2020 GLE 350 Transmission Issues?
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The members on this site represent a tiny fraction of MB drivers. In addition, there are members here who have the issue, but it doesn’t bother them and they might not even mention it. Amongst non-MBW.org members—the general public—most of them have no idea if the vehicle is shifting properly or not. What makes the matter worse—or better—is that it is definitely hit or miss. One vehicle rolls off the assembly line operating perfectly, the one behind it might have the problem. Is it 10%, 25%, 50% that have this “virus?” I believe the issue is quite widespread and if and until MB comes up with a fix for it, matters will only become worse. They replaced the transmission and torque converter in my 2,000 mile 2020 S560, and the problem got worse. How much did that cost them? Is there a class action lawyer in the house? ![Big Grin](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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@Streamliner did you try resetting your transmission so it "unlearns" your driving habits? It's worth a try.
Actually I don't know if this generation is user resettable, but it was in W164 and 166, but those were 7 speed.
Actually I don't know if this generation is user resettable, but it was in W164 and 166, but those were 7 speed.
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@Streamliner did you try resetting your transmission so it "unlearns" your driving habits? It's worth a try.
Actually I don't know if this generation is user resettable, but it was in W164 and 166, but those were 7 speed.
Actually I don't know if this generation is user resettable, but it was in W164 and 166, but those were 7 speed.
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I counted all of 10 or 11 reporting varying shift issues in this thread (V167) with one reporting an exhaust sensor replacement curing his issue. That’s a small percentage of active members on this Forum…not much of an indictment that it’s widespread. I would argue (based on few posts) that some of those posting came to the Forum looking for an answer. There are obviously more with the issue but no real indication that it’s widespread.
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In another thread here, I posted that the 2021 GLE450 I ordered had just shown up at the dealer, but with them demanding $5K over MSRP, and the vehicle built without two options I ordered, I decided to to pass on it. Another nail in the coffin was reading about all of these harsh shifting GLE transmissions, an issue I currently have with my 2020 S560, for which MBUSA has offered to buy the car back.
WTF? This isn’t one or two guys complaining about one or two models, it appears to be at least thousands of vehicles throughout the brand. It also appears that MB knows how to fix the problem, but in doing so, they would violate some EPA certification and find themselves in hot water with the US government. So, they are handling it on a case by case basis. Those who scream the loudest will probably get a buy back, while others may just have to suffer with the problem. This is what happens when an automaker pushes the envelope to get the last few INCHES to a gallon of gas so they can meet CAFE standards. Folks with normal, everyday vehicles like a GLE or an S Class sedan end up suffering so MB can offer monster vehicles like the C63S, the G63 and untold AMG 63 somethings. What a travesty. What a crying SHAME!
WTF? This isn’t one or two guys complaining about one or two models, it appears to be at least thousands of vehicles throughout the brand. It also appears that MB knows how to fix the problem, but in doing so, they would violate some EPA certification and find themselves in hot water with the US government. So, they are handling it on a case by case basis. Those who scream the loudest will probably get a buy back, while others may just have to suffer with the problem. This is what happens when an automaker pushes the envelope to get the last few INCHES to a gallon of gas so they can meet CAFE standards. Folks with normal, everyday vehicles like a GLE or an S Class sedan end up suffering so MB can offer monster vehicles like the C63S, the G63 and untold AMG 63 somethings. What a travesty. What a crying SHAME!
5k over MSRP is nuts…I’d tell them no too.
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Never drove the GLE. I’m sure it is probably fine, at least the odds are that it is fine. In addition to our rough shifting S560, we have a 2019 E450 Wagon and a 2019 SL450, both of which shift flawlessly. The issue is that these problems have persisted for years now, even going back to the 7-speed transmissions. The vast majority of vehicles are fine, but way too many seem to develop this harsh shifting issue and in most cases, MB tries to shine the owners on, which is just not right. Anyway, one would hope that a fix is in the works. MAYBE none of the 2022 models will have the issue? One would only hope.
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@mikapen are recalls used for noncompliance with law or regulation? That’s my understanding, maybe I’m wrong.
Crappy transmissions that MB produces aren’t strictly against the law. Although they should be.
Crappy transmissions that MB produces aren’t strictly against the law. Although they should be.
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Crappy transmissions that MB produces aren’t strictly against the law. Although they should be.[/QUOTE]
I suppose that you can back that up with facts? We have maybe 10 members posting about harsh shifting in the GLE out of over 400,000 that are in service and not one reported failure either. Sure there are more & maybe unreported failures but your comment seems irresponsible.
Crappy transmissions that MB produces aren’t strictly against the law. Although they should be.[/QUOTE]
I suppose that you can back that up with facts? We have maybe 10 members posting about harsh shifting in the GLE out of over 400,000 that are in service and not one reported failure either. Sure there are more & maybe unreported failures but your comment seems irresponsible.
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I suppose that you can back that up with facts? We have maybe 10 members posting about harsh shifting in the GLE out of over 400,000 that are in service and not one reported failure either. Sure there are more & maybe unreported failures but your comment seems irresponsible.
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Never thought of that! I will try using economy setting next time I drive my car. Will let you guys know whether it fixes the problem.
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@Streamliner did you try resetting your transmission so it "unlearns" your driving habits? It's worth a try.
Actually I don't know if this generation is user resettable, but it was in W164 and 166, but those were 7 speed.
Actually I don't know if this generation is user resettable, but it was in W164 and 166, but those were 7 speed.
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In most cases the shifting of a transmission is different from the quality of the transmission itself. The shifting is controlled by a “computer like” TCU. There are sophisticated programs that monitor other vehicle sensors to determine shift patterns. As one post mentioned an exhaust sensor caused his shifting issue. While I haven’t experienced the issue with a GLE, I have had a couple of other vehicles with occasional harsh shifts. It’s usually when they skip a gear downshifting. I can get a harsh downshift in our Audi if I use the paddle shifters to downshift by clicking 2-3 down before the first shift occurs. I had a truck that did it occasionally & GM said “working as designed”.
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I had the same problem with my 2018 GLE550E. The down shift between 3rd and 2nd were almost violent at times. The mechanic at the dealership knew how to duplicate it and Mercedes had to admit there was a problem. After multiple attempts at changing the shift points in software, Mercedes replaced the transmission valve body (3 months for the part to come from Germany). That pretty much fixed the problem. The hard down shift has only occurred a couple of times in the last 10,000 miles.
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Did Mercedes Benz ever resolve your GLE Transmission issues?
I have a brand new 2021 GLE 350 and in Comfort or Sport trans modes the RPM's hang in close to the Red Zone for several (too many) seconds after I've removed my foot from the gas pedal. According to my local dealership, the MB GLE350 learns my driving habits and reacts accordingly...?
After 3 service appointments to try and resolve this issue - it still exist. I reached out to MB Corporate just yesterday and have yet to hear back.
I know I'm a bit late to this thread but just found this forum.
Appreciate any thoughts you (or anyone) has on this subject.
I have a brand new 2021 GLE 350 and in Comfort or Sport trans modes the RPM's hang in close to the Red Zone for several (too many) seconds after I've removed my foot from the gas pedal. According to my local dealership, the MB GLE350 learns my driving habits and reacts accordingly...?
After 3 service appointments to try and resolve this issue - it still exist. I reached out to MB Corporate just yesterday and have yet to hear back.
I know I'm a bit late to this thread but just found this forum.
Appreciate any thoughts you (or anyone) has on this subject.
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For the vast majority of MB owners, their vehicles drive fine. Unfortunately, for the group that suffers transmission problems—a group that seems to be quite large—the problems are a real headache and MB does not seem to be all that interested in coming up with a once-and-for-all solution. They would rather buy back thousands of vehicles than solve the problem, or at least it appears that way. Oh well, MB seems to be locked into making everything electric, so why spend any money on fixing transmissions that won’t be used for much longer?
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Did Mercedes Benz ever resolve your GLE Transmission issues?
I have a brand new 2021 GLE 350 and in Comfort or Sport trans modes the RPM's hang in close to the Red Zone for several (too many) seconds after I've removed my foot from the gas pedal. According to my local dealership, the MB GLE350 learns my driving habits and reacts accordingly...?
After 3 service appointments to try and resolve this issue - it still exist. I reached out to MB Corporate just yesterday and have yet to hear back.
I know I'm a bit late to this thread but just found this forum.
Appreciate any thoughts you (or anyone) has on this subject.
I have a brand new 2021 GLE 350 and in Comfort or Sport trans modes the RPM's hang in close to the Red Zone for several (too many) seconds after I've removed my foot from the gas pedal. According to my local dealership, the MB GLE350 learns my driving habits and reacts accordingly...?
After 3 service appointments to try and resolve this issue - it still exist. I reached out to MB Corporate just yesterday and have yet to hear back.
I know I'm a bit late to this thread but just found this forum.
Appreciate any thoughts you (or anyone) has on this subject.
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Did Mercedes Benz ever resolve your GLE Transmission issues?
I have a brand new 2021 GLE 350 and in Comfort or Sport trans modes the RPM's hang in close to the Red Zone for several (too many) seconds after I've removed my foot from the gas pedal. According to my local dealership, the MB GLE350 learns my driving habits and reacts accordingly...?
After 3 service appointments to try and resolve this issue - it still exist. I reached out to MB Corporate just yesterday and have yet to hear back.
I know I'm a bit late to this thread but just found this forum.
Appreciate any thoughts you (or anyone) has on this subject.
I have a brand new 2021 GLE 350 and in Comfort or Sport trans modes the RPM's hang in close to the Red Zone for several (too many) seconds after I've removed my foot from the gas pedal. According to my local dealership, the MB GLE350 learns my driving habits and reacts accordingly...?
After 3 service appointments to try and resolve this issue - it still exist. I reached out to MB Corporate just yesterday and have yet to hear back.
I know I'm a bit late to this thread but just found this forum.
Appreciate any thoughts you (or anyone) has on this subject.
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1k miles in, same problem, strong jerk downshifting from 3rd gear to 2nd gear. Doesn’t matter in Comfort or Sports mode. Has anyone actually got the issue fixed? Or issue went away or just given up complaining.
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Tesla has the most quality issues of any Manufacturer. I just read a news feed that they charged a customer $22,000 for replacement batteries. Good luck finding a Dealer Network if you have an issue…they have minimal support.
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Unfortunately, the issue has not been resolved, and I don't think it will be resolved. I have sold the car one month ago. I can safely say this was the worst purchase I have made in my life.
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Sorry to hear, and not surprising. MB boxes are poor across the board. They should exit the design and manufacture of transmissions and leave it to people who know what they are doing at ZF and Aisin.
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I have a loaner 2020 GLC with a 9G transmission (but not sure if it is the same one as the GLE), and the downshift is very smooth when comparing to the GLE. It also start in second gear from stop in comfort mode (vs 1st gear in GLE).
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