Winter Tires - What are you wearing?
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Yeah, you're in the heart of the Polar Vortex! I'm on dry or wet roads 95% of the time in the Winter and studs are noisy and I think hurt traction in those conditions, not to mention they tear up the roads.
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Continental WinterContact
I have not - looks like a good tire, but it doesn't come in the correct sizes for me.
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When you mentioned slightly less load rating I
thought you meant less than stock. I’ve had good luck at Costco they just have very strict rules. Michelin’s are my favorite but for my setup I’ve purchased 20” Vossen hf-3 and are going to run a 255/55/r20 nokian hakkapeliitta 9 studded.
thought you meant less than stock. I’ve had good luck at Costco they just have very strict rules. Michelin’s are my favorite but for my setup I’ve purchased 20” Vossen hf-3 and are going to run a 255/55/r20 nokian hakkapeliitta 9 studded.
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Vossen wheels for Winter
Do you have the AMG body? I think most Vossens and Mandrus I looked at came about et32 for 9”. I am et44 & 57 with my AMG 20’s so questioned the fit even with spacers. I have a nice set of et 32 wheels but was thinking they wouldn’t fit. Curious what you found that will work....maybe I messed up buying another set of wheels. Originally I planned to buy a nicer set of wheels and use my factory ones for Winter.
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Here is the fitment guide for tsw/mandrus
https://fitment.tsw.com/alloy-wheels...z&model=GLE450
Like GregW mentioned I’m going to a 255 so I’ve gone with a 20x8.5 et40 and our hoping to clear the 53’s larger brakes. I still can’t confirm fitment because wheels are a week away and car arrives a few months after. My car will arrive with performance tires so I have to think ahead otherwise I will be going no where in the snow.
Here is the German guide you can check out the various wheel sizes they offer most with super positive offsets. (Be careful with the 19” because they switch the overal diameter of the tires and must have to do some software changes?)
https://www.mercedes-benz.de/passeng...E-SUV-V167.pdf
https://fitment.tsw.com/alloy-wheels...z&model=GLE450
Like GregW mentioned I’m going to a 255 so I’ve gone with a 20x8.5 et40 and our hoping to clear the 53’s larger brakes. I still can’t confirm fitment because wheels are a week away and car arrives a few months after. My car will arrive with performance tires so I have to think ahead otherwise I will be going no where in the snow.
Here is the German guide you can check out the various wheel sizes they offer most with super positive offsets. (Be careful with the 19” because they switch the overal diameter of the tires and must have to do some software changes?)
https://www.mercedes-benz.de/passeng...E-SUV-V167.pdf
Last edited by Henry Stark; Oct 13, 2019 at 10:58 PM.
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Here is the fitment guide for tsw/mandrus
https://fitment.tsw.com/alloy-wheels...z&model=GLE450
Like GregW mentioned I’m going to a 255 so I’ve gone with a 20x8.5 et40 and our hoping to clear the 53’s larger brakes. I still can’t confirm fitment because wheels are a week away and car arrives a few months after. My car will arrive with performance tires so I have to think ahead otherwise I will be going no where in the snow.
https://fitment.tsw.com/alloy-wheels...z&model=GLE450
Like GregW mentioned I’m going to a 255 so I’ve gone with a 20x8.5 et40 and our hoping to clear the 53’s larger brakes. I still can’t confirm fitment because wheels are a week away and car arrives a few months after. My car will arrive with performance tires so I have to think ahead otherwise I will be going no where in the snow.
Here is the German guide you can check out the various wheel sizes they offer most with super positive offsets. (Be careful with the 19” because they switch the overall diameter of the tires and must have to do some software changes?)
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Aftermarket wheels for Winter
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They list conical lug seats - Mercedes uses a radius (ball) seat. You will need special lug bolts that I'm not sure are available yet. Also, the M15x1.25 lug bolt is larger than most others; need to make sure lug holes will accept them. I had to drill out my W166 wheels: https://mbworld.org/forums/gle-class...ml#post7784909.
https://otisincla.com/product-catego...-25-cone-seat/
Hopefully someone comes out with some locks soon
Last edited by Henry Stark; Oct 14, 2019 at 02:47 PM.
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Lug bolts
Any color as long as it’s black
https://otisincla.com/product-catego...-25-cone-seat/
Hopefully someone comes out with some locks soon
https://otisincla.com/product-catego...-25-cone-seat/
Hopefully someone comes out with some locks soon
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Any color as long as it’s black
https://otisincla.com/product-catego...-25-cone-seat/
Hopefully someone comes out with some locks soon
https://otisincla.com/product-catego...-25-cone-seat/
Hopefully someone comes out with some locks soon
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From: Lake Oswego, OR
2020 GLE 450; 2023 BMW M2 Coupe
Lug bolts
Any color as long as it’s black
https://otisincla.com/product-catego...-25-cone-seat/
Hopefully someone comes out with some locks soon
https://otisincla.com/product-catego...-25-cone-seat/
Hopefully someone comes out with some locks soon
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2024 GMC Canyon Denali..... 2018 Audi SQ5
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Is that measuring from behind the rear wheel face, or the whole shank? Stock is 45mm shank and 20.6mm behind the wheel.
Last edited by GregW / Oregon; Oct 14, 2019 at 06:17 PM.
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Measuring the bolts that came from Tire Rack with my new wheels. I will pull a wheel when I get back in early November and check. I’m going to see if Tire Rack has longer bolts. They use a square shoulder bolt with a tapered washer similar to the stock MB bolt but without the bulge.
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Lug bolt stuff
Measuring the bolts that came from Tire Rack with my new wheels. I will pull a wheel when I get back in early November and check. I’m going to see if Tire Rack has longer bolts. They use a square shoulder bolt with a tapered washer similar to the stock MB bolt but without the bulge.
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Lug bolt length
Edit: If my math is right, 15mm embedment/1.25mm thread pitch = 12 turns once the threads bite into the hub.
Last edited by GregW / Oregon; Oct 15, 2019 at 10:32 AM.
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Optional spacers for the bolt or hub?
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I do not have the AMG pkg and mine are for 19" rims. They are exactly the same length of my 2016 winter bolts. Installation scheduled for 11/1 as dealer holds my off season tires.
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I have a 450 with AMG package, does that impact rim setup? Reason I ask is that I have 21" rims and am planning on getting 20" rims from tirerack (and they don't ask if you have AMG exterior).
Also, Ron and Greg do I understand that you aren't sure if the lug bolts that tirerack supplied with winter tire package are correct? I've been holding off ordering a package until someone has reported that all is well with what they are selling...
Also, Ron and Greg do I understand that you aren't sure if the lug bolts that tirerack supplied with winter tire package are correct? I've been holding off ordering a package until someone has reported that all is well with what they are selling...
That looks like the same bolt that they sent me. Do you have the AMG pkg? Have you installed them to see if they fit? The Cone seat is recessed more than the ball seat but these new bolts just look very short to me compared to the factory one. Wheel thickness might make up the difference, I wish I had taken the time to check but my wheels arrived the day before I left town.
Optional spacers for the bolt or hub?
Optional spacers for the bolt or hub?
