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Old Oct 29, 2019 | 08:24 PM
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PANO ROOF GLASS PROTECTION

Ordered a GLE450 with the PANORAMIC ROOF and have a few concerns.
Note: it will have the Accoustic package which I'm told includes solar films built into the windshield and side front windows??
1 - Would like to install a ceramic or other glass coating that will minimize the solar load from above.
2 - Most importantly, have some sort of film protection to minimize or prevent glass from entering vehicle if it breaks. I have had 2 prior instances over the years in which road debris kicked up and caused the pano roof to shatter. Needless to say, the danger and mess if avoidable due to the application of a film or protection coating would be a major plus.

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Old Oct 29, 2019 | 11:17 PM
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How in the heck does road debris cause the roof to shatter? I’m genuinely curious.

If this has happened twice, then don’t get the pano roof. I didn’t option it on our cars due to cost, weight, additional failure points, additional cabin noise, and additional cabin heat in summer. Add shattering to the list of reasons not to option.
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by MercOne1
How in the heck does road debris cause the roof to shatter? I’m genuinely curious.

If this has happened twice, then don’t get the pano roof. I didn’t option it on our cars due to cost, weight, additional failure points, additional cabin noise, and additional cabin heat in summer. Add shattering to the list of reasons not to option.
Apparently OP isn’t the only one that has this issue:

https://www.consumerreports.org/car-...ding-sunroofs/
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by GADGETEMT
Ordered a GLE450 with the PANORAMIC ROOF and have a few concerns.
Note: it will have the Accoustic package which I'm told includes solar films built into the windshield and side front windows??
1 - Would like to install a ceramic or other glass coating that will minimize the solar load from above.
2 - Most importantly, have some sort of film protection to minimize or prevent glass from entering vehicle if it breaks. I have had 2 prior instances over the years in which road debris kicked up and caused the pano roof to shatter. Needless to say, the danger and mess if avoidable due to the application of a film or protection coating would be a major plus.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
If your main concern is UV and protection from shattered glass, I would think a good window film would be the best option. I don't see how ceramic coating protects in case of shattering. Try to get a good non-metallic film, i.e. 3M Crystalline for maximum heat rejection without a very dark color or 3M Color stable for good heat rejection at darker shades.
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 11:35 AM
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Any decent window tint should double both to prevent too much heat from entering the cabin and prevent broken glass from entering should it break.
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 01:34 PM
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Good luck finding a shop to do tinting of a pano roof, no installer wants to have to do the cuts or deal with the dripping
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 03:38 PM
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Good luck finding a shop to do tinting of a pano roof, no installer wants to have to do the cuts or deal with the dripping
I've had several cars with pano roofs tinted. Didn't have any problem finding installers willing to do that. Most charge about $100 per piece of glass so if the solar roof is 2 pieces of glass (on some cars) it'll cost $200 to get it tinted with ceramic tint. (I usually end up using Huper Optik or Formula one Pinnacle tint)
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Old Oct 31, 2019 | 09:44 AM
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My Pano roof is already tinted from the factory.

The pano roof has a cover (from the inside of the car) so that may stop the glass from entering if the pano does shatter.
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Old Oct 31, 2019 | 10:19 AM
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My Pano roof is already tinted from the factory.

The pano roof has a cover (from the inside of the car) so that may stop the glass from entering if the pano does shatter.
The factory "tint" doesn't block much heat. Also closing the shade kind of eliminates the benefit of having a pano roof. Doing an aftermarket tint will block 99.9% UV and a good % of heat (depending on the tint material) and still allow you to get the benefit of having some light coming in to get that more open airey feel.
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Originally Posted by Ninja_Ryan
My Pano roof is already tinted from the factory.

The pano roof has a cover (from the inside of the car) so that may stop the glass from entering if the pano does shatter.
thanks everyone, I’m leaning to using a clear film product that some tint shops sell that is applied directly to windshields similar to clear bra used on paint that is applied from the outside and provides some level of impact protection and IR heat rejection.
my only issue is how well it will hold up to automated car washes (I know, should do a hand wash but it’s simply not realistic in my daily life).
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Old Oct 31, 2019 | 10:25 AM
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thanks everyone, I’m leaning to using a clear film product that some tint shops sell that is applied directly to windshields similar to clear bra used on paint that is applied from the outside and provides some level of impact protection and IR heat rejection.
my only issue is how well it will hold up to automated car washes (I know, should do a hand wash but it’s simply not realistic in my daily life).
Are you worried about how well the tint will hold up? It's on the inside, The car wash won't touch the tint so it has no effect on it.
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Old Oct 31, 2019 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by GADGETEMT
thanks everyone, I’m leaning to using a clear film product that some tint shops sell that is applied directly to windshields similar to clear bra used on paint that is applied from the outside and provides some level of impact protection and IR heat rejection.
my only issue is how well it will hold up to automated car washes (I know, should do a hand wash but it’s simply not realistic in my daily life).
If you apply this on the outside and use automatic car washes you are going to have a bad time
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Old Oct 31, 2019 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by GADGETEMT
thanks everyone, I’m leaning to using a clear film product that some tint shops sell that is applied directly to windshields similar to clear bra used on paint that is applied from the outside and provides some level of impact protection and IR heat rejection.
my only issue is how well it will hold up to automated car washes (I know, should do a hand wash but it’s simply not realistic in my daily life).
As others have said, tint film on the inside is the way to go. An exterior product will really not help for impact breakage. Neither will the inside film, but it will keep the pieces together and intact.
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I thought, maybe incorrectly, that in today's world all glass in an automobile had to be laminated safety glass. Am I wrong?
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Old Oct 31, 2019 | 04:11 PM
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I thought, maybe incorrectly, that in today's world all glass in an automobile had to be laminated safety glass. Am I wrong?
I'm pretty sure you are correct
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The front windshield has to be laminated glass, but most use tempered glass for sun roof.
https://www.consumerreports.org/car-...ding-sunroofs/
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The front windshield has to be laminated glass, but most use tempered glass for sun roof.
https://www.consumerreports.org/car-...ding-sunroofs/
Yes, windshield is always laminated, but side, rear & roof windows are usually tempered. Tempered is more resistant to breakage and will crumble into small pieces when it is broken. The Acoustic Comfort Package side windows are laminated.
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Thanks again for the input, I have the acoustic package but the pano roof is only tinted tempered glass from my understanding and the sliding shade is a mesh. again if I can prevent the breakage that's the ultimate goal for safety, etc. The minimization of thousands of small pieces of broken tempered glass throughout the vehicle is an added bonus. With my luck, the retractable shade wouldn't likely be closed at the exact time on a breakage so I'm planning for the worst and hoping for the best.
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I have a 2020 GLE450 SUV with the Acoustic Package and was very disappointed with the protection the glass offered from the heat. I live in the desert southwest and opted for the Acoustic Package primarily for added heat protection. I had IRX film installed on the inside of the windshield, side windows and sunroof. The heat protection is much better now. There is some conflicting info around about NOT adding anything to the sunroof, cautioning it may contribute to the glass breaking. With such a large sunroof and the heat, I'll take my chances.

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