. They are also heated and cooled. No massage option.
What is actually missing? Is there an option to activate this function via dealer?
I've seen some replied that it's not necessarily to have massage function in order to get kinetic seats. Car is 2018 w213 produced in Germany if that matters. Cheers
Oops! Wrong forum. This is for the 2020 GLE V167, might have better luck posting on the E-class thread.

https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w213-208/
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I find Mercedes approach to options to be really annoying. Very hard to find cars that are built properly. BMW and Audi make this much simpler with three tiers of bundled options.

Yesterday I was looking at a well equipped GLE580 with an MSRP of $95k only to notice it didn't have the MBUX Technology package.
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Originally Posted by stealth.pilot
I find Mercedes approach to options to be really annoying. Very hard to find cars that are built properly. BMW and Audi make this much simpler with three tiers of bundled options.

Yesterday I was looking at a well equipped GLE580 with an MSRP of $95k only to notice it didn't have the MBUX Technology package.
Totally the opposite in UK, to fully load 450 takes 7 options/ packs, to fully load X5 takes 18
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I find Mercedes approach to options to be really annoying. Very hard to find cars that are built properly. BMW and Audi make this much simpler with three tiers of bundled options.

Yesterday I was looking at a well equipped GLE580 with an MSRP of $95k only to notice it didn't have the MBUX Technology package.
It's an advantage if you're special ordering because you have more flexibility. Win some, lose some.
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Old Jan 15, 2020 | 01:50 PM
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It's an advantage if you're special ordering because you have more flexibility. Win some, lose some.
Agree in principal Greg but makes the X5 more expensive in UK.
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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon
That is true. The function requires the P64 option, passenger seat memory. But, you would think the MBUX would reflect that.


Same here. Seat kinetics do not work on the passenger side, told about the P64 option code by the dealer when asked.
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